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Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 06:25 PM Apr 2018

About caravans of people trying to get to the United States from another country..

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/29/americas/migrant-caravan-us-border-crossing/index.html

About 110 years ago there were no caravans, just boats. Boats brought people from other countries to the United States from Europe and Asia, and many other places too. Now, there were few laws about entering then, but you did have to read a language. My grandparents read Yiddish. So they entered along with millions of others from all over the world. They came from Russia.

..Those laws were changed after World War I. (1924 to be exact) Quotas, restrictions and so on. But before WWI, very few restrictions. New comers had to stay at Ellis Island for a week in order to prove they were not carrying tuberculosis, but aside from the reading restriction, millions came. So, here I am, a grandson of someone seeking a new life in the U.S.A.

..People still want to come here for the same reason. Opportunity to raise a family in safety and freedom. Times have changed. Back then there were huge neighborhoods of newcomers in cities, called ghettos. People came and after time their children spoke English and were assimilated. It took time as it always does. But among many today, there is no real acceptance of these newcomers. Among many who do not want these people, there is hate, fear, and anger. Who want them? Why should they be allowed? They will cause crime...etc...

The laws have changed, and many in the U.S. do not want "newcomers." , and desire to keep them out. I am not one of those. I say give them the same chance my grandfather and grandmother had. Why not? I turned out ok, as did millions of others and their families.
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About caravans of people trying to get to the United States from another country.. (Original Post) Stuart G Apr 2018 OP
K&R. Here is a video of prople riding on "The Beast" also called "The train of Death" lunamagica Apr 2018 #1
K&R. They are unwanted because they are not white people. Simple as that. secondwind Apr 2018 #2
Yea...I guess it is as simple as that...very very sad... Stuart G Apr 2018 #3
Not white people... sheshe2 Apr 2018 #13
He said it, plain and clear. lunamagica Apr 2018 #5
If the US Chamber of Commerce, the DEA, and the CIA would stop murdering and discrediting... S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #4
While unions might make a difference...there would still be a lot of people Stuart G Apr 2018 #6
Stuart G, S.E. TN Liberal Apr 2018 #8
Give them the same chance that TRUMP'S grandfather had - remember he violated Bavarian law.... George II Apr 2018 #7
DU rec... SidDithers Apr 2018 #9
We have become a nation infested with haters. brer cat Apr 2018 #10
Isn't Comrade Trump The Proud One? Me. Apr 2018 #11
well sheshe2 Apr 2018 #15
K&R betsuni Apr 2018 #12
Mahalo, Struart G.. K&R!! Cha Apr 2018 #14
K&R Jamaal510 Apr 2018 #16
K&R ehrnst Apr 2018 #17
K&R Gothmog Apr 2018 #18
K & R SunSeeker May 2018 #19

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. K&R. They are unwanted because they are not white people. Simple as that.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:41 PM
Apr 2018

Trump would be okay with a trainload of Norwegians.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
3. Yea...I guess it is as simple as that...very very sad...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 07:59 PM
Apr 2018

But, who knows...one of those "not white people" could have a cure for leukemia or advanced stage 4 cancer..Who know?....So many gifts from people who came here..

sheshe2

(83,720 posts)
13. Not white people...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 11:57 PM
Apr 2018

Have already given much in all walks of life. We should welcome them as are great-grandparents once were. Not an easy acceptance, yet many have changed our life for the better.

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
4. If the US Chamber of Commerce, the DEA, and the CIA would stop murdering and discrediting...
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:00 PM
Apr 2018

...Union organizers in Central and South America, those countries could move towards having stable economies.

The problems with the economies south of the American border is the way workers are treated. Treating them as disposable peasants just perpetuates the poverty, the crime, and their desire to get out of their countries at any cost.

The most viable economies, and happiest people, tend to be the Scandinavians and other Europeans who have the highest rates of Unionized workers on the planet.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
6. While unions might make a difference...there would still be a lot of people
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:56 PM
Apr 2018

who want to come to the U.S. for other reasons. (education, freedom, relatives, opportunities, etc.)

S.E. TN Liberal

(508 posts)
8. Stuart G,
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 09:25 PM
Apr 2018

Yep, there would be.

But the pressure would be greatly reduced if their home economies were built around treating workers decently.

The shame is that so much of the problem stems from the fact the US government is determined to keep workers in poverty.

George II

(67,782 posts)
7. Give them the same chance that TRUMP'S grandfather had - remember he violated Bavarian law....
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 08:59 PM
Apr 2018

....by evading his mandatory military service and was deported to the United States. He was a criminal, why doesn't donny admit that?

brer cat

(24,546 posts)
10. We have become a nation infested with haters.
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:48 PM
Apr 2018

trump's ban on immigrants is based on lies and bigotry. We are better than this.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
11. Isn't Comrade Trump The Proud One?
Sun Apr 29, 2018, 10:55 PM
Apr 2018

He's going to keep those humble people out of our country any way he can. Wonder how many guns the little ones and moms are carrying so as to rob us while their rapist escorts plot even more devious crimes. Bet there are even explosives hidden on those buses. Thank God we're saved.

sheshe2

(83,720 posts)
15. well
Mon Apr 30, 2018, 12:02 AM
Apr 2018
Wonder how many guns the little ones and moms are carrying so as to rob us while their rapist escorts plot even more devious crimes.


Sad. Donny and his friends do not need guns to rob the American people or rape and pillage us all. They do not need those things, they have what they need, White Privilege.
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