Water and Aspirin...PLEASE READ!

[malaise]

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A cardiologist determined that heart attacks can be triggered by dehydration.Good Thing To Know. From The Mayo Clinic. How many folks do you know who say they don't want to drink anything before going to bed because they'll have to get up during the night?

Heart Attack and Water - Drinking one glass of water before going to bed avoids stroke or heart attack. Interesting....... Something else I didn't know ... I asked my Doctor why people need to urinate so much at night time

Answer from my Cardiac Doctor: Gravity holds water in the lower part of your body when you are upright (legs swell). When you lie down and the lower body (legs and etc.) seeks level with the kidneys, it is then that the kidneys remove the water because it is easier. I knew you need your minimum water to help flush the toxins out of your body, but this was news to me.

Correct time to drink water... Very Important. From A Cardiac Specialist!

Drinking water at a certain time maximizes its effectiveness on the body:

2 glasses of water after waking up - helps activate internal organs

1 glass of water 30 minutes before a meal - helps digestion

1 glass of water before taking a bath - helps lower blood pressure

1 glass of water before going to bed - avoids stroke or heart attack

I can also add to this... My Physician told me that water at bed time will also help prevent night time leg cramps. Your leg muscles are seeking hydration when they cramp and wake you up with a Charlie Horse.

Mayo Clinic on Aspirin - Dr. Virend Somers is a Cardiologist from the Mayo Clinic who is the lead author of the report in the July 29, 2008 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.

Most heart attacks occur in the day, generally between 6 A.M. and noon. Having one during the night, when the heart should be most at rest, means that something unusual happened. Somers and his colleagues have been working for a decade to show that sleep apnea is to blame.

1. If you take an aspirin or a baby aspirin once a day, take it at night.

The Reason: Aspirin has a 24-hour "half-life"; therefore, if most heart attacks happen in the wee hours of the morning, the Aspirin would be strongest in your system.

2.Aspirin lasts a really long time in your medicine chest – years! (When it gets old, it smells like vinegar).

Please read on.

Something that we can do to help ourselves - nice to know. Bayer is making crystal aspirin to dissolve instantly on the tongue. They work much faster than the tablets.

Why keep Aspirin by your bedside?

It's about Heart Attacks - There are other symptoms of a heart attack, besides the pain on the left arm. One must also be aware of an intense pain on the chin, as well as nausea and lots of sweating; however, these symptoms may also occur less frequently.

Note: There may be NO pain in the chest during a heart attack.

The majority of people (about 60%) who had a heart attack during their sleep did not wake up. However, if it occurs, the chest pain may wake you up from your deep sleep. If that happens, immediately dissolve two aspirins in your mouth and swallow them with a bit of water.

Afterwards: - Call 911. - Phone a neighbor or a family member who lives very close by. Say "Heart Attack!" - Say that you have taken 2 Aspirins. - Take a seat on a chair or sofa near the front door, and wait for their arrival and ........DO NOT LIE DOWN!

A Cardiologist has stated that if each person after receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one life could be saved! I have already shared this information. What about you? Do forward this message. It may save lives!

"Life is a one-time gift" (Let's forward and hope this will help save some!!!)

Add - please check your physician before starting an aspirin a day.

See posts #18 and 72

[hlthe2b]

1. Well, fortunately both my sister and I have "psychogenic polydipsia"--or a fancy term for being

healthy but psychologically desirous of drinking lots of fluids throughout the day. (mostly water)...

But, I know a lot of people struggle to drink enough water so, this is some good advice.

[malaise]

3. I love water

and never go to bed without drinking a glass or two.

I must use that term now

[hlthe2b]

4. LOL... Getting up in the middle of the night disturbs my sleeping pup more than me.

[malaise]

7. LOL

One of my close friends died back in 2004 of liver cancer - she hated water - died 11 days after diagnosis. More recently this 17 year old that I know had kidney stones - she hates water. Since surgery in March she's trying to change - her doctor warned her that water is life. It's odd because her mom loves water.

[True Blue American]

29. My new Doctor

Told me dehydration was causing all the minor problems I had. He said keeping those kidneys working right by hydration was the most important thing.

He was right,after hydrating all my minor symptoms went away. I keep water close by at all times.

He also said Coffee and Tea do not count.

[malaise]

33. Thankfully I love both coffee and water

I'm not really a tea drinker

[True Blue American]

55. So do I

But have to admit I was slightly neglecting the water.

[mercuryblues]

144. Coffee, water and wine.

[malaise]

154. One night during the Flint crisis (OK I know it's still ongoing),

I was drinking the perfect glass of water and I started a thread celebrating water and the way we take clean drinking water for granted. Water is delicious.
I know when I'm in several territories in the Caribbean just by drinking tap water.

[hueymahl]

69. "coffee and tea don't count"

This is basically a myth. The diuretic effects of coffee and tea are negligible vs. the volume of water consumed.

I'm guessing your new doctor has been out of school for a while?

[woodsprite]

43. I had surgery for a kidney stone about a month ago.

I have another (12mm) waiting to be laser blasted. That'll happen some time the beginning of summer.

The urologist told me that my "output" should be a gallon to a gallon and a half a day, which means I should drink more than that. The ER nurse said that typically Sept through Nov is kidney stone season because if someone doesn't drink enough in the warmer months, it takes about that long for a stone to form and start causing problems. My previous ones have always fallen in between Halloween and Thanksgiving. Same for my hubby.

And if anyone ever has one that needs to be laser blasted, the procedure was easy. The stent during recovery was the worst part, but light to medium pain meds kept it tolerable.

[malaise]

60. Wow

Take care and drink water

[OMGWTF]

102. Water Also Comes from Your Food

"Back in 1945 the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Research Council stated that adults should take in about 2.5 liters of water per day (which is roughly the equivalent of eight glasses of water), but it also noted most of that intake level was already satisfied through the consumption of food without the need for the additional drinking of water." -- https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/water-works-2/

[mercuryblues]

141. Fill a pitcher with water

add some sliced lemons or lime in your water. No sugar. Drink. The enzymes from the citrus peel will infuse with the water and help combat kidney stones.

Anyone who drinks energy drinks and has kidney stones need to stop. Now.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

109. For a healthy urinary tract

Long ago, my doctor told me to drink a glass of cranberry juice before bedtime. I used to have all kinds of UTIs with regularity. Since I started drinking the cranberry juice before bed, the incidence of infections has gone way down.

[malaise]

114. Cranberry juice is the most popular drink for males in Jamaica

They swear it's good for their prostate. They even love the 'Cranwater'. Indeed one of the 'Cranwater' distributors is in court challenging the government for attacking the 'sugar-water' contents.

[Neema]

162. I used to hate drinking water. I mean, I enjoyed it when I was really thirsty but otherwise wouldn't

seek it out. But then I got a Soda Stream and now I drink 2-3 liters of water per day. Turns out I just love fizzy water.

[ailsagirl]

14. My problem is that I find it hard to drink water if I'm not thirsty

But then if I'm thirsty, chances are that I am already dehydrated

[Wounded Bear]

74. True for most people...

by the time you "feel" it, it is already too late, so to speak. Drinking sufficient amounts of water have to be developed into a habit. A habit that most of us, myself included, have trouble learning.

[ailsagirl]

82. It is doable, though

If I become more aware of it, and if I leave water vessels everywhere I spend time, I probably would find it easier.

I found that when I downed 16 oz of water first thing in the morning that I had more energy and an improved mood.

So why did I stop?? Don't know

But I'm going to start again, thanks to your thread.

[Wounded Bear]

88. Not my thread...

and I think the OP is a bit overstated, as is shown by posts below. Yes, proper hydration has benefits, but is not really a "cure" for much of anything. If it was, then homeopathic stuff would work.

[malaise]

171. I developed it as a habit

It's a lovely drink

[smirkymonkey]

12. Is that what it's called? I have been that way my whole life and people always thought there

was something wrong with me but doctors could never find any reason that I was constantly thirsty and always drinking (usually water) I always have a large bottle w/ me in my messenger bag (I fill it halfway and freeze it and then fill it up w/ water so it stays cold for a while, then I switch out bottles once it has melted). I drink ice water all day at work and keep a large bottle of ice water by my bed at night. I can never go anywhere with out my bottle or something to drink.

[hlthe2b]

13. Yup... that's me as well... Tell your doc to stop hunting; it is merely a variant of 'normal'

and in most people, quite healthy.

[malaise]

49. Love it very cold

[smirkymonkey]

64. I can't drink it unless it's ice cold.

It almost makes me nauseated if it's tepid.

[forgotmylogin]

65. Metal bottles in the fridge get the water its coldest!

Also when selecting them, get ones with a mouth big enough to drop ice cubes into - that way if you don't have cold water you can add ice and shake with the lid on to chill it quickly.

[Haggis for Breakfast]

110. If you find water difficult to drink

Try adding lemons or limes to it. Quite tasty and it will prevent you from getting scurvy !

[smirkymonkey]

128. I love lemon water!

But it has to be cold.

[mercuryblues]

146. Get a Yeti

I have one and fill it with ice and water. The water is gone before the ice is melted. When I 1st got it I filled it up and let it sit on the counter. It was still ice cold 24 hours later, with a small chunk of ice.

[smirkymonkey]

165. That's so funny, someone in the kitchen at work just told me that today!

She said her ice stays frozen almost all day.

[Raine]

121. I'm the same way

I could drink water all day (if my bladder would let me) always feel I never can get enough if it, I love drinking water.

[MontanaMama]

2. K&R for exposure.

Aspirin is a wonderful drug to have on hand AND you can't put a price on being well hydrated - ever. Great info, especially during these days of stress when many of us go to bed unsettled and upset. Thank you for this, malaise.

[LuckyCharms]

5. Can I use whiskey instead of water?

They are similar...both are liquids.

[kwassa]

10. One bourbon, one scotch, one beer.

[malaise]

19. Heeheehehe

[True Blue American]

32. Alcohol dehydrates

As if you did not know.

[summer_in_TX]

52. Alcohol may also cause cancer. Yikes!

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/did-drinking-give-me-breast-cancer/

I haven't studied the research the author is referring to and I am hoping that there is NOT a link. I'd rather believe that wine has some health benefits. But I fear it may be true. It's at least plausible.

[Sophia4]

115. Thanks.

[appalachiablue]

167. Impt. MoJo article, related to recent major reports on alcohol risks & cancer,

known since the 1970s! ALL liquor, wine and beer because of the ACETALDEHYDE. Reports I read gave very strict guidelines, no more than 2 drinks max per week for women, maybe 3 drinks per week for men.
GRAPES also have high pesticide content. There is organic wine, but is it that much safer, maybe.
Beyond alcohol, toxins in our environment- consumer products, food, water, soil and air, esp. post WWII must be impacting the rise of cancers and chronic diseases.

- Mother Jones, "Did Drinking Give Me Breast Cancer", April 2018, EXCERPT:

Epidemiologists first recognized the connection between cancer and alcohol consumption in the 1970s. Scientists have since found biological explanations for why alcohol is carcinogenic, particularly in breast tissue.
When you take a drink, enzymes in your mouth convert even small amounts of alcohol into high levels of *ACETALDEHYDE, a carcinogen.

People who consume more than three drinks a day are two to three times likelier to contract oral cavity cancer than those who don’t. Alcohol also damages the cells in the mouth, priming the pump for other carcinogens: Studies have found that drinking and smoking together pose a much higher risk of throat, mouth, and esophageal cancer than either does on its own.
Alcohol continues its trail of cellular damage as enzymes from the esophagus to the colon convert it into acetaldehyde. The liver serves as the body’s detox center, but alcohol is toxic to liver cells and can scar the organ tissue, leading over time to cirrhosis, which raises the risk of liver cancer.
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/04/did-drinking-give-me-breast-cancer/

- The Guardian, "Alcohol Can Cause Irreversible Genetic Damage to Stem Cells Says Study," Jan. 2018
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2018/jan/03/alcohol-can-cause-irreversible-genetic-damage-to-stem-cells-says-study, http://www.nature.com/articles/nature25154,

[librechik]

6. thanks, malaise, good info

my HA happened in my left shoulder but it was the LAD Left Anterior Descending) artery which was blocked. A stent saved me from The Widowmaker

[kwassa]

11. I also had the pain in my left shoulder during my heart attack.

Same artery, same solution. One stent.

I thought I had a pinched nerve in my shoulder, at the time.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

36. My friend's mom had a pain under her left armpit.

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Luckily she mentioned it to her Nurse friend while they were on the treadmill at the gym. She ended up with a stent.

[canetoad]

83. I believe that heart attack signs for women

Are quite different to men and can be pains in unusual locations.

[kwassa]

172. the shoulder thing is more common in women ....

but I am a guy.

[mcar]

8. I drink loads of water all day and evening

This is good info. Thanks malaise!

[yallerdawg]

9. Bad advice if you want to go in your sleep...

not yelling and screaming like your passengers.

[malaise]

17. LOL

[SunSeeker]

73. LOL

[dixiegrrrrl]

15. ty for the info...

typing this quickly as I head out the door for ....a Dr. appt!

[DavidDvorkin]

16. Versions of this have been making the rounds for years, but without any basis

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/correct-time-drink-water.shtml

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/water-weal-2/

[malaise]

18. DUer Hortensis just sent me the snopes link and I was about to post it

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It says both good and bad advice.

I'll continue to drink water and take a baby aspirin before bed.

Ah well.
I once saved a life by giving a cook in a restaurant aspirin. She was having a heart attack.
She survived but recently she gave up her job due to poor health. She was in her late 20s back then.

[appalachiablue]

169. Thanks, helpful advice and it can't hurt! Aspirin is a wonderful substance

and water is life don't we know. Never got into sodas much at all thank goodness. Plain old water does the trick.

Also, good DENTAL HYGIENE, both teeth and gums is critical to general health especially as people age.
Poor oral health including plaque and gum disease is linked to heart disease and cancer (See #167).

[DFW]

20. After I just barely won my game of Beat The Reaper

I was told to take my heart medication (including aspirin) at night before going to bed. That was 14 years ago. Mother Nature had scheduled me to check out permanently on April 29, 2004. Because I had read up on cardiac danger symptoms and recognized them enough to seek out a cardiologist, and because the cardiologist I called--purely by chance--happened to know what he was doing, I was sent to a clinic immediately, and found to have two forward arteries 99% blocked. Two stents saved my sorry ass. The only thing the surgeon said to me in English was "just in time." He said he can usually save 70% of the patients sent to him in his clinic, but they have to be alive for him to be able to do that, and he said that maybe as soon as 24 hours later, I might not have been.

My wife suffers from restless legs, and though there is no known cure for that, she has also been told to drink as much water as she can.

The long and short of it is, if you are at all in a position to take preventive measures against potential danger, DO IT. One of our best and dearest friends across the border in Holland was healthy all her life, and avoided regular checkups. When they discovered advanced (somewhere between stage 3 and stage 4) ovarian cancer a year and a half ago, they said they couldn't cure it, but maybe slow it down for a while. Months of chemo and a heavy operation later, she was OK for about six months. It has now broken out again. She is scheduled for another heavy round of chemo, but no one is expressing any optimism this time.

[FailureToCommunicate]

22. Congrats! Your doctor said he can usually save a patient, but they have to be still alive (!)

[Jane Austin]

84. I was about to go into the angiogram room

when there was a commotion concerning whether they needed to send me away or was the room next door opening up soon.

This was in a central Austin hospital and the patient was coming by ambulance from southwest Austin. (Good luck with that.)

The PA attending me said that as long as the patient got to the emergency room (which had already happened in SW Austin) there was a 95% chance he would make it.

He arrived as I was leaving, and he did make it.

The PA also told me that getting ambulances to hospitals was a main reason they had built an express lane on the nearby freeway.

My arteries, btw, were crystal clear!

My aortic valve still had to be replaced. What a miraculous surgery! Painless and quick recovery. Not even available a few decades ago.

Thank you inventors, doctors, nurses, taxpayers and - most of all - Democrats who insisted on passing Medicare!

[malaise]

112. Great post

Funny how those who hate science benefit as well

[malaise]

23. Yep -the key is preventative measures

Glad you made it

[DFW]

28. He said I was the luckiest man in Europe that day.

I have slightly low blood pressure (typically 115/70), so I didn't much notice any tightness, just a few twinges in my shoulder and some slight shortness of breath. Both my dad's parents died of heart attacks before they hit 70, so I was always on the lookout for symptoms. The head surgeon didn't tell me how close I was to the abyss until I was out of immediate danger (wise move, since I was awake during the whole procedure). With two arteries 99% blocked (he played me back the tape of the whole event), I could have checked out permanently at any time, including before I got to the operating table. Indeed, he told me--afterward--there was an ambulance waiting right outside the door in case they had to get me over to another building for an immediate emergency bypass in case the stents weren't sufficient. I was THAT close.

[malaise]

41. Freaking wow

Nothing like paying attention.
A critical care nurse told me that most folks ignore symptoms but there are always clear warnings.

[DFW]

44. I rarely ignored symptoms before that

I NEVER ignored symptoms after that!

The day the local cardiologist said I had a serious problem, it was a Wednesday. He said I needed to get up the cardiac clinic ASAP. I said I was free as of the next Monday. He said, no, not next Monday, not even the next day, but right then and there. Do not pass GO, do not even think about doing anything whatsoever other than getting my ass up there as soon as I could.

I didn't ignore that, either, which is why I'm here to tell the tale. The cardiologist kept his calm, but he made it clear that he was talking to someone who might not be alive in two days, and that someone was me. I got the message. Fortunately, I also had the presence of mind to act on it.

[HeiressofBickworth]

105. Same situation, different outcome

Two years ago, went into suburban hospital for stent, woke up four days later in city hospital with triple bypass. Don't remember much except for the unicorns and black kittens following all the nurses. Those were some freaky drugs!

[gademocrat7]

21. Thanks,malaise

[Chakaconcarne]

24. Well, I guess I'm screwed...

I never drink water.... I know I should....but drinking it is a nuisance, managing it is a nuisance and peeing often is a nuisance...

I usually can't be bothered.

[DFW]

31. As one who is alive for that and no other reason

Suppress the nuisance and DRINK THE WATER.

I promise you, it beats the alternative. WC Fields wasn't always right, especially about water.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

40. This is so true:

[OnDoutside]

100. Keep a water bottle with you at all times. It will become a habit after a while. I try to get a

couple of pints of water in, first thing in the morning, top up at various points during the day, and keep a bottle on my bedside locker in case i wake up during the night.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

106. The 8 glasses/day myth arose from counting H2O from ALL sources in food. . . . nt

[Blue_true]

147. Bad idea.

If you notice that you have dry mouth, you are very thirsty, take a drink of water. If you have dry mouth at night and you have a headache, even a light one, you could be nearing a stroke, get up and drink some water before going back to bed.

My dad had repeated strokes before he became incapacitated near the end of his life. A stroke is a big deal, with every one you have (if the first one don't kill you), you lose body function and mental capabilities.

I hope that you were joking about not drinking water. If you were not, please change your habits pronto.

[FakeNoose]

25. This is some great info on the health benefits of drinking water

Thanks Malaise! I'm probably one of those people who are almost dehydrated, most of the time. I know I don't drink enough water and I need to change my sorry ways. My heart's good and I don't have to worry about high blood pressure, but I still need to drink more water. As for aspirin, I've always got some on hand in case of headaches but I don't take it as a daily thing.

[malaise]

39. I take a baby aspirin daily

Drink more water - it's a beautiful drink

[monmouth4]

101. I used to love it with scotch. Don't do that anymore either...sigh.. n/t

[malaise]

107. In my youthful days

I loved Scotch - and water.

[monmouth4]

111. Ahhh, fond memories of Dewars White Label. n/t

[DFW]

47. Arterial clogging is independent from blood pressure

I had 99% blockage in two arteries while my BP stayed steady at 115/70. In fact, the low blood pressure made it difficult for me to detect how serious my symptoms were, as I didn't feel the tightness that people with higher BP feel when their arteries are clogged.

[procon]

26. Good info, thanks! nt

[Eliot Rosewater]

27. ARE diet colas considered WATER in this situation?

[Ligyron]

34. I think they may have some salt in them?

[Eliot Rosewater]

35. Yep...darn

[sarge43]

45. They're also one of the leading causes of tooth decay.

They immediately become acidic in the mouth and do a number on the fangs. Drink some water right after the cola; that will help.

[Blue_true]

148. For me, soda does not have the same effect as water.

For example, when I still drank soda, drinking part of a glass never quenched me thirst like water did.

[wonkwest]

30. Excellent advice, but that middle of the night piddling . . . Also, a few additional thoughts.

I'm jussst about to approach middle age (grappling and clutching onto my 30s yet with much gusto), and the past two or three years have involved one or two trips to the bathroom almost nightly. Granted, I drink tons of water. Two glasses upon waking, and I keep liter bottles on my home and work desks and one in my car. So, I go through 6-8 liters on an average day.

Two glasses upon waking is very much a thing. If you're slow to get moving in the morning, immediately drink two glasses upon leaving bed. Within 15 minutes or so, you'll be wide awake. The dehydration from sleep greatly contributes to morning sluggishness. When I moved my gym/running routine to 6:30a five years ago, it was so, so hard to wake up adequately before having to lift weights. But once I started downing water first thing, I found I was energetic and fully conscious by the time I got to the gym.

There is a downside to guzzling however. I drink about half my daily water in the morning before lunch. If I have coffee at lunch, well . . . Let's just say when my afternoon involves bathroom trips every 15 minutes, my boss always says, "You had coffee, didn't you."

Water also makes your skin look better. There are a variety of reasons, but it's good against wrinkles, makes pores less prominent, boosts collagen, and combats blemishes.

It's also good for teeth. If you sip all day, you're washing away any residual particles and sugars from food, reduces the acidity caused by cavity-causing bacteria (protecting your enamel), provides fluoride, and promotes saliva production (your body's main defense against cavities).

So always keep water within reach and get in the habit of drinking it throughout the day!

Just beware the coffee pees. They're the worst. Especially if you're running errands. The other day, I ended up on the Grand Tour of Store Bathrooms.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

42. K & R. Thanks for sharing - good advice on the first-thing morning water.

At 70-YO, I know where store restrooms are much better than any product isles.

...... ......

[jberryhill]

81. half a glass

[left-of-center2012]

86. half a glass ?

The O.P. repeatedly uses the term "1 glass of water".

I asked "How many ounces in a glass of water",
and your response is "half a glass".

[jberryhill]

87. She's from Jamaica. Their glasses are metric

So you should use half a glass here.

[left-of-center2012]

90. How many ounces in that half a glass?

[jberryhill]

95. All of them

They'll all fit inside a larger glass.

[left-of-center2012]

96. Congratulations !

You've made my ignore list.

[jberryhill]

97. Maybe you should just have a glass of water

[Kali]

131. ...

oh shit, I lost some metric ounces!

[Dr. Strange]

150. I can't wait until you and left-of-center2012 take this comedy act on the road.

I'm getting my tickets in advance!

[pwb]

38. Thank you. I have been taking my aspirin in the morning.

Will switch it to the night. I need to drink more water in the morning too. I was told other beverages are no substitute for just plain water? Not sure about things like Snapple and coffee? Thanks again.

[xxqqqzme]

46. Thanks for the info.

It enhances the information my Dr passed along. Head trauma/brain injury leaves me susceptable to strokes so low dose aspirin daily for me. I'll move taking it to the evening rather than the AM. Keep my portable water bottles filled in the frig plus one in the freezer for the days at aquatics class.

[True Blue American]

57. Funny how exercising

In the pool makes you thirsty.

[malaise]

118. Take care

[Oppaloopa]

48. Thank you I have Lipedema this may help

[malaise]

71. First time I ever saw that word

Had to look it up

[woodsprite]

50. Migraines can also be a sign of dehydration.

Both my husband and daughter try that treatment first when they get one, and have had success.

[Blue_true]

149. Exactly.

I get light headaches when I am dehydrated. Because of my vascular system (smallish, delicate veins everywhere in my body) the headaches serve as a warning sign. My dad had frequent headaches, ignored them and ended up suffering repeated debilitating strokes over a number of years before his death.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

51. I have always been a very thirsty person and drink

more water than most people around me. I also pee more frequently. I'm also healthier than most people my age.

While David Dvorkin was absolutely correct to post the links the the fallacies in the OP, those fallacies don't negate the fact that many people don't consume enough water.

I recall reading some years ago that for most people, natural thirst is not sufficient to insure we drink enough water, and perhaps that's why the social inclination to offer visitors a drink has arisen.

So drink enough water! There's nothing magical about the time of day you need to drink it, just consume plenty of water.

[logosoco]

53. Words of wisdom, especially good as we enter the warm/hot season.

I was not a big water drinker until I passed out at a friends house and could not fully come to and she took me to the ER (set me back $600!). They said the best they could figure was I was dehydrated. Since then (and that's been about 10 years ago), I always have a cup of water with me. A cup of water and my tea, I tell people I have a drinking problem!

I think it has set a good example for my grandsons, now I just need to get my husband on board with the water!

And I need to get into the aspirin habit!

[TexasBushwhacker]

124. Yup. I got dehydrated while moving in August

I started having chest pains and drove myself to the ER (stupid, I know). I was dehydrated and my potassium was 10% of what it should have been. It took 24 hours on an IV to get back to normal.

[KY_EnviroGuy]

54. A trick for drinking more water...

I drink coffee all day long, so I try to add additional water to make up for the pee runs - since caffeine tends to dehydrate.

In order to avoid soft drinks, years ago I started buying carbonated water (Kroger brand Seltzer water @ $2.50/12-pack) and I add flavor drops just to give it a little aroma. It goes really well with food and is very refreshing.

Before retirement, when I did field service trips to the high desert in Wyoming, dehydration was a very serious challenge, especially since my Southern chemistry was not adapted to it (humidity can get under 10% at times). An old timer there said the first sign of dehydration is dry lips. Once after doing some hiking in 90+ degree weather, I became very ill from dehydration because I don't fully realize I was losing moisture from sweat like in the south. In Wyoming's climate, the sweat just evaporates right away!

Thanks for the great thread, Malaise - all very good advise!.....

[True Blue American]

56. Another good suggestion.

[Qutzupalotl]

63. If your tap water is good, try a SodaStream to carbonate it.

It will enhance any flavors in the water, so maybe filter it with a Brita if needed. Now I never drink sodas, just water.

[StarryNite]

92. SodaStream!

I love mine! You're right, the fizz water does replace the urge for soda.

[Tarc]

59. Yea, when I want medical advice, I trust an un-cited post on the DU

Seriously, shove off with this nonsense.

[GulfCoast66]

127. Yeah, when I want an unnecessarily snarky rude comment about a well intentioned post,

I don’t go to DU. Other sites offer that.

Seriously, shove off on this uncalled for rudeness.

[Tarc]

140. Medical advice from random-Joe-on-the-couch on the internet gets people killed

Sorry if you're the gullible type that east this stuff up. Good luck.

[GulfCoast66]

142. Malaise was posting well intentioned information

Not necessarily accurate, but well intentioned.

Were you truly concerned about the given advice causing harm, you would have politely responded stating your concerns and recommending caution in taking such advice. As several other members have done.

You chose a different course...snark and rudeness.

We are all adults here and can decide for ourselves whether advice is good or bad. Most of us can communicate without dragging the level of discourse on DU into the gutter.

Have a nice day.

[Tarc]

166. It's nice that you think that

Run along now.

[GulfCoast66]

168. I guess snark is your default setting.

Have a good day.

[womanofthehills]

61. Thanks for the reminder - I'm going to get some water right now

[flying_wahini]

62. Retired nurse here and just wanna add a couple of points.

If you feel your thirst is still not resolved after drinking what should be enough water you may want to have your blood sugar checked; it could be be a symptom of diabetes.

Also, women and men have very different symptoms of a heart attack.
A cardiologist I worked with always said the first and MOST DEADLY symptom is DENIAL.
People often second guess themselves into the grave.
Men ususally have the substernal mid chest pain radiating to a shoulder. Women frequently complain of severe indigestion, chest discomfort, arm pain and/or jaw and neck pain. Both sexes will have a poor color and pale sweaty "clammy" skin. Of course any time you have unrelenting chest pain see a doctor immediately! Get to an emergency room NOW. Just my 2 cents.

[malaise]

76. Thanks

Sound advice

[WheelWalker]

66. Great post. Thank you.

[BobTheSubgenius]

67. Like most people, I need to drink more water overall.

I do, however have some of those bases covered, so that's something..

[pansypoo53219]

68. i drink a galss of milk w/ a 'midnight' snack before bed. water w/ make you pee.

milk less so. i have gotten even worse as an extreme night owl. i need to go before 6 am. i TRY. alas....

[zentrum]

70. Tanks Malaise.

[rzemanfl]

72. This message is wrong.

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/misleading-aspirin-email/

[eleny]

75. You're making me thirsty!

[ochem]

77. Use the almost clear rule

Your urine should always be almost clear.

[calimary]

135. Welcome to DU, ochem!

I've heard that advice, too. The more the yellow, the more impurities were in there and the bigger the job your kidneys just handled.

Drinking enough water is always good advice, regardless. Being well-hydrated is important, and it's good for your skin.

[Gore1FL]

78. Unfortunately nothing is quite that easy. This is an urban myth.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/water-weal-2/

[democratisphere]

79. I like my water with Absolute Vodka and a twist.

Good article. Bookmarked for further reference.

[bettyellen]

80. Just got news a friend passed from a heart attack.

Thank you Malaise.

[Vinca]

85. Thanks for posting. I didn't know any of it and it's important info.

[VOX]

89. "Misleading Health Advice Email - Mayo Clinic on Aspirin and Heart Attacks"

http://www.hoax-slayer.com/mayo-clinic-aspirin-advice.shtml
Brief Analysis
While there are elements of truth in the message, the advice did not come from the Mayo Clinic or from Dr Virend Somers. The Mayo Clinic has warned that some of the information in the message is inaccurate and potentially harmful and recommends that people always consult a doctor before commencing heart related aspirin therapy.

Detailed Analysis
This message, which has circulated in various forms since at least 2010, claims to contain advice from prestigious medical institution, the Mayo Clinic about heart attacks and the use of aspirin to prevent them. The message suggests that the information is from a report by Mayo Clinic cardiologist, Dr. Virend Somers.

However the information is not from the Mayo Clinic. And, while Dr Virend Somers is indeed a Mayo Clinic Cardiovascular Diseases specialist, he did not write or in any way endorse the information contained in the above email forward. In February 2010, Lee Aase, one of the leaders of the Mayo Clinic's Social Media Center, posted the following disclaimer on the clinic's news blog:

We have been informed of a recently circulated email regarding the use of aspirin, which included mention of Dr. Virend Somers and of Mayo Clinic. Neither Dr. Somers nor Mayo Clinic contributed to this email, which contains some information that is inaccurate and potentially harmful. We recommend that you speak with your physician if you have specific questions.

In a further comment on the same page, Lee Aase adds :

While the first two paragraphs are for the most part correct the rest of the email should be discussed with your physician
In general, we do not recommend obtaining advice on medical treatment from chain mailings, especially when they are of uncertain origin.

Aspirin is indeed appropriate for a heart attack but as with any medication, treatment needs to be individualized for each patient. There is no evidence to support potentially harmful recommendations such as not to lie down if you are having a heart attack. We cannot address other specific aspects of the emails since there have been many variations in their content. We recommend you discuss this with your physician.

And an article about Aspirin therapy published on the Mayo Clinic website explains:

Daily aspirin therapy may lower your risk of heart attack, but daily aspirin therapy isn't for everyone. Is it right for you?

You should a daily aspirin only if your doctor advises you to do so. If you have had a heart attack or stroke, your doctor will likely recommend you take a daily aspirin unless you have a serious allergy or history of bleeding. If you have a high risk of having a first heart attack, your doctor might recommend aspirin after weighing the risks and benefits. You shouldn't start daily aspirin therapy on your own.

Although taking an occasional aspirin or two is safe for most adults to use for headaches, body aches or fever, daily use of aspirin can have serious side effects, including internal bleeding.

Thus, although aspirin may be helpful for preventing heart attacks, the information in the message is misleading and should not be considered as accurate health advice. To reiterate, health experts maintain that it important that people seek the advice of their doctor before beginning to take aspirin for heart attack prevention or before using any other heart attack prevention techniques that they may have read in an email forward.

It is interesting to note that the claim "A Cardiologist has stated that if each person, after receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people, probably one life could be saved" is included, almost verbatim, in another bogus health advice message about heart attacks and "cough CPR".

[sl8]

138. Thanks for your post. n/t

[rzemanfl]

152. A friend sent me the chain email in March asking if it was legitimate.

I found Mayo's disavowal and sent it to her. I am appalled that this thread is at the top of the Greatest Page.

[SidDithers]

158. Thank you...

the original post read like something your mom would send you on Facebook.

Unfortunately, many DUers are woefully ignorant of science, and willfully believe any wild-ass internet medical claims.

I change up my sig fairly regularly. This dumb thread inspired me to got with NdGT.

Sid

[VOX]

163. Indeed. The diagnostic "tell" is in the request to further expand the email's chain.

Thus: “A Cardiologist has stated that if each person after receiving this e-mail, sends it to 10 people...”

The upper-case Cardiologist and the mysterious Nigerian prince (who will make you rich, if only) apparently share some virtual DNA.

Cheers, Sid. Always good to hear from you.

[spanone]

91. K&R...

[OxQQme]

93. Warm/room temp or cold?

Somewhere back in my younger years I heard or read that room temp water is more beneficial than cold as it's more
easily assimilated into the body systems.

In light of this thread i googled --> https://www.google.com/search?q=drink+warm+water+or+cold+water&oq=drink+warm+water+or+cold&aqs=chrome.0.0j69i57j0l4.9918j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

snip>
"Warm water helps break down food, aids constipation, and even helps you lose weight while improving your blood circulation. Room temperature can even help stop pains like a headache, which makes it a better alternative than Tylenol. ... So, it's not that cold water is bad for you or better for you."

"When cold water hits the stomach, the body is forced to use energy in order to warm up that liquid inside your body to match that of the body's natural temperature. ... Instead of working to extract all the foods nutrients, your digestive system is instead working on regulating the temperature of the cold drink."<

I'll continue drinking cold water on hot days.
Room temp other times.
Thanks for the thread.

[malaise]

94. Thanks for this

I love cold water but I can drink it at room temperature. I never drink hot water without something in it - mint, lime, rosemary and mint, or of course my favorite beverage - coffee.

[Duppers]

137. Good advice and, btw, this is the norm in China.

I know only of people in Shanghai and Beijing, who consumed bottled water which is never refrigerated. Our friend in Shanghai always warmed his morning water a bit, especially in the winter before he had tea. He gave us the same advice that you gave here and I've found it much easier to gulp very slightly warmed water in the mornings before or after having my hot tea - especially in winter.

And folks know that you're not served ice water in the UK. We lived there 3yrs and I don't remember being served ice water ever....but did have ice in cola beverages a few times.

However, I love cool drinks in the summer months, just not upon rising in the mornings.


Thanks for posting, OxQQme.

[TheDebbieDee]

98. SNOPES 1...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/bedside-companion/

[TheDebbieDee]

99. SNOPES 2...

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/water-weal-2/

[grantcart]

134. OK EVERYONE TAKE A BREAK AND LOOK AT THIS, LOLOLOLOL

I hit this and then scrolled down at the bottom to see what else was running at snopes

and about the third box down I found this:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-ryan-osteen-house-chaplain/

harharhar

[jberryhill]

139. We have a winner

[rzemanfl]

153. Oh FFS. n/t

[heather blossom]

103. Thanks

Great info.

[elocs]

104. What Counts as Water?

[link:https://www.webmd.com/parenting/features/healthy-beverages#1|

"Fruits are an excellent source for water. Watermelon is 90% water, so it ranks highest on the list. Oranges, grapefruit, and melons like cantaloupe and honeydew are also strong contenders.

There are plenty of hidden sources of water in your diet, says White. If you want to tap into these foods, reach for oatmeal, yogurt, soup, and smoothies.

Besides guzzling water, milk is a top choice to refuel. Sodas, even diet ones, get a bad rap for lacking nutritional value, but they can still be hydrating. Juices and sports drinks are also hydrating -- you can lower the sugar content by diluting them with water.

Coffee and tea also count in your tally. Many used to believe that they were dehydrating, but that myth has been debunked. The diuretic effect does not offset hydration."

[malaise]

120. Love fruit - I've never been a milk fan

Like ice-cream and yogurt but from childhood I never wanted a glass of milk like some of my siblings.
I like oatmeal in granola or home made cookies
Nice post

[elocs]

159. I grew up and still live in Wisconsin. What can I say? n/t

[malaise]

160. I love your cheese

[Haggis for Breakfast]

108. There was a time when we would have seen this on telly as a PSA

Thank you for this. You have done a great public service to all of us and all of the people that we forward this to will appreciate the wisdom.

[tiredtoo]

113. copied and pasted to my facebook page. EOM

[alarimer]

145. And this is how bullshit gets spread

Numerous folks have pointed out that there is no basis in fact for this "advice", yet people are uncritically spreading this to all their non-critical thinking friends.

Facebook has a "fake news" problem but it is primarily caused by its users and not by Russian bots.

[malaise]

156. Water is good for all of us and aspirin is good for most of us

I edited the OP and added two posts with Snopes links. Mayo is not linked to the email but both water and aspirin are good for most of us. That said do not take medication with guidance from a physician.

Take it from me - unless you can't take aspirin (and there are folks who are allergic), water and aspirin have way less side effects than most of the medications advertised on TV. In fact I've never heard of a side effect of water unless peeing is an issue.

[BadGimp]

116. Thank you for the post!

I believe everything I read jk... it makes sense and is true for me

[CaptainTruth]

117. Thank you for the info! nt

[Raine]

119. Good information

I love water so drinking more shouldn't be a problem .... THANKS for posting this!

[kentuck]

122. Bookmarked!

Thanks!

[TheBlackAdder]

123. Thank you very much, Malaise, for posting this. It's very informative and it makes a lot of sense

[milestogo]

125. Drinking a glass of water before going to bed makes you have to get up to pee during the night.

[SidDithers]

126. Source?...

If you're going to give medical advice, please provide the link that's giving the information.

Sid

[jberryhill]

129. Glaciers, rain, or aquifers

[SidDithers]

130. Nice...nt

Sid

[malaise]

136. DUzy

[SidDithers]

157. So, no link to the original source material?...nt

Sid

[C Moon]

132. I love water, too. I actually don't mind getting up in the middle of the night to use the bathroom.

I like climbing back into bed, and drifting back to sleep knowing you have another few more hours of sleep ahead.

[rzemanfl]

170. The enjoyment is inversely proportional to the size of your prostate. Trust me. n/t

[oasis]

133. Thanks. Kicked and Recommended

[alarimer]

143. Evidence?

How about posting some links to actual peer-reviewed science before scare-mongering like this.

It sounds like some bullshit from Facebook. We should know now not to believe anything from Facebook.

[rzemanfl]

151. The Mayo Clinic disavowed this chain email EIGHT YEARS AGO.

See my post above, mentioned in the edit to the OP.

[JayhawkSD]

155. You need a new cardiologist.

If he actually believes that, "When you lie down and the lower body (legs and etc.) seeks level with the kidneys, it is then that the kidneys remove the water because it is easier."

[niyad]

161. to a lesser degree, headaches can also be caused by dehyration, as can many other

minor aches and pains.

[IronLionZion]

164. I'm sure your intentions are good, but you shouldn't post email chains

Find some legit medical articles from reputable sources and post that instead.

If you want to reference Mayo clinic, find it on their site and link to it.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-attack/symptoms-causes/syc-20373106