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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToo Bad We Can't Put In An International Army So Large We Eliminate All The Taliban.
As we can see the Taliban and ISIS are a lethal poison no good to anyone. They are as bad as the Kmer Rouge. We are so stuck in Afghanistan right now. If we leave it will become a bastion for international terrorism just like before. The Taliban and ISIS have used religion as a shield yet they bring nothing but murderous religious practices that benefit no one whatsoever.
After the recent bombing in Kabul it is obvious that there is no way to negotiate with them. They only want to subjugate and torture and kill people in the name of their twisted beliefs in Islam.
Of course I realize that such a thing is impossible.
maveric
(16,445 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Or how the UN works.
maveric
(16,445 posts)Kinda?
Korea was a US war with token UN support as a fig leaf. All the major combat units were US.
maveric
(16,445 posts)dembotoz
(16,804 posts)evangelicals
it might not be pretty
oberliner
(58,724 posts)dembotoz
(16,804 posts)would assume a similar soft spot would also appear in other cultures.
as much as i detest westboro baptist, i would be concerned shall we say if some other country with a dominant religion were to fly over westboro and bomb the hell out of them.
we need to be careful and understand that the taliban are not as isolated as we would hope and could have friends
Voltaire2
(13,033 posts)achieve your goal?
Oneironaut
(5,495 posts)They cant be eradicated with only force. What you essentially have is separate warlord-led tribes with wavering loyalty. You would need to kill everyone in the entire country, which would cause neighboring countries to send more fighters, etc.
They need a strong central government, but theyre unable to form one. Theyre too corrupt. Its too fractured there. They have no infrastructure to keep people on modern footing. We cant build it for them - they need to be able to build and sustain it, and it will take decades.
I dont think this fight is winnable. The zealots there need to be contained and slowly brought into the 21st century.
MosheFeingold
(3,051 posts)It's not like they have a tattoo or something. They put down their rifle (they don't even have a uniform to take off) and go back to the house, they're not Taliban.
Then they pick up the rifle, and they are Taliban.
This is why I often question "civilian death" figures. When everyone is a combatant at some time, who is a civilian?
You'd pretty much have to go full Roman Empire, kill all males over age 12 and about half the women.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)The Taliban are the military wing of the Pashtun community, of which there are about 14 million in southeast Afghanistan and another 30 million in adjacent Pakistan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtuns
Note that if you kill one, his relatives are obligated to hill one of yours in a blood feud.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pashtunwali
TheMastersNemesis
(10,602 posts)we have to leave the country at some point. And we know what happened to the people there when the Taliban ran the country before 9-11. I am sure that much of the population DOES NOT want them in power again. Women beaten, killed, et al. Children mired in madrassas. People killed for violating the most inconsequential Islamic law. Frequent public executions. Misery and death on just about every corner every day.
They have nothing to offer anyone. If we leave as we must eventually they w9ll run amok. It is a mess. And I really doubt the majority of the population is that radical. They just want to live in peace.
I do not want to see another American die in that mess. But I fear what will happen when we leave and if we will be forced to go back.
FarCenter
(19,429 posts)That would give the predominantly Uzbek, Hazara, and Tajik north the ability to resist the Pashtuns.