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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: Wypipo Offended by "Wypipo"
Wait. Never mind. Of course they are. How silly of me! They think it's a derogatory term. Without reading it aloud, they don't even understand it. They believe their inborn privilege should prohibit such words. Why would anyone be surprised that they don't like that one?
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)MineralMan
(146,281 posts)The T-shirts are already being screen-printed.
CincyDem
(6,346 posts)central scrutinizer
(11,639 posts)TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)Whazzit?
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)I'm going to get some coffee now.... Clearly I need it lol
MineralMan
(146,281 posts)TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)Let my basic comprehension skills kick in first lol
Devil Child
(2,728 posts)Attempting to rationalize wypipo by noting institutional racism, white fragility, white privilege, etc.. does not change the fact it is a racial slur.
ismnotwasm
(41,971 posts)Devil Child
(2,728 posts)My white tears are flowing into my latte. It's cool tho, I'm going to an animal rights rally later so i will get over it.
ismnotwasm
(41,971 posts)Kinda neatAnimal rights rally? Wow.
Well played!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)I'm an old lady "wypipo," and I think it's funny, sardonic, and very clever. "Wypipo" who are offended by the term are hypersensitive snowflakes, probably the same cretins who so freely "dish it out" with sadistic enjoyment.
(It's also a much nicer term than "cracker." That one always made me picture Saltines, which I considered blandly yucky.)
ismnotwasm
(41,971 posts)Its too much work, challenges too many comfortable preconceptions, interrupts the Im not a racist but narratives as well as the I dont see color justifications. In others words, Wypipo is a perfect descriptor of toxic whiteness, and since we arent used to being challenged on this level, many of us go into immediate reverse racism mode.
All of the defense mechanisms white people use to justify Whiteness as a dominant cultural standard are at best, irritating as fuck, and at worst, lead to the deaths of people with skin that is not white.
silverweb
(16,402 posts)A great many white people seem to believe that if they just deny any ingrained prejudices in their thinking, the problem of institutional racism either doesn't really exist or will simply go away.
Thinking about such things is hard, and requires a willingness and ability to be self-critical. Not a lot of people who don't consider it their problem are willing to do that work.
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)not true. White people never suffered anything near the pain and degradation that POC have. Slurs against black people have a very ugly legacy of oppression and abuse.
Its literally ignorant to equate the two things. If white people as a race were subject to systemic oppression and abuse they might have an argument. Being made uncomfortable is not any where near what POC face - and thats kind of the point.
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bettyellen
(47,209 posts)is bigotry. And since wypipo is designed to describe a subset of people who ignore racism - same as those suffering fromfirst world problems - even that is quite debateable.
But we see this tactic from conservatives ALL the damn time- you cant describe racism without being accused of bigotry. I hate to see liberals fam for that shit. But I do, all the damn time.
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betsuni
(25,437 posts)I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man? "Hey, Wypipo!" Uh, ruined my day. ... Bringing me back to owning land and people. What a drag.
Maeve
(42,279 posts)WE are the ones who get to make the decisions, WE are the arbiters of what is and isn't acceptable, whether it is language or forms of protest; WE define the norms that everyone else gets to abide by. And if you disagree with us, WE get to use any disagreement on ANY topic to prove that YOUR opinion is not worthy to be listened to, any time, any topic. Because WE are still the ones in charge and YOUR opinion is still only second-rate, at best, and we know better. Or as someone once noted "It's GOOD to be the king!"
/sarcasm
Sigh. Sometimes I wonder if civil society is even possible...
B2G
(9,766 posts)It's hard to tell.
Maeve
(42,279 posts)'WE' are the ones who decide that it is offensive if people protest outside what 'WE' think is the proper venue and 'WE' make the rules because 'WE' have always done so.
'WE', in this case, are Wypipo, who are not the only white people.
DU, on the other hand, is a diverse group of many sorts of progressives (and some others) who constantly find ways to validate Will Rogers' line "I don't belong to an organized political party; I'm a Democrat."
Sancho
(9,067 posts)after all, a lot of Wypipo lives were lost at the Bowling Green massacre.
tonedevil
(3,022 posts)nearly all known stocks of covfefe were destroyed. It took decades for them to be replaced. For wypipo the struggle is virtule
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)What is Wypipo? I have seen it written on DU a lot lately, but I don't know what it means.
Bok_Tukalo
(4,322 posts)The argument now is whether or not caucasians deserve to have racial slurs directed at them.
MiniMe
(21,714 posts)Or is just a name that somebody made up? I feel really dumb about this
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IluvPitties
(3,181 posts)TCJ70
(4,387 posts)EffieBlack
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EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)people of color?
Please be specific and tell us exactly how someone here using the term "Wypipo" in any way affects your view of or relationship with anyone of color or changes your support for equality and equal opportunity?
MicaelS
(8,747 posts)As a 60 yr old cis white man, I find Wypipo funny as hell. Sort of like honky back in the 60s/70s. Not to mention "red headed peckerwood", since I USED to have red hair, freckles and am very pale.
I was thinking of derogatory words for POC, LGBT, and Women. Those words ARE hurtful and can and do divide us. Not the US on DU, but the larger society.
I came across as too harsh, and I apologize.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)But I don't agree - words hurt, but it's the mindset and attitude they express that are divisive, not the words themselves. Even if left unspoken, the divisiveness still exists.
One reason I push back on the "you're being divisive" argument is that it is almost exclusively used to shut up POC and others who point out and try to discuss racism - as if the mention of the evil brings it to life and if we just don't talk about it, it won't exist.
But I definitely hear what you're saying. Apology accepted, but not necessary.
TCJ70
(4,387 posts)EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)You know what's "racially divisive?"
Racism is racially divisive. So is bigotry. So is refusal to notice or acknowledge them.
So is the insistence that black people shouldn't talk about them because that would be "racially divisive."
BumRushDaShow
(128,702 posts)and use them as a means to oppress and assert superiority. E.g., if a term is used as a "code", like the use of the "innocent" term "inner city", which replaced the equally "innocent" term "ghetto" that was distorted from its original meaning to basically mean "poor minority slum areas", regardless of who might have also lived there that did not fit that particular economic connotation. The code version conjures up all sorts of stereotypes that are assigned to those "words" by a power structure.
Societies assign "meanings" to terms and those who control (in the majority) are the ones who can act on those assignments.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Response to EffieBlack (Reply #31)
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EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Michael Harriot is so damned funny!
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I guess Im Wypipo, and fuck anyone whos got a problem with it, including that Democratic hating black dude.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)that is?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)you will see he INTENDS it to be derogatory.
Reading comprehension is necessary in order to discuss what an author said.
Im not offended, but as others have pointed out - its divisive and just plain silly.
As to your opinion that most people pronounce words or phrases in the way you wrote - all I can say is that Im glad the folks I know have much better pronunciation skills than the ones you seem to know.
Wypipo has become the word du jour in my household today.
Thinking about renaming one of the baby chickens.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Yes, how fortunate that "the ones" you know have such good pronunciation skulls ...
Their skulls are just fine, thanks!
And one of the new spring peeps is now called pipo.
She needed a name, so thanks!
Stargleamer
(1,989 posts)Can you imagine someone saying, "I'm a proud member of the Wypipo clan!" Would bring some chuckles I would think.
Vinca
(50,248 posts)stupid topic taking up much of the discussion in this forum. Meanwhile, Dear Leader is claiming the people who crafted our immigration laws "don't love America." Priorities, people. There are words and then there are words.
GeorgeHayduke
(1,227 posts)Wondering why this wasn't locked and moved to the lounge.
argyl
(3,064 posts)If I'd have known I'd have shaken my head and voted for it to stand. I'm a wypipo myself.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)and intended as humor. The category that was literally written at the top of the article was "humor." I think maybe some white people are sensitive to the humor people of color make as oppressed people about their oppression.
I've checked out some more of the website's humorous articles and they are all funny, and they are all pointed. I wonder if white DUers would have been as offended by this one: http://neguswhoread.com/sound-white-phone/
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,315 posts)BannonsLiver
(16,342 posts)Is that he knows and understands less about the machinations of white liberals than he should as a humorist.
For example he mentions that there is no color and everyone is the same is the epitome of white liberal guilt.
Thats actually not true at all. In fact I frequently cringe when I see any white person say they dont see color. Its become the new some of my best friends are black and is most always used by a right winger. Say I dont see color around liberals youre more likely to be mocked than praised.