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MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:20 AM May 2018

Breaking: Wypipo Offended by "Wypipo"

Wait. Never mind. Of course they are. How silly of me! They think it's a derogatory term. Without reading it aloud, they don't even understand it. They believe their inborn privilege should prohibit such words. Why would anyone be surprised that they don't like that one?

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Breaking: Wypipo Offended by "Wypipo" (Original Post) MineralMan May 2018 OP
LOL Gothmog May 2018 #1
Next trending thing will be: "Not All Wypipo!" MineralMan May 2018 #2
Hey now...some of my best friends are Wypipo. lol. n/t CincyDem May 2018 #3
Wypipo Lives Matter! central scrutinizer May 2018 #19
help me out here.... TalenaGor May 2018 #4
Read it out loud. MineralMan May 2018 #5
ooooohhhkayyyy lol TalenaGor May 2018 #6
I couldn't resist. MineralMan May 2018 #7
maybe I shouldn't get on DU until I get out of bed LOL TalenaGor May 2018 #8
Breaking: It is a derogatory racial term Devil Child May 2018 #9
Are your feelings hurt? ismnotwasm May 2018 #10
Very much Devil Child May 2018 #11
I'm very glad you are going to be ok. ismnotwasm May 2018 #14
Lol! cwydro May 2018 #50
Nothing like a great unifying post to bring folks together oberliner May 2018 #12
Oh, not all of us. silverweb May 2018 #13
Eh. There are white people who don't understand because they don't want to understand ismnotwasm May 2018 #16
Agreed. silverweb May 2018 #20
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #53
That assumes our culture has- or has ever had- a level playing ground. History teaches us this is bettyellen May 2018 #55
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2018 #57
Racism is used these days to describe systemic discrimination- I believe the word you're looking for bettyellen May 2018 #58
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #60
Paraphrasing Louis CK: betsuni May 2018 #15
+1000 ismnotwasm May 2018 #17
Oh, but you have to understand Maeve May 2018 #18
Are you talking about DU or white people? B2G May 2018 #21
'WE' are the offended Maeve May 2018 #22
We should be sensitive to Wypipo feelings.... Sancho May 2018 #23
I'll never forget that day... tonedevil May 2018 #34
I missed something along the way... MiniMe May 2018 #24
It is a racial pejorative directed at caucasians. Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #27
Thanks, but what does it stand for? MiniMe May 2018 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author MrsCoffee May 2018 #56
Here: TCJ70 May 2018 #29
Thanks MiniMe May 2018 #30
I am a minority and I think it's stupid. IluvPitties May 2018 #25
Do we really need more racially divisive words? N/t TCJ70 May 2018 #26
Words aren't "racially divisive" EffieBlack May 2018 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author MicaelS May 2018 #35
Please explain how, if you aren't already a racist, anything anyone on DU writes will "divide" you f EffieBlack May 2018 #36
I'm sorry, I should have been clearer. MicaelS May 2018 #38
I understand EffieBlack May 2018 #40
Really? No words are racially divisive? Interesting...n/t TCJ70 May 2018 #37
No, they aren't on their own EffieBlack May 2018 #43
It is the context and who is in a position of power to define the words BumRushDaShow May 2018 #45
Lol! EffieBlack May 2018 #31
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #39
You need to stop being so divisive ... EffieBlack May 2018 #41
I just can't help myself ProudLib72 May 2018 #42
Wypipo vote for Hillary Clinton RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #33
Statistically speaking, we do not vote Dem anywhere near what we should. Why do you think bettyellen May 2018 #61
Um. If you read the author quoted in the other thread - cwydro May 2018 #44
"I'm glad the folks I know have much better pronunciation skills than the ones you seem to know" EffieBlack May 2018 #46
Yes. cwydro May 2018 #48
Breaking: Wypipo amused by "Wypipo" Stargleamer May 2018 #47
It's amazing. I leave the house for the morning and come back to find a new and improved Vinca May 2018 #49
Was thinking the same thing. GeorgeHayduke May 2018 #52
This post was alerted on. I had to excuse myself because I'd never heard the term "Wypipo" argyl May 2018 #51
It was a humorous article gollygee May 2018 #54
I miss the unrec. XRubicon May 2018 #59
Do tell . GeorgeGist May 2018 #62
Harriott's Problem BannonsLiver May 2018 #63

TalenaGor

(1,104 posts)
8. maybe I shouldn't get on DU until I get out of bed LOL
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:33 AM
May 2018

Let my basic comprehension skills kick in first lol

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
9. Breaking: It is a derogatory racial term
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:39 AM
May 2018

Attempting to rationalize wypipo by noting institutional racism, white fragility, white privilege, etc.. does not change the fact it is a racial slur.

 

Devil Child

(2,728 posts)
11. Very much
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:45 AM
May 2018

My white tears are flowing into my latte. It's cool tho, I'm going to an animal rights rally later so i will get over it.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
13. Oh, not all of us.
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:55 AM
May 2018

I'm an old lady "wypipo," and I think it's funny, sardonic, and very clever. "Wypipo" who are offended by the term are hypersensitive snowflakes, probably the same cretins who so freely "dish it out" with sadistic enjoyment.

(It's also a much nicer term than "cracker." That one always made me picture Saltines, which I considered blandly yucky.)


ismnotwasm

(41,971 posts)
16. Eh. There are white people who don't understand because they don't want to understand
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:03 AM
May 2018

It’s too much work, challenges too many comfortable preconceptions, interrupts the ‘I’m not a racist but” narratives as well as the “I don’t see color” justifications. In others words, Wypipo is a perfect descriptor of toxic whiteness, and since we aren’t used to being challenged on this level, many of us go into immediate “reverse racism” mode.

All of the defense mechanisms white people use to justify Whiteness as a dominant cultural standard are at best, irritating as fuck, and at worst, lead to the deaths of people with skin that is not white.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
20. Agreed.
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:51 AM
May 2018

A great many white people seem to believe that if they just deny any ingrained prejudices in their thinking, the problem of institutional racism either doesn't really exist or will simply go away.

Thinking about such things is hard, and requires a willingness and ability to be self-critical. Not a lot of people who don't consider it their problem are willing to do that work.

Response to ismnotwasm (Reply #16)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
55. That assumes our culture has- or has ever had- a level playing ground. History teaches us this is
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:00 PM
May 2018

not true. White people never suffered anything near the pain and degradation that POC have. Slurs against black people have a very ugly legacy of oppression and abuse.
It’s literally ignorant to equate the two things. If white people as a race were subject to systemic oppression and abuse they might have an argument. Being made uncomfortable is not any where near what POC face - and that’s kind of the point.

Response to bettyellen (Reply #55)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
58. Racism is used these days to describe systemic discrimination- I believe the word you're looking for
Sat May 5, 2018, 04:16 PM
May 2018

is bigotry. And since wypipo is designed to describe a subset of people who ignore racism - same as those suffering from”first world problems” - even that is quite debateable.

But we see this tactic from conservatives ALL the damn time- you can’t describe racism without being accused of bigotry. I hate to see liberals fam for that shit. But I do, all the damn time.

Response to bettyellen (Reply #58)

betsuni

(25,437 posts)
15. Paraphrasing Louis CK:
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:00 AM
May 2018

I'm a white man, you can't even hurt my feelings. What can you really call a white man? "Hey, Wypipo!" Uh, ruined my day. ... Bringing me back to owning land and people. What a drag.

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
18. Oh, but you have to understand
Sat May 5, 2018, 11:04 AM
May 2018

WE are the ones who get to make the decisions, WE are the arbiters of what is and isn't acceptable, whether it is language or forms of protest; WE define the norms that everyone else gets to abide by. And if you disagree with us, WE get to use any disagreement on ANY topic to prove that YOUR opinion is not worthy to be listened to, any time, any topic. Because WE are still the ones in charge and YOUR opinion is still only second-rate, at best, and we know better. Or as someone once noted "It's GOOD to be the king!"
/sarcasm

Sigh. Sometimes I wonder if civil society is even possible...

Maeve

(42,279 posts)
22. 'WE' are the offended
Sat May 5, 2018, 12:02 PM
May 2018

'WE' are the ones who decide that it is offensive if people protest outside what 'WE' think is the proper venue and 'WE' make the rules because 'WE' have always done so.
'WE', in this case, are Wypipo, who are not the only white people.

DU, on the other hand, is a diverse group of many sorts of progressives (and some others) who constantly find ways to validate Will Rogers' line "I don't belong to an organized political party; I'm a Democrat."

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
23. We should be sensitive to Wypipo feelings....
Sat May 5, 2018, 12:03 PM
May 2018

after all, a lot of Wypipo lives were lost at the Bowling Green massacre.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
34. I'll never forget that day...
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

nearly all known stocks of covfefe were destroyed. It took decades for them to be replaced. For wypipo the struggle is virtule

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
24. I missed something along the way...
Sat May 5, 2018, 12:52 PM
May 2018

What is Wypipo? I have seen it written on DU a lot lately, but I don't know what it means.

Bok_Tukalo

(4,322 posts)
27. It is a racial pejorative directed at caucasians.
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:05 PM
May 2018

The argument now is whether or not caucasians deserve to have racial slurs directed at them.

MiniMe

(21,714 posts)
28. Thanks, but what does it stand for?
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:12 PM
May 2018

Or is just a name that somebody made up? I feel really dumb about this

Response to MiniMe (Reply #28)

Response to EffieBlack (Reply #32)

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
36. Please explain how, if you aren't already a racist, anything anyone on DU writes will "divide" you f
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:53 PM
May 2018

people of color?

Please be specific and tell us exactly how someone here using the term "Wypipo" in any way affects your view of or relationship with anyone of color or changes your support for equality and equal opportunity?

MicaelS

(8,747 posts)
38. I'm sorry, I should have been clearer.
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:00 PM
May 2018

As a 60 yr old cis white man, I find Wypipo funny as hell. Sort of like honky back in the 60s/70s. Not to mention "red headed peckerwood", since I USED to have red hair, freckles and am very pale.

I was thinking of derogatory words for POC, LGBT, and Women. Those words ARE hurtful and can and do divide us. Not the US on DU, but the larger society.

I came across as too harsh, and I apologize.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
40. I understand
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:09 PM
May 2018

But I don't agree - words hurt, but it's the mindset and attitude they express that are divisive, not the words themselves. Even if left unspoken, the divisiveness still exists.

One reason I push back on the "you're being divisive" argument is that it is almost exclusively used to shut up POC and others who point out and try to discuss racism - as if the mention of the evil brings it to life and if we just don't talk about it, it won't exist.

But I definitely hear what you're saying. Apology accepted, but not necessary.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
43. No, they aren't on their own
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:20 PM
May 2018

You know what's "racially divisive?"

Racism is racially divisive. So is bigotry. So is refusal to notice or acknowledge them.

So is the insistence that black people shouldn't talk about them because that would be "racially divisive."

BumRushDaShow

(128,702 posts)
45. It is the context and who is in a position of power to define the words
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:27 PM
May 2018

and use them as a means to oppress and assert superiority. E.g., if a term is used as a "code", like the use of the "innocent" term "inner city", which replaced the equally "innocent" term "ghetto" that was distorted from its original meaning to basically mean "poor minority slum areas", regardless of who might have also lived there that did not fit that particular economic connotation. The code version conjures up all sorts of stereotypes that are assigned to those "words" by a power structure.

Societies assign "meanings" to terms and those who control (in the majority) are the ones who can act on those assignments.

Response to EffieBlack (Reply #31)

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
33. Wypipo vote for Hillary Clinton
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

I guess I’m Wypipo, and fuck anyone who’s got a problem with it, including that Democratic hating black dude.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
44. Um. If you read the author quoted in the other thread -
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

you will see he INTENDS it to be derogatory.

Reading comprehension is necessary in order to discuss what an author said.

I’m not offended, but as others have pointed out - it’s divisive and just plain silly.

As to your opinion that most people pronounce words or phrases in the way you wrote - all I can say is that I’m glad the folks I know have much better pronunciation skills than the ones you seem to know.

Wypipo has become the word du jour in my household today.

Thinking about renaming one of the baby chickens.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
46. "I'm glad the folks I know have much better pronunciation skills than the ones you seem to know"
Sat May 5, 2018, 02:27 PM
May 2018

Yes, how fortunate that "the ones" you know have such good pronunciation skulls ...

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
48. Yes.
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:16 PM
May 2018

Their “skulls” are just fine, thanks!

And one of the new spring peeps is now called pipo.

She needed a name, so thanks!

Stargleamer

(1,989 posts)
47. Breaking: Wypipo amused by "Wypipo"
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:07 PM
May 2018

Can you imagine someone saying, "I'm a proud member of the Wypipo clan!" Would bring some chuckles I would think.

Vinca

(50,248 posts)
49. It's amazing. I leave the house for the morning and come back to find a new and improved
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018

stupid topic taking up much of the discussion in this forum. Meanwhile, Dear Leader is claiming the people who crafted our immigration laws "don't love America." Priorities, people. There are words and then there are words.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
51. This post was alerted on. I had to excuse myself because I'd never heard the term "Wypipo"
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:25 PM
May 2018

If I'd have known I'd have shaken my head and voted for it to stand. I'm a wypipo myself.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
54. It was a humorous article
Sat May 5, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

and intended as humor. The category that was literally written at the top of the article was "humor." I think maybe some white people are sensitive to the humor people of color make as oppressed people about their oppression.

I've checked out some more of the website's humorous articles and they are all funny, and they are all pointed. I wonder if white DUers would have been as offended by this one: http://neguswhoread.com/sound-white-phone/

BannonsLiver

(16,342 posts)
63. Harriott's Problem
Sat May 5, 2018, 06:05 PM
May 2018

Is that he knows and understands less about the machinations of white liberals than he should as a humorist.

For example he mentions that there is no color and everyone is the same is the epitome of white liberal guilt.

That’s actually not true at all. In fact I frequently cringe when I see any white person say they don’t see color. It’s become the new “some of my best friends are black” and is most always used by a right winger. Say I don’t see color around liberals you’re more likely to be mocked than praised.

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