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Sun May 6, 2018, 08:29 AM

Rudy drops Trump in it again......More Women?




Did Michael Cohen make payments to other women on behalf of the president? Rudy Giuliani tells @GStephanopoulos: “I have no knowledge of that, but I would think if it was necessary, yes." http://abcn.ws/2KANG5L



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Setting it up for more revelations.

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Reply Rudy drops Trump in it again......More Women? (Original post)
sunonmars May 2018 OP
MontanaMama May 2018 #1
sunonmars May 2018 #2
babylonsister May 2018 #3
Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #14
Maxheader May 2018 #26
Bucky May 2018 #31
NewJeffCT May 2018 #4
MontanaMama May 2018 #7
Baitball Blogger May 2018 #22
Baitball Blogger May 2018 #21
MontanaMama May 2018 #24
Izzy Blue May 2018 #9
GreenEyedLefty May 2018 #10
duforsure May 2018 #5
Izzy Blue May 2018 #6
FakeNoose May 2018 #13
InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #8
treestar May 2018 #11
Fred Sanders May 2018 #17
treestar May 2018 #25
NastyRiffraff May 2018 #12
smirkymonkey May 2018 #27
wiggs May 2018 #15
onetexan May 2018 #16
bucolic_frolic May 2018 #18
Pluvious May 2018 #19
Tom Rinaldo May 2018 #20
DallasNE May 2018 #23
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 #28
Danascot May 2018 #29
Blue Owl May 2018 #30

Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:49 AM

1. Dollars to doughnuts

Rudy has no clients. I am envisioning the bathrobe clad Dotard in front of his tv watching Rudy go from show to show attempting to explain and normalize his shitty behavior.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #1)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:53 AM

2. Either Rudy is stupid or he is setting up a way out for the idiot.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #2)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:55 AM

3. A way out? I would think more disclosures would compound his problems. nt

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #2)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:31 AM

14. Way out




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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #14)

Sun May 6, 2018, 12:13 PM

26. Great...

Absolutely..perfect facial..

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #2)

Mon May 7, 2018, 01:29 AM

31. 3rd Theory: Rudy is getting even with Trump

You know how Republicans are, they're always looking for ways to stab each other in the back.

Trump is the worst of them, but a big fat ego like Giuliani probably doesn't mind going suicide bomber on the dude who put him in a dress and has ever since shown him the back of his hand on a regular basis

It's probably a bad Theory, but I do get a kick out of thinking that Giuliani might be deliberately screwing up Trump's defense on TV

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #1)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:56 AM

4. He hasn't really been active in law

since the early 90s. He was a District Attorney in the 80s, which is where he made his name, then was mayor from 93-2001 and then has basically been resting on his laurels, making appearances on Fox News, and also failing at running for president.

So, I'm guessing that (at best) he's really rusty.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #4)

Sun May 6, 2018, 09:01 AM

7. Clearly.

He talks about his ‘clients’ often which is why I brought it up. Maybe he is describing how it used to be back in the day. Regardless he sounds ridiculous. While there will be a slice of the deplorable base who listens to him and will say “that sounds legit...” More of us are rolling our eyes.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #7)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:17 AM

22. I think Rudy is channeling some very bad lawyer practices that DID happen in the nineties.

Lawyers acting like fixers, only making the world more difficult for everyone.

It happened here.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #4)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:16 AM

21. Rusty?

He's going to turn into a class study for malpractice.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #21)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:58 AM

24. Yes please.

Wouldn’t that be great if history frowned on Rudy? Erase whatever good he did after 9/11. Idiot.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #1)

Sun May 6, 2018, 09:23 AM

9. A blast from the past, Giuliani and the bathrobe.

 

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"Alleged head of the Genovese crime family, Vincent Gigante (1928-2005, pictured in 1990) evaded conviction for decades by feigning mental illness. Gigante was known for walking the streets of New York City in a bathrobe while talking to himself".

Rudy Giuliani and the Desperate Campaign to Protect the President

"It’s quite possible that Rudy Giuliani would be dead today were it not for Vincent (the Chin) Gigante, the cunning Mob boss who oversaw the Genovese crime family in the nineteen-eighties and nineties. In 1986, the leaders of the five major New York Mafia families voted on whether to kill Giuliani, who was then the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and leading an aggressive push to prosecute Mob leaders. John Gotti—the most famous mafioso of his day—led the faction in favor of the motion, but Gigante cast the deciding third vote against it, and the idea was dismissed.

It was a shrewd move by Gigante. Giuliani, in his years as a U.S. Attorney, had an impressive run prosecuting Mafia figures. This track record helped set up his successful run for New York City mayor, in 1993. But he never brought down Gigante, the biggest boss in town. Gigante was a brilliant Mafia innovator. He spent years pretending to be developmentally disabled and schizophrenic, shuffling around Greenwich Village in a bathrobe and pajamas. He relied on a “front boss,” installing Anthony (Fat Tony) Salerno as the nominal head of the Genovese family while he, Gigante, retained most of the actual power, to run his organized-crime empire at a remove, discreetly issuing his orders through the ever-loyal Dominick (Quiet Dom) Cirillo. In 1986, the same year that the Five Families voted on whether to kill Giuliani, Salerno was convicted as part of the Mafia Commission Trial. Gigante remained free for another decade.

In this way, Gigante and Giuliani were allies. They both had an interest in high-profile, tabloid-cover prosecutions of loud, famous Mob figureheads. I have to assume that Giuliani understood the arrangement. He got his heads on a pike, and Gigante stayed out of the spotlight. Gigante was finally convicted—of racketeering and conspiring to kill other mobsters—in 1997, years after Giuliani stepped down as U.S. Attorney. However discreet he had been, Gigante had, on a small handful of occasions, allowed some of the younger guys in his organization to meet with him—and that was his downfall. After decades of committing and ordering murders, and running countless illegal schemes, he was sentenced to twelve years in prison, where he died, in 2005.

What would the Chin make of this week’s madness? What would he think of Giuliani’s oafish, self-destructive, client-destructive blathering on television? On Sean Hannity’s Fox News program Wednesday night, Giuliani—unprompted—revealed that President Trump had lied when he said that he knew nothing about the election-season payoff that Michael Cohen, his longtime fixer, made to Stephanie Clifford, the porn actress known as Stormy Daniels. Giuliani—not heeding Hannity’s panicked warnings—went on to confirm that Cohen almost never did legal work for Trump. This undermined the argument, recently put forward by Cohen’s lawyers, that the records the government seized last month in Cohen’s office are protected by attorney-client privilege. On Thursday morning, Giuliani compounded the damage on “Fox & Friends,” where he first said that the payoff to Daniels—who claims to have had an affair with Trump, in 2006—had nothing to do with the election, before quickly contradicting himself and saying that it had everything to do with the election: an assertion that would support the argument that Trump and Cohen violated election laws."


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https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/rudy-giuliani-and-the-desperate-campaign-to-protect-the-president





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Response to Izzy Blue (Reply #9)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:12 AM

10. Trump is so sleazy and mobby.

Giuliani is right there in the mix. I think he is purposely muddying the water, giving the media threads to sort out while they continue their grifty games.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:57 AM

5. He's stupid but,

Trying to accept this may be next, more women, a lot more women coming forward against them. trump rarely wants to use this tactic so it may become interesting about what happens to ghoulliani's future.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 08:59 AM

6. Playboy Bunny Karen McDougal

 

AMI/The National Enquirer paid her $150,000 in hush money in August 2016 about her affair with Trump.

Where did the money originate from and if it was from an AMI account was it reimbursed by Cohen/Trump?

McDougal found out from a recent NYT's piece that her lawyer at the time,Keith Davidson, was also in touch with Michael Cohen during the negotiations with AMI.

iirc, Her NDA and Stormy's were mentioned in the Michael Cohen NY search warrants.

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Response to Izzy Blue (Reply #6)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:28 AM

13. I'd guess that the National Enquirer was reimbursed by Trump (via Cohen)

So this will come out in the documents that the FBI seized from Cohen's office.

As for the "other women" it's in Michael Wolff's book Fire and Fury that Cohen paid off as many as 100 women in the last couple weeks before the election. I think Wolff quotes Steve Bannon but he doesn't give any of the women's names. Most likely Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougla would be included in that number, but they aren't named in the book.

There were perhaps a dozen women who refused to sign the NDA and didn't get paid to keep quiet. Those women were presumably the ones who filed charges against him for sexual misconduct - mostly for grabbing, touching or kissing without permission. I don't believe any of the women claimed they were raped, except for the 13 year old girl who was never proven and has since dropped the charges.

My point is that there were a LOT of women in his past, and many happened while Trump was married.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 09:19 AM

8. Howdy Roody... the gift that keeps on giving!!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:15 AM

11. Doesn't that make it acceptable for anyone who

finds it "necessary." Come on, they would not allow that for Bill Clinton, etc.

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Response to treestar (Reply #11)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:53 AM

17. Rudy: "Yes, of course, silly, if my client fucked more porn stars for money and then paid them

off to keep silent, even as his new bride was pregnant, that was just business as usual for rich folk like him. Silly not rich people!"

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Response to Fred Sanders (Reply #17)

Sun May 6, 2018, 12:09 PM

25. Those rules are for you silly not rich people !

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:21 AM

12. Rudy speaks Trump's language

At times he sounds exactly like him. Same bloviating lies, same narcissistic bragging, same rapid double-talk. However, he may talk himself out of a job. Not because he lies--Trump doesn't care about that; but because Rudy likes being the center of attention, and Trump DOES care about that. Only Trump himself is allowed to be the center.

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Response to NastyRiffraff (Reply #12)

Sun May 6, 2018, 12:19 PM

27. I was thinking the same thing. He's stealing Trump's thunder, however on the

other hand, he's taking some of the heat off of him by being the stupid, senile one that everyone talks about. Sooner or later, Trump will tire of him and he'll be history. I'm amazed he's lasted this long.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:40 AM

15. GOP statement interpretation rule #7: If they admit to anything at all, it's because

the full story is much worse

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:46 AM

16. this is so crazy insane it's laughable

Giuliani seems to think that if they just come clean that makes the situation all right and no laws were broken. And this is a former US prosecutor spewing this nonsense, no less. Open mouth, insert foot.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:00 AM

18. If it can be imagined ...

Rudy has Trump envy

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:10 AM

19. Cohen no doubt has Binders Full of Payoffs !!

Which sadly might not be deemed germane and never reach public disclosure.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:12 AM

20. It's all going to come out. The Feds have the evidence

If Rudy knows there were other women and that the evidence seized will prove that, there is no error in him addressing that now.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 11:21 AM

23. Trump "Retainer" Fee Was $35,000 A Month In 2017

$420,000 is enough to pay off 3 women at the Daniels rate with a little left over for Cohen's services. And Trump had more than enough left from his inaugural fund to cover the $420,000.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:07 PM

28. You're not doing your client any favors Giuliani

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:11 PM

29. When Avenatti was on Colbert recently

Stephan asked Avenatti about talk that he had been approached by other women who might also have Stormy type problems with Trump.

Starts at about 7:40

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 09:32 PM

30. The reply of a master lawyer there...

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