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Has Rudy ever been ok after 9/11? (Original Post) mainstreetonce May 2018 OP
Was He OK Before Me. May 2018 #1
Ding, Ding Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #3
So guilt might be part of it. mainstreetonce May 2018 #4
Actually, I don't think he was okay before 9/11, but if he's capable, perhaps catbyte May 2018 #2
He was awful before edhopper May 2018 #5
He was a piece of shit before 9-11 JI7 May 2018 #6
9/11 was the best day of Rudy's life. Paladin May 2018 #7
He's never been "okay". no_hypocrisy May 2018 #8

catbyte

(34,333 posts)
2. Actually, I don't think he was okay before 9/11, but if he's capable, perhaps
Mon May 7, 2018, 08:28 PM
May 2018

there's some guilt over refusing to upgrade FDNY communications equipment, which added to the death toll that day. Or maybe putting the EOC in the basement of WTC #7, against the wishes of just about everybody. Or perhaps all of the blood money he made off of exploiting that tragic day, of which he had a hand in making even worse. Just a guess.

edhopper

(33,479 posts)
5. He was awful before
Mon May 7, 2018, 08:30 PM
May 2018

he just got good PR because he had no place to go but stay outside inbthe wreckage.
Having put the City's emergancy center in the WTC so he could use it to screw his girlfriend.

Paladin

(28,243 posts)
7. 9/11 was the best day of Rudy's life.
Mon May 7, 2018, 08:33 PM
May 2018

That speaks volumes about the guy. I'm ashamed I ever felt any admiration for him.

no_hypocrisy

(46,020 posts)
8. He's never been "okay".
Mon May 7, 2018, 08:34 PM
May 2018

During his campaign for mayor in 1992 or 1993, he prostituted himself to get support from the NYPD. One rally had him repeatedly screaming in a bullhorn, "BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT! BULLSHIT!" and they ate it up. Rudy was referencing then current mayor, David Dinkins, the first African-American to hold that position.

Lynn Samuels had her local radio talkshow on WABC at the time. Every three minutes, she'd remind the caller and the listeners how "vile" and "despicable" Rudy Giuliani was and she could justify it.

Giuliani was the one who had "squeegee men" arrested, the ones who wait for you to be stuck in traffic, come up to your car, clean the windshield without your permission, and then demanded money.

Giuliani was the one who wanted Medicaid recipients to work for their benefits. One thing stuck out though: Giuliani was going to fire union civil servants who did garbage collection, parks beautification, etc. and get the same labor with slave labor. It never went through.

We had another radio talkshow host, Bill Mazer on WEVD. He would also report on Rudy's deficiencies, although with a muffled sigh. That's because Rudy had given a heartwarming eulogy for Bill's wife, Dutch and Bill couldn't let go of that.

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