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Stop saying Melania speaks five languages (Original Post) Bluesaph May 2018 OP
"We know she's fluent in Michelle Obama" EffieBlack May 2018 #1
Colbert said this last night also, I doubt it very much Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #2
There is a huge difference between "speaks" and "is fluent." MineralMan May 2018 #3
She speaks 5 languages.... CatMor May 2018 #4
Architecture? Are you shitting me? Dave Starsky May 2018 #10
Her former webpage DID say she graduated with Laura PourMeADrink May 2018 #17
She does not have a degree in anything. Greybnk48 May 2018 #21
I really doubt that she has more than a ninth-grade education. Dave Starsky May 2018 #23
Yes poof gone. Lie hiding. Laura PourMeADrink May 2018 #24
I advised ARCH majors for 10 years, no way this bimbo could handle that curriculum. redstatebluegirl May 2018 #27
I can't even believe they thought that was even slightly credible. Dave Starsky May 2018 #29
I could believe interior design. redstatebluegirl May 2018 #33
Thank you! Delphinus May 2018 #5
Thank you! Bluesaph May 2018 #12
Hell, I'm fluent in five languages cyclonefence May 2018 #6
Lol..fake italian Demovictory9 May 2018 #7
I always thought that to be fluent in a language mitch96 May 2018 #8
the way she speaks english... mitch96 May 2018 #9
More like she butchers five languages. smirkymonkey May 2018 #11
Exactly. Take Arianna Huffington as an example. Sure you can tell Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #13
The problem with Melania is that she has nothing but time. A huge amount of smirkymonkey May 2018 #18
I was being sarcastic when I said "she couldn't find the time". nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #22
She sure does butcher English Rorey May 2018 #28
Speaking 5 languages is something many From EU TeamPooka May 2018 #14
But she can't. She can speak a few phrases that she learned from a smirkymonkey May 2018 #19
I said speak not fluent. Many in Europe can do basic communications in many languages. It's a TeamPooka May 2018 #20
She parlez-vous Espaniola molten bennie! struggle4progress May 2018 #15
There's a name in Spanish for that lunatica May 2018 #25
Never knew pocho! I was walking behind the pianist Martha Argerich backstage a long time ago fierywoman May 2018 #39
The description of such activity is called lunatica May 2018 #41
Judging from one of her encounters with schoolchildren kskiska May 2018 #16
Never believed that. Tipperary May 2018 #26
She has so much difficulty expressing herself in English that it makes me thhink she lunamagica May 2018 #30
Yes I read he was on Larry King before he started school and had an accent but he is lunasun May 2018 #37
Not only that, there is also her talk about coming legally to the US and working legally lunamagica May 2018 #40
Well, she at least has to speak Ig-pay Atin-Lay to communicate with [Redacted] n/t TygrBright May 2018 #31
By those standards, I'm fluent in at least 11 languages. oasis May 2018 #32
She spends a lot of time with her parents, who speak Slovakian kskiska May 2018 #34
Slovene. nt Guy Whitey Corngood May 2018 #38
There is NO way she speaks 5 languages let alone to proficiency. onecaliberal May 2018 #35
I'm fluent in English and gibberish. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #36
"Be best y'all, fo' shizzel" oasis May 2018 #42
Her Italian sucks. Drahthaardogs May 2018 #43
 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
1. "We know she's fluent in Michelle Obama"
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:00 PM
May 2018


I speak enough of several languages to get by and it really impresses the hell out of my friends who don’t speak those langauges and don’t know that I’m really just talking baby talk - but I would never claim to be “fluent in four languages.

MineralMan

(146,337 posts)
3. There is a huge difference between "speaks" and "is fluent."
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:06 PM
May 2018

If you're conversationally competent in some language, you can say you speak that language.

To say you are fluent in a language, you have to be able to express yourself in that language clearly and without significant errors of grammar and vocabulary usage.

I speak several languages at different levels of competence. I am fluent only in English. I can be polite and hold everyday conversations in French, Spanish, Russian and English. I can be polite in several others. But, I can think, write, and converse freely only in my native language, which is English.

Few people are truly fluent in more than a couple of languages. True fluency is very difficult to attain in a language not learned from birth.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
10. Architecture? Are you shitting me?
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:22 PM
May 2018

We're supposed to believe she has a degree in architecture, of all things?

I just Googled it. You aren't shitting me.

Dios mio.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. Her former webpage DID say she graduated with
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:24 AM
May 2018

A degree in architecture. Remembering that impressed me at the time. But the site disappeared and people think trump set that up to make his wife look smarter.

Greybnk48

(10,177 posts)
21. She does not have a degree in anything.
Wed May 9, 2018, 01:09 AM
May 2018

I saw the old webpage too. I think they got rid of that lie. Too easy to expose.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
23. I really doubt that she has more than a ninth-grade education.
Wed May 9, 2018, 07:22 AM
May 2018

Or whatever the Slovenian equivalent is.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
29. I can't even believe they thought that was even slightly credible.
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:54 PM
May 2018

Apparently some idiot with the Trump campaign thought that architecture is just the study of pretty buildings.

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
6. Hell, I'm fluent in five languages
Tue May 8, 2018, 12:09 PM
May 2018

if you limit the vocabulary to menus. Chicken Kung Pao, spaghetti marinara, creme brulee, smorgasbord, and tapas. There you go.

mitch96

(13,929 posts)
8. I always thought that to be fluent in a language
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:30 PM
May 2018

besides the other obvious things is to be able to understand and create a subtle joke or word play...
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mitch96

(13,929 posts)
9. the way she speaks english...
Tue May 8, 2018, 01:34 PM
May 2018

Would be a perfect casting for Dracula's wife. I hear her speak and I think Vlad the Impaler!
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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. More like she butchers five languages.
Tue May 8, 2018, 02:25 PM
May 2018

She has been in this country over 20 years and can still barely speak the language. It's not like she hasn't had every opportunity to take advantage of various resources to improve her skills. Like her idiot husband, she is lazy and it shows. She does nothing but shop and pamper herself. She's a completely useless waste of space.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,505 posts)
13. Exactly. Take Arianna Huffington as an example. Sure you can tell
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:55 PM
May 2018

she wasn't raised here by her accent. But she knows how the fuck to use articles in sentences and I'm pretty sure she knows the word is resiliency and not "re-silence". It's not her accent that people should give a shit about. It's the fact that with all the resources she's benefited from. She just can't seem to find the time to learn the most basic grammar.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
18. The problem with Melania is that she has nothing but time. A huge amount of
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:26 AM
May 2018

free time and money and she does absolutely nothing to improve herself. She is just as intellectually lazy and incurious as her husband. Their only cares in life are about looking and acting rich. They are both repulsive.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
28. She sure does butcher English
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

The reason she hasn't learned to speak English any better than she has is likely because she spends most of her time with her Slovenian family.

I HATE that she's the FLOTUS. I have absolutely no respect for her, and I have absolutely no sympathy for her.

And I don't consider her attractive either because of the attitude she conveys with her expressions.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
19. But she can't. She can speak a few phrases that she learned from a
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:29 AM
May 2018

tourist conversation book and not even that well. That is hardly what I would call being fluent. She has been in the US for over twenty years and can barely speak English. I think her skills as a polyglot are highly over-rated.

TeamPooka

(24,262 posts)
20. I said speak not fluent. Many in Europe can do basic communications in many languages. It's a
Wed May 9, 2018, 01:04 AM
May 2018

proximity thing.
the nations in Europe are small and close to each other so if you learn the basics at a young age you have a chance to use that language skill the rest of your life and keep up the skill, unlike Americans who's multilingualism potential is restricted by the lack of opportunity to use the skills daily/weekly.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
25. There's a name in Spanish for that
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:39 PM
May 2018

Pocho. It means mixing the words in all the languages you know, so that only another person who knows those languages understands what you said. It can be a source of much humor when done for fun.

fierywoman

(7,696 posts)
39. Never knew pocho! I was walking behind the pianist Martha Argerich backstage a long time ago
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:19 PM
May 2018

(my orch had just played the Schumann concerto with her) and she was speaking pocho with someone -- it was hysterical! Pocho: I love it!

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
41. The description of such activity is called
Wed May 9, 2018, 05:41 PM
May 2018

pochismo in Spanish. There are probably descriptive words in other languages for this but I don’t know the.

kskiska

(27,048 posts)
16. Judging from one of her encounters with schoolchildren
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:12 AM
May 2018

I found that I can speak French as well as she. All she did say hello and ask their names. I can do that.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
30. She has so much difficulty expressing herself in English that it makes me thhink she
Wed May 9, 2018, 03:57 PM
May 2018

doesn't practices it too often, which is strange considering she married an American man.

I wonders if she surrounds herself with Slovenian servants assistants and nannies. I've even heard that Barron speaks with a slovenian accent

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
37. Yes I read he was on Larry King before he started school and had an accent but he is
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:16 PM
May 2018

in school,and may have lost it. And there is nothing wrong with a family speaking another language at home or amongst themselves .
What is wrong is how she stands with trump to demonize others who speak Spanish because they are brown arousing violence among thier own hateful voters to demand speak English only of other citizens ,
or how she questioned Obama's birth and faith on national TV
If she was kind and honest her broken English would not be ridiculed as much imo but she comes off a lyinahole

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
40. Not only that, there is also her talk about coming legally to the US and working legally
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:22 PM
May 2018

but she has never said how she obtained her visa, or if she had a work permit.

But then again, I think she's nothing but a puppet with a script.

kskiska

(27,048 posts)
34. She spends a lot of time with her parents, who speak Slovakian
Wed May 9, 2018, 04:07 PM
May 2018

and even her son is fluent in Slovakian.

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