Never forget that like Nazi Germany and Hitler, the American Public is to blame for DJT as well

[NewsCenter28]

Many historians and military figures said (after the war-look it up) that the German people needed to be punished for the crimes of their leadership and taught their evil ways. So does the complicit American public, sadly. Its time to stop blaming DJT exclusively on Russia, FNC and Limbaugh.

[oberliner]

1. Don't blame me, I voted for Hillary

[Marengo]

2. The entire American public needs to be punished, or just a subset? Punished how?

[JustAnotherGen]

6. I'm for the subset

We have their yard signs, social media posts, bumper stickers, etc. etc. We have pictures of them at his rallies.

Shame and ostracizing them would work for me.

[Behind the Aegis]

11. +1

No one is saying "lock them up", but they sure as hell should be shamed and ostracized for fucking up our country even more and adding to the climate of hate, bigotry, and fear!

[JustAnotherGen]

13. I'm not there yet

But the French did a good job with a lot of their collaborators.

If 45 really IS a Trojan horse then eh? His rabid supporters knowingly and willingly supported a foreign enemy.

BTA- I've become 'evil' my friend - and I think a few folks like me are needed in America. Seriously.

[Marengo]

18. What form would this shaming and ostracization take?

[regnaD kciN]

7. Generally, when one side "loses"...

...the victorious side doesn't bother to make many distinctions between those who were enthusiastic supporters of the losing side, and those who might have objected but not to the extent of taking up arms.

[zipplewrath]

3. A minority

I know what you mean, I keep reminding people that every single person in congress is elected. But especially in the case of Trump, it was a minority that elected Trump. And I'd hazard a guess that some of that minority did so with the intent of being able to say "Don't blame me, I voted for Trump", believing he'd never be elected. I strongly suggest a fair number of Stein voters did too.

We have also reached an unfortunate point where a minority is really running the country. Look at Alabama. They elected a senator there who was a democrat. But they have all but one republican for the House seats. They've so divided the majority up, that they only get 1/7th representation. We can look at the country at large and see an imbalance in representation as well. It is why democratic ideas poll well, and elect poorly.

Democracy has been described as the minority agreeing to be ruled by the majority. When our republic was formed, they took pains to protect the minority from the excesses of the majority. Today, we have a political structure that in fact places the minority in charge. I'm not sure how long we can keep this up. It's typically when pitch forks come out.

[Cosmocat]

8. It wasn't a minority - it was a significant majority

1/3 of the people in this country voted for the jackass, and another 1/3 either sat it out or voted third party.

As Edmond Burke noted, all it takes for tyranny to prevail is good men to do nothing.

People don't get the depth of the hole we are in.

Only our 1/3 is fighting for democracy now. Their 1/3 is wildly driving us toward fascism, and another 1/3 is willing to accept it.

[zipplewrath]

9. Reminds me of the American Revolution

It was often asserted that the majority of the population just didn't care. A minority supported each side, and only as as the war forced people to take sides did the patriot side grow to a near majority.

[Cosmocat]

14. Had not thought of that

MAYBE if push comes to shove, the "middle" get into the game, but christ sake, how off the rails does the GOP/45 have to be?

[zipplewrath]

17. We'll see in November

I actually suspect that much of the current rise in "activism" is people basically saying "what the heck happened while I was sleeping?"

[regnaD kciN]

4. Of course, one could point out the not-so-small difference...

...that Hitler had the support of a majority of the German people at least at points during his rule, which has never been the case with Trump.

And, by the way, it wasn't just "many historians and military people" who wanted the German people punished. The initial U.S. plan for postwar Germany was to completely destroy its industrial base and divide it into a number of small countries that would be kept at an agricultural subsistence level permanently, even with estimates of the death toll for those having to survive in that arrangement reaching the hundreds of thousands if not millions. Germany was only "lucky" in that the Soviet Union's grab of Eastern Europe (East Germany included) suddenly forced the U.S. to pivot from fascism as the enemy to communism as the enemy, with the realization that it needed the remainder of Germany to ally itself with us, and that we needed to treat them generously to contrast their outcome with the fate of those behind the "Iron Curtain."

[JustAnotherGen]

5. The complicit ones

I'm seriously not responsible for ANY of this. I did my duty, and I continue to do so.

I will not be held responsible for the evil.

I'm not a collaborator - and that's that.

[haele]

10. After the decades this country has been meddling with propping up dictators

and sociopathic corporate stooges who have been indiscriminately murdering their own people - as well as the various administration's own indiscriminate missile/drone strikes, torture, and war-mongering, if something this radical goes down, the American people as a whole think anyone in this country is going to be immune to what might happen are naïve. Even those of us who can claim "Don't blame me, I voted for XYZ" types.
Time to go to Canada or some other country while the borders are still open, and hope to only suffer the economic punishment that will affect the rest of the world as the US falls. This is what Putin wants, because he's as much of a short-sighted egoist as any other corporate asshole (Koch, Mercer, Thiel, Bezos, etc...) or mob-boss who thinks they have a shot at being dictator of the World. Because they believe life is as cheap as one's bank account is.

War and retaliation does not discriminate. And the US kleptocrats and hawks have so neutered the UN, we as a country - like all those other third world country minorities - can't depend on the UN to protect the average Joe when shit finally goes down.

Haele

[NewsCenter28]

12. The misogyny that led, in no small part, to HRC losing

Is a significant stream of consciousness in the American body politic and by no means did it begin or end with DJT. And I say this as a man. I did not realize and was clueless to just how pervasive misogyny is in America until HRC's 2016 campaign.

Even the lack of voting in general elections is complicit approval for the policies of our Nazi regime.

Angry? You bet I am! Even more every day!

[maxsolomon]

15. I recently saw a documentary on the hitler youth

with many interviews with still living germans.

in the aftermath, the allies made german citizens go to theatres and see films of the atrocities, took them to the death camps to witness the corpses and the survivors, so they couldn't deny it had happened. or their culpability.

it seems to have worked.

[GusBob]

16. What historians? What military figures?

I dont need to look it up, I have read dozens of books on the subjects. It's not many by my read.

The military figures that have been documented to punish the German citizens are Russian. For example, it has been documented by historians that during the invasion of Germany, the Russian soldiers raped millions of German women. Many women were ganged raped by Russians while their husbands, parents and children watched. And then there was the Soviet Iron curtain

The same historians are quick to point out that allied soldiers treated the German citizens with respect as per the rules of war. The exception being those that lived around the extermination camps.