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Looks like Dewine received just as much votes in the Republican primary than the Democrats combined in their primary. And Taylor received almost as much as the Democratic winner.
Our turnout sucks!!
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)yardwork
(61,599 posts)The effort is designed to depress turnout.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)was still higher than Republican, in spite of dissident efforts to demoralize Democrats.
The OP is too harsh. This is the primary, not the general. As is always the case, many Dems are okay with any Democrat. But we can be sure that in November they will be very much not okay with the Republicans. That's the turnout that will tell.
And as for those who backed a weak candidate who ran on a platform of Democratic Party issues but "differentiated" himself by trashing Democrats in general, congratulations for losing. We need to WIN this governorship in November, not fulfill the claim that we always defeat ourselves.
CincyDem
(6,355 posts)The Republican race in Ohio was a dogfight between DeWine and the current Lt. Gov Taylor. I don't know the $$$ but I can not remember as many ads for a primary as we've been seeing for the past 3-4 weeks. Relentless is an understatement.
The Dem size was much more of an expect outcome...in spite of news stories trying to make it sound competitive, it's not surprising that Cordray pulled in 70+% of the vote - in spite of it being a percent of a smaller number.
The other thing I would consider is Issue 1, our anti-gerrymandering ballot initiative. It won handily in spite of Republican opposition and I see that as a weakening of republican's stranglehold on the statehouse.
I'm not willing to declare "trouble" AND we have to GOTV.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Kucinich obviously failed to inspire the independent and Right leaning 'economically challenged' like some thought he would.
Now, Dems need to work to GOTV in November. It's time to coalesce around the winner and get to work. DeWine needs to work on a message that resonates with the locals.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)But yes, the message must be crafted for locals, not Washington.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)I'm not sure why you thought I didn't?
My point was Kucinich, who lost badly in moderate to low turnout, didn't inspire voters to get to the polls like his supporters thought he would. All politics is local, and we need to focus on each region specifically. Focus on their interests, needs and wants. Which more often than not won't mirror our own by and large. This is why a "national" message is a poor strategy in local elections.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Sounds like encouragement to DeWine to me, or you made a mistake and meant to put Cordray there.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)It was a brain fart? I was talking to my spouse and typing here and never knew I did that.
Thanks for pointing it out and being so kind about it!
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)It needed to be said. Thanks for the dose of truth as an antidote to the pervasive myth.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Politicians are beholden to the regions they hail from. The person some may want to win because they feel they represent their views means literally nothing if they can't resonate with and inspire the local demographic to vote for them.
All politic is local. There are no unicorns in local politics, either you honestly know your demographic and speak to them specifically, or you lose. This often means concessions and moderation if we want to win in districts not friendly to liberals.
I know that's not popular here, but it's still the reality of winning majorities.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... to win STATEWIDE races in places like West Virginia or Ohio.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)That's all I'm going to say here, but really that's all that need be said I think.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Kucinich won exactly 1% of the vote in the New Hampshire primary that year. I'm glad he lost this primary too but I don't think Kucinich is a good bell weather for all potential "hard left" candidates.
Ninsianna
(1,349 posts)attacking Democrats, on Fox. That is not a move that will win over the base.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)Then I saw him for what he was (it took all of one election cycle for me to see through him) and is now and moved on. I matured and he's still the same.
I'm just extremely happy the voters saw him for what he was and passed him by.
elocs
(22,571 posts)and I don't want to hear any lame-ass excuses. Republicans so often tend to vote like it's their duty while those on the Left need to be motivated and excited to get out and vote.
But if Trump hasn't motivated the Left enough to defeat as many Republicans as possible I don't know what it will ever take.
blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)blue neen
(12,319 posts)I've been watching the returns on MSNBC. About 20% more of the Republican vote has been tabulated than the Democratic, which would account for a large vote differenential. This was as of 10:30.
Feel free to correct this if wrong.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)A difference of 148,000.
blue neen
(12,319 posts)Other sites, like Politico, are showing a difference of about 148,000. Sherrod Brown was running opposed, so that may have affected turnout statewide for Democrats.
See Post #24.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)I was using a site which did not have the complete vote for the Democrats. I will correct the earlier post. Thanks.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)I have skipped a primary here and there in my life if I didn't care who won. I've never missed a general election.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)GOP incumbent Pittenger lost the House primary to Trump asshole Mark Harris. This might be better for us. The Dem running against him will be Dan McCready, a veteran and solar energy businessman.
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Bantamfancier
(366 posts)The real winner was issue 1. Which was approved 75% to 25%.
We voted to provide a more level playing field for future elections.
edhopper
(33,575 posts)in general elections ad has a Congressional delegation that is 12R - 4D from gerrymandering.
The vote yesterday could mean a 4 seat pick up for the Dems even without the anti-Trump Blue Wave coming
Good news.
riversedge
(70,205 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/08/us/elections/results-ohio-primary-elections.html
..................Ohio is one of the archetypal swing states in presidential elections, but Republicans have dominated state politics for three decades and held the office of governor for 24 of the last 28 years.
For Democrats, the primary has been seen as a proxy battle between two liberal titans: Senator Bernie Sanders, whose allies supported Dennis Kucinich, a former congressman, and Senator Elizabeth Warren, who endorsed Richard Cordray, a former state attorney general...........................
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/05/08/us/elections/results-ohio-primary-elections.html
RandySF
(58,799 posts)Is that Cordray had it wrapped up weeks ago.
RandySF
(58,799 posts)DeWine and Taylor spent weeks beating the shit out of each other while Cordray coasted.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)farmbo
(3,121 posts)DeWine did NOT receive more votes than the democratic field... not even close.
And Mary Taylor did not draw more votes than Cordray... not even close.
Plus, both DeWine and Taylor spent 3x more than All Dems combined on truly nasty attack ads against their Republican opponents. They may both be damaged goods.
Final tally:
Cordray drew 423,264 votes (62%) in a field of six
DeWine drew 494,766 votes(59.8%) in a field of two
Taylor drew 330,783 ((40.2) against DeWine
Sorry, the sky is not falling here in Ohio.