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TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:51 PM May 2018

Trump wants a war with Iran and I will not be able to support those troops.

Not going along with that bullshit mantra this time.
I'll feel sorry for them, but I won't support them and what Trump does with them this way.
Fool me once.

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Trump wants a war with Iran and I will not be able to support those troops. (Original Post) TeamPooka May 2018 OP
Don't support them. They're all volunteers, of course. Glorfindel May 2018 #1
We volunteer to serve our country, not for specific wars. helmedon1974 May 2018 #7
Any sane thinking General in the Armed Forces....... ProudMNDemocrat May 2018 #2
Oh, please. Colonels, generals, admirals, and naval captains don't get promoted Glorfindel May 2018 #3
War does not accelerate promotion hack89 May 2018 #4
Some will, and as a Marine I've seen my CO, a Captain at the time helmedon1974 May 2018 #5
I support the troops no matter what. This isn't their fault. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #6
I will always support the troops and want them safe from illegal and immoral wars. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #8
Iran will still honor the nuclear deal with the other parties, and is in talks with Russia and China still_one May 2018 #9
Exactly. roamer65 May 2018 #12
That, and.... Xolodno May 2018 #16
Trump is also being cheered on spartan61 May 2018 #10
iran will win. it is not Iraq. nt msongs May 2018 #11
Within months, there will be Russian and Chinese forces in Iran. roamer65 May 2018 #13
But the propaganda rolls off the tongues so easily superpatriotman May 2018 #14
I don't think there will be boots on the ground in this one MiniMe May 2018 #15
What a terrible thing to say -- RandomAccess May 2018 #17
Because what's another 17 years of war anyway TeamPooka May 2018 #18
I will not support the troops the way teump wants me to DonCoquixote May 2018 #19
exactly TeamPooka May 2018 #20
support slaughtering the troops! 90-percent May 2018 #21
 

helmedon1974

(92 posts)
7. We volunteer to serve our country, not for specific wars.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:09 PM
May 2018

Trump said the same thing about the soldiers ambushed on an unauthorized mission in Niger. They knew what they signed up for. No, we don't sign up for that.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,982 posts)
2. Any sane thinking General in the Armed Forces.......
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:56 PM
May 2018

Should tell Donald Trump "No sir. We are not going to send our best to die for your stupid war."

They would be Patriots in my eyes.

Glorfindel

(10,175 posts)
3. Oh, please. Colonels, generals, admirals, and naval captains don't get promoted
Tue May 8, 2018, 09:59 PM
May 2018

unless there's a war. Patriots or not, none of them will say such a thing. They don't give a rat's ass about who dies. The only thing that matters is making rank.

 

helmedon1974

(92 posts)
5. Some will, and as a Marine I've seen my CO, a Captain at the time
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

refuse an order. This was in the 90s though, when we hadn't been at war for 17 years.

 

still_one

(98,883 posts)
9. Iran will still honor the nuclear deal with the other parties, and is in talks with Russia and China
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:10 PM
May 2018

to be part of it the Iran nuclear accords

There is a good likely hood that the US will lose any influence in Iran, and no longer are entitled to any input to any their nuclear program. They unilaterally walked away from it

It is now between Europe, Iran, and more st likely Russia and China

The US has made themselves irrelevant

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
12. Exactly.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:41 PM
May 2018

The Russians, Chinese and the EU will trade with Iran and ignore US sanctions.

The Chinese want Iranian oil and they now have all they want of it. Iran will start accepting payment in Euro, Yuan and Rubles. Good bye petrodollar.

Xolodno

(7,368 posts)
16. That, and....
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:28 PM
May 2018

...where are our troops going to invade from? Looking at the nations around Iran, I don't see any of them welcoming us in for an invasion into Iran, and that includes Iraq and Afghanistan. We could stage forces in Iraq and then move across Syria, but that just sets up the battlefield in Syria.

spartan61

(2,091 posts)
10. Trump is also being cheered on
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:11 PM
May 2018

by John Bolton. He has been hoping for a war for a long time and now it looks like he will get his wish. Of course Bolton has never been in the military. He could have dropped out of college during Viet Nam and joined. Then he could see what war is really like. It's not like playing Battleship. I'm so sick of trump and his disgusting administration!

roamer65

(37,974 posts)
13. Within months, there will be Russian and Chinese forces in Iran.
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:47 PM
May 2018

Along with missiles and aircraft.

Iran is going to become a satellite of the Sino-Russian alliance.

If our troops set foot inside Iran, it will be World War 3.

superpatriotman

(6,882 posts)
14. But the propaganda rolls off the tongues so easily
Tue May 8, 2018, 10:50 PM
May 2018

State sponsors...

Hezbolllah...

Instability...

Etc.

All bullshit workshopped in neocon think tanks

MiniMe

(21,883 posts)
15. I don't think there will be boots on the ground in this one
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:21 PM
May 2018

It will be Nukes, because you know tRump and Bolton can't wait to use Nukes.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
17. What a terrible thing to say --
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:41 PM
May 2018

it's not like THEY decide where we go to war. They're innocent in the matter, and don't really have the ability to opt out.

Someone upthread says they're all volunteers -- yes, but their enlistment is for a period of years, a contract they can't get out of.

We made the grave mistake not to support our troops when we protested Vietnam, and it was a grievous error. Don't make that mistake again.

 

TeamPooka

(25,577 posts)
18. Because what's another 17 years of war anyway
Tue May 8, 2018, 11:55 PM
May 2018

By not supporting them being deployed there I think it actually means I am supporting them in the best way possible and not using them Willy Milly for some neocons wet dream

DonCoquixote

(13,980 posts)
19. I will not support the troops the way teump wants me to
Wed May 9, 2018, 02:29 AM
May 2018

because I know that will harm them more, I will make sure the VA gets them the benfitd they deserve for beign used as toys for big stupid boys,

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