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hlthe2b

(102,119 posts)
1. she'll get a pass on that since some refer to the first plane they saw on tv...
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:21 AM
May 2018

Not defending.. just sayin...

George II

(67,782 posts)
2. bush did the same thing, twice. He said "when I saw the first plane I thought that was....
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:23 AM
May 2018

....a bad pilot. Then when I saw the second I knew we were under attack."

mercuryblues

(14,521 posts)
7. Wasn't he in a Florida
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:01 AM
May 2018

classroom, reading My Pet Goat when the 1st one hit? So even if it was shown on TV, he would not have seen it.

George II

(67,782 posts)
8. Exactly - in December 2001 he was giving a speech and said he was in a back room at the school...
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:32 AM
May 2018

...when he SAW the first plane hit. That is an obvious falsehood.

No one knew that was going to happen, so there were no cameras trained on the WTC.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
10. If Bush had been a real president...
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:14 PM
May 2018

“Kids, I apologize but something urgent has come up. I’ll be back as soon as I can.”

Bluesaph

(703 posts)
4. I think this is misspeaking
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:34 AM
May 2018

Like maybe she meant the tower having been hit by the first plane. We should not split hairs. Save our energy for the good stuff.

marble falls

(56,997 posts)
6. Well you can bet theres footage the intellegence had that the public didn't get to see until....
Wed May 9, 2018, 10:50 AM
May 2018

a day later. You can bet that CIA had an office associated with recruiting sources and operations regarding foreign intelligence mining going on in and around the WTC.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
9. Not a lie - just a misstatement
Wed May 9, 2018, 11:48 AM
May 2018

Everyone conflated what they saw repeatedly on 911 on TV with what they later learned happened. Even the people in NY or NJ who could have seen what happened, it was really hard to take in and process in their minds. (I lived in NJ and knew people who worked either right across the Hudson or in NYC) I turned off the TV realizing that I did not want to see the plane hitting the WTC again or the collapse.

The word "knew" is a problem -- as a CIA officer she had an educated guess that it was OBL, but there is no way she had the knowledge that it was OBL.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. As if that was something serious
Wed May 9, 2018, 12:31 PM
May 2018

Come on, we can't go around calling out a lie on something that insignificant. I'll give you a for-instance: When Al Gore talked about going down to view a disaster area as vice president, something he did quite often, he mentioned that one of his aides had been with him. Now, while that aide had accompanied Gore on quite a few of these trips, that aide wasn't on that particular visit. The popular media knew that that was a sterling example of what a liar Gore was, how terrible he'd be for the country if he became president, and the clear and present danger his candidacy posed to our beloved country.

You just have to know what's important, and what it's okay to call a lie.

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