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I lost a friend recently to cancer.
Because he is not old and had no business whatsoever dying this young, it is different to deal with than a parent or someone older.
When I see something on TV that reminds me of him I think how he can not enjoy that anymore or how I cant tell him about it anymore.
We all have SO much to be grateful for just being alive, yet the way it works is we rarely are cognizant of that, at least I am not.
Anyway, here is to any friend or relative YOU have lost and here is to my friend
edit:
In honor of my friend I want to respond to everyone. And more than that I want to encourage us to have this discussion anytime someone needs it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And for you.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Ohiogal
(31,963 posts)really makes you appreciate life's little things, and really makes you aware of what's important and what's not.
I'm sorry for your loss, Eliot.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)My condolences for the loss of your friend.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)mcar
(42,298 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)mcar
(42,298 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)sheshe2
(83,728 posts)Sadly we lose some.
True Dough
(17,301 posts)I have a friend who is enduring terminal brain and lung cancer. He posts updates on social media a few times a week. What's most remarkable is how upbeat he remains despite the harsh reality. So many of us are distraught over his fate, but he puts on a brave face. I only hope I can exhibit that sort of stoicism and character if I get stuck with a prolonged demise.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)bone cancer and I heard his wife was making him TURKEY hot dogs because he was craving that even though chemo made him not hungry most of the time.
I went out and bought some NATHAN'S all beef hot dogs and embarrassed his wife into NEVER buying turkey dogs again and I got the report back that he LOVED them.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)R B Garr
(16,950 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)oasis
(49,370 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)brer cat
(24,555 posts)Life is something we often take for granted. Take care, friend.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Glorfindel
(9,726 posts)and here's to you, too!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)It is definitely different to deal with when someone we care about dies young.
My last husband (prior to this one) was my soul mate. He died at 38. I was actually angry at complete strangers I would see who weren't taking full advantage of the fact that they were alive. Even then I knew my anger was irrational, but that's the way it was. Of course I never said anything to them. That was 25 years ago, and I still look at things that happen in life from the "well, at least it's not death" point of view.
The experience made me value what I have instead of lamenting what I don't have, for the most part, anyway. We do all have so much to be grateful for, even on our dark days.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)I didn't mean to do a "I know how you feel" thing, but just to convey that the many feelings that you have when you lose a friend/loved one who died young are valid and normal.
I know it hurts to lose a loved one at any age, but it's just different when they're young. Like you said.
And death does suck, but I think it also can make us value our relationships. Death teaches us not to take people for granted.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I think it is bringing us closer together...
Zoonart
(11,845 posts)Between August and December of 2017, I went to six funerals, relatives and two friends. Death does indeed suck, but we are not made to last.
Make every moment count.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)Everything you've said is so true.
Three years ago, I lost a fellow DUer, a very close friend, WCGreen and I still miss him. He was intensely alive as well as political, and I know he would have had intelligent things to say about the mess we find ourselves in.
The pain is no longer excruciating but now and then........it can be very hard. We had so many good conversations.
Cheers to you and your friend! May your good memories help you heal. And they will........eventually.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)We can't control life and death, but we can control ourselves. Being grateful for being alive, for being American, for living in the 21st century, for friends, for family, for things, for air, for plants, for animals....that's something NO ONE can take from us.
One day, we'll be grateful that that giant Effwad in the White House and all his Effwad compatriots are behind bars, or worst case scenario, out of office and out of our lives.
Until then, more strength to you, and stay grateful. It's the right place to be.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)last Saturday. All of us, but especially the kids, are trying to process this. He was terminal, but decided to deal with things himself, rather than let nature take its course.
Very sorry for your loss Elliott.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)ollie10
(2,091 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)Heres to you and your friend and to all of us who know that cancer stinks.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)I hope for and end to that person's pain. My family and friends have been in so much pain and have no quality of life that most of them look forward to relief, even if that means death. I always wish for them whatever they wish for themselves and support their desires. Of course I am sad and filled with grief, but it makes me feel better that they get their wish, whatever that is. Dealing with the loss is horrible and I feel very badly for you.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)catbyte
(34,367 posts)I lost my husband too young to Type I DM in 2014. I miss him every day, so I know something of what you're feeling. Here's to remembering the good times with our absent loved ones.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)catbyte
(34,367 posts)Stuart G
(38,414 posts)and sorry for the loss of your friend...
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.Stuart
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Snackshack
(2,541 posts)I agree 100%. Death sucks. During the last ten years illness/age has taken my mother / father / grandmother / grandfather.
I also agree it is an odd path the mind takes (at least in my case it has been) in processing/ internalizing the loss of a loved one and reconciling that loss and the new reality it brings. My mother was in her early 50s and her passing is still hard to accept. My father/ grandmother/ grandfather were all in their late 80s and while all those losses still hurt, acceptance has been much easier to find.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)may he still be on the journey.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)Im here to share a secret,
Im not who Ive always been,
The world that lies stretched out before me,
Is not the only one Ive seen,
Ive travelled on the tails of comets,
Ive burned up in the heart of stars,
Ive been spat out of supernovas,
That left me scattered near and far,
I have dined in distant galaxies,
And taught the birds to sing,
Ive danced for a whole lifetime,
Upon Saturns dusty rings,
Ive been here for long enough,
To learn what makes the willow weep,
Ive sung celestial lullabies,
That sent the moon to sleep,
Ive been both the flowing water,
And the stone that blocks its way,
Ive been frozen, Ive been molten,
And Ill be again someday,
Though Ive been a billion things,
This is the first one that can smile,
Im pieces of the universe,
And I lived as a human for a while.
Remember the smiles and the good times.
That is our eternal life.
When we remember others that have changed
We keep them alive.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Who wrote that?
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)But alive or changed in form the sentiment holds true.
We are of all things and will return in kind.
Eliot, this is from a lifetime atheist. Nature is what we all are.
I suffer your loss with you, my friend.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)how easy someone can come and go and have often so little to show for it no matter how hard they worked. As in so little is known of what they accomplished.
Unless they have some sick level of media attention like a criminal like Rump has, the person wont get the appreciation they truly deserve.
N_E_1 for Tennis
(9,713 posts)No ones life is ever non-significant. The pure fact that you posted is an example of how much that person meant to you. Enjoy the life and how it may have changed or impacted your life then carry that on.
Just by posting you, Eliot, have taken me to places that I have put on a dusty shelf.
Credit that, at very least, to your friend.
They are times and memories I needed to remember and cherish they will in these troubled times keep me alive.
I only can hope after you grieve you can also use memories of the changed to inhance your life.
As a little history, Im 65, lost most of my family, lost many, many friends in the Vietnam war.
We will find each other again, we are energy, which cannot be destroyed.
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)Rorey
(8,445 posts)Thank you for posting that.
TalenaGor
(1,104 posts)92 years of love and laughter - she was mostly fine then went into the hospital on 4/19 and died 4/26 - that fast....im still recovering...
but she brought us peace, or at least me - she had told us for years she was ready to go anytime - she wasn't afraid in the least...then when the doctor came in and asked 'would you like stronger antibiotics, but it may not work and if it does, this will happen again soon, or would you like comfort care?' - she chose comfort care - she chose to let go - and in her last days she was smiling, laughing and surrounded by her family.....
I suppose that's the best we can hope for....
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Bettie
(16,086 posts)I will think on your words next time I'm frustrated by the people in my life.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Maybe together, with this kind of love and attitude, we can make right the wrongs!
Kurt V.
(5,624 posts)as our friend mr. vonnegut might have said 'thank you Eliot Rosewater for being you. so it goes.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)We are for friends, even some who weren't really friends at all, who died too young, some very long ago now.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)outrage the traitor said or the new show I know he would like that I have to tell him about.
He was an actor earlier in life, Hollywood.
appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)and poignant. We often don't appreciate life's wonderful gifts all around us, until a major loss.
In the 90s we lost our little brother in NY, just 35. Joyous, bright and far too young and alive. His absence is still felt.
All the best during this difficult time for you and yours.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)What a tough loss that must have been.
No matter how long ago, I am sure it hurts to this day.
thanks
LiberalLoner
(9,761 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)I'll lift a glass to ya' both this evening. "To absent friends---"
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)He was the calm diplomat and I was the outraged and pissed off asshole!
panader0
(25,816 posts)At age 67, I have already lost many of my friends, all of them younger than 67 at the
time of their death. My oldest friend of over 40 years hit me hard--I think of him daily.
I basically have a new set of friends now.....
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)nini
(16,672 posts)it sucks.. but she was ready and had a good full life. But it still sucks.
Sorry for your loss!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)He died of cancer three weeks before his sons high school graduation.
Death does suck and you are so right about gratefulness and how I need to remember that.
And I am deeply sorry for your loss. That feeling of wanting to talk to someone you lost is so part of grief.
Peace friend!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)nothing we can do.
I guess we CAN eat better, exercise more and live happier, healthier lives.
If only I would do that! I actually do most of that and look pretty healthy but I need to WALK more!
I say look healthy because sadly I do have heart issues, genetic. But if I behave I should be able to live quite a while.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)That will make up for decades of burning the candle at both ends!
Stay healthy friend. We are an endangered species!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)still_one
(92,116 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Different Drummer
(7,612 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)And, yeah, death really does suck. Obviously, it'll take awhile, but you'll get through it... and as you said, just try to remember all that you have to be grateful for, especially your friendships, and remember too that, yes, it's painful, but only because of all those wonderful memories you have of your friend and you're lucky to have those to hold on to.
So, yes, here's to your friend... clink, clink
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)C Moon
(12,212 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Anon-C
(3,430 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)TNNurse
(6,926 posts)My mother died 27 years ago after a long illness (she was 76). I still want to share books I have read with her and get her stirred up about Democratic politics. My friend Lois died 4 years ago of breast cancer. She was 46, she was diagnosed about 6 months ahead of me. She had a teenage son, a new husband and a new grandchild. I was 62 when I was diagnosed, no kids, but great husband. I struggled with why she got the worst form of breast cancer, fought hard and died anyway and why even though it was an awful life changing experience for me...I am still here.
I got teary thinking about both of them as I type this. Give yourself time, grieve in the way that suits you. Know that many people share and understand.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)In your face, unapologetic crusader for the truth and against child abuse, as she was abused herself.
She would take after the power structure of the Catholic church over that stuff.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Ive had the same thoughts.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)Lois was also a nurse. She knew when she was diagnosed that it was grim, but she fought hard to be with her family. I did not tell her about my diagnosis until the last moment I could. She cried for me. She was loved and respected.
Lars39
(26,109 posts)sdfernando
(4,929 posts)So sorry to hear about your friend.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)DFW
(54,335 posts)Plus my wife has had cancer twice (that we know of--waiting on the biopsies taken last week).
I don't know how much closer to home it has to be before I hate the sound of the word.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)DFW
(54,335 posts)We envy those whose genetics and circumstances have allowed them to escape it altogether.
ashling
(25,771 posts)and my dad 2 years later.
They always say it gets better ... and it does ... marginally ...
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Cha
(297,123 posts)and you're so right.. "death sucks!".
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I am so digging this sense of fellowship...
Cha
(297,123 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)passes seemingly before their time. It just seems so unfair. I hope you are able to find some peace and the support you need to help you through this.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)AmBlue
(3,108 posts)I lost my 52yo younger brother to melanoma last July. It was sudden and unexpected because he didn't want to trouble the rest of the family with it. He thought he would "beat it" and tell us after he was out of the woods. But that didn't happen. I had just 24 hrs before I watched him take his last breath, and never got to hear his voice again.
It tears me up, and always will.
I'm so sorry you lost your friend. I hope we'll all see and experience our beloveds again one day, on another plane.
In the meantime, cherish every single day. Live it well, in the names of those we loved so much, who no longer can.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)My friend was diagnosed with liver cancer and was not a drinker. Docs said it was just a thing of bad luck.
He was not a candidate for chemo and so on.
I myself recently had a scare that turned out to be nothing, but for two weeks I didnt know. Crazy stuff.
BTW it is not uncommon for men, usually, to not seek medical help when they should, to think they can deal with it. Like your situation. I have another friend who has bone cancer, dont recall the name of the cancer and he ignored a major illness for a long time having not gone to a Dr. in over 15 years thinking he could handle it. Then when he finally did have to break down and go in to see a DR they told him what it was.
He now has a very far gone stage that maybe didnt have to happen. Sad.
AmBlue
(3,108 posts)Watching them slip away. So simple, yet so profound. Just a gradual slowing of everything in the body, until the body can no longer sustain its various systems.
Everything... Just.... Stops......
Then we that are left behind must find a way to cope. And nothing prepares you for it.
I also lost my 86yo Dad-- my biggest fan-- last year to heart disease, just 2 1/2 months after my brother. Also awful and terribly sad. He fought so valiantly. But that was different. He was 86 and we had plenty of time to say our goodbyes.
Sudden, unexpected loss of someone dear and too young is the hardest on your heart. And I agree guys can be hard-headed and a tad too macho about thinking they can "handle" shit like this. My brother was a funny, sweet, tough dude. But shit like this don't give a shit how tough you are.
Glad your scare turned out to be nothing.
Blessings my friend. Thank you for allowing me to share.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I have a lot of experience in 12 steps and god do I hate that word, or I used to.
But I digress, thanks again and I hope we can all talk about this more often.
malaise
(268,885 posts)so live and celebrate life while we shed tears for those who die.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)murielm99
(30,730 posts)I am glad you had your friend and sorry he died. It is so wrong when they are just NOT THERE any more.
Yes, we should be grateful just to be alive. Life is too short.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Hamlette
(15,411 posts)My best friend died at age 43. She was found dead in her bed. No prior signs or illness. They did tests for 6 months in an effort to find a cause of death but never did.
I was devastated. My Dad died 4 months before she did and it really shook me but I survived, for a time.
Six months after she died, not long after we learned the last ditch effort to find a cause of death found nothing, I started having panic attacks. I would fall asleep and in that half asleep, half awake state I would think my heart stopped beating. After that, I couldn't get back to sleep. My doc gave me something for it and I recovered.
All this just to say it can hit you later. Get help if you need it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)good info, thanks
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)He took himself to the VA hospital on July 30 with shortness of breath (which I thought was just his COPD) and pains across his shoulders and upper back, was admitted, diagnosed the next day with Stage 4 lung cancer, and was dead by August 17.
He had lived with us since January 1999. So I miss him a lot.
I'm really sorry for your loss too, Eliot.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)someone learns from this DONT ignore symptoms!
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)The difference is, he was ready to go. He had, in fact, told his nephew (my son) that he had nothing really to live about 2 years prior (source of mild guilt for me there) And thankfully, after his diagnosis, was very sanguine and peaceful about it. That made it considerably easier in many ways for all of us.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)My husband died from cancer 15 months ago. He was 69. I miss him. I have a nice picture of him beside where I sit. I talk to him. It is comforting.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I am so glad I talked about this, I think we need to talk about it.
Thank YOU
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)all part of me. Do you mean more of us should talk about losses? Yes, we should. It has taken me many tries to be stoic and keep moving along the path of this life.
Celebrate your friend. Enjoy the memories you have. If you see something he would have liked, maybe seeing it is a message that he is thinking of you. If I see purple angels, I say 'Hi,Mom.'
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)reasons, but in addition I guess I am looking for a better way to deal with loss and I guess if I am honest, my own mortality.
Marthe48
(16,932 posts)Topics>Support Groups>Bereavement
I posted on that one, and also Topics>Health>Cancer Support when John was sick.
I got a lot of support. Since they were both on DU, I didn't have to worry about filtering any comments I posted or read. I got really good support.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Marthe48
(16,932 posts)GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)has just begun my friend. Not trying to be an ahole. People make a bigger impact on us than we surmise. AND, what's worse is, THAT'S something we forget too. The friend you have a 2 bit grudge match going on with, so you write them off. The parent who pisses you off to the point of dismissing them. (All the while having the upper emotional hand bc we know when the rubber meets the road, they'll almost always rescue you.). We live such different lives than before.
Not sure I'd want my kid to go to a school that even allows cellphones anymore. School should be an 8 hour socialization gig. I think we are losing our humanity.
Do something your friend would've wanted you to do. Maybe take a book and go sit w him and read. Read it aloud even.
I'm sorry about your chum. Glad you spoke up.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)I cant lecture people on what an asshole Wayne Madsen is or Alex Jones so I will buy a homeless person lunch, instead. All things my friend would do.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)hotrod0808
(323 posts)to you and to his family.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,583 posts)She passed last Thursday ... I understand how you feel.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)I've had a few leave the stage too early, and now I've reached the age where you start expecting it.
Life has been a wonderful ride, and I am certain to have no complaints about it. Here's to living this life.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)iluvtennis
(19,844 posts)mind. That's how they live on in our memories and sharing those memories with others.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)Sorry for your loss.
And yes, it is all to easy to forget how incredibly lucky we are to be alive, esp. considering the incredibly hostile, cold, frozen, dark, empty vacuum that is 99.9999999% of the universe. Life is a GD MIRACLE, which for all any of us knows, has never reached the point that humanity it is now at in the 6,000,000,000 years this (version of) a virtually endless universe has existed.
Certainly when you consider the intersection with such vastness of TIME, and the fact human civilization is such a tiny, tiny, tiny window in the calendar of the universe, it's extremely possible IMHO that human beings on the planet Earth are the only advanced sentient life AT THIS MOMENT ... in the entire universe ... which consists of as many stars as there are grains of sand on all the beaches of the world.
Human life is indeed VASTLY under-appreciated. And WAY more fragile as an overall concept than most realize.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Petosky Stone
(52 posts)n/a
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)wonkwest
(463 posts)I've had a lot in my family and friend circles. And the difference is, I've always looked forward to the next day. No matter how bad today may have been, maybe tomorrow will be better. How my brain is wired.
But where I have always said, "Let tomorrow be the next day." I've had too many people in life who've said, "Let tomorrow be the last day."
And that is, so so hard. You want everyone you love to stay. But sometimes they don't. And it all seems so, so unfair.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)bitterross
(4,066 posts)My best friend in the world died so very young. He passed away because the partner he trusted was not worthy of that trust. The fucked part of it is that my best friend in the world succumbed to the disease while his cheating partner still lives.
I don't cry often, but some times there will be a shot out of nowhere on TV, a movie, or in someone else's laugh - their demeanor - that will just floor me. Then I have to think of him again. I cry, then I have to laugh when I think of all the stupid shit we did together that always left us laughing.
Laughing at each-other - that's how I like to remember.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)FunkyLeprechaun
(2,383 posts)I lost my 29 year old cousin in September and just today I found out my uncle died of a heart attack.
Life is short.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)NNadir
(33,512 posts)Last edited Thu May 10, 2018, 09:35 PM - Edit history (1)
And that is that you cannot die unless you have lived.
I will die hereafter and how people will feel about it will be a reflection of how I have lived.
Your grief, as sad as it makes you is a reflection of the fact that your friend, however shortly he did so, lived well.
Sincerest sympathy.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)thanks for sharing
Cary
(11,746 posts)Yeah, death just sucks. No way around it.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I've been grieving the loss of my wife and soulmate since last September.
However, for me at least it's worth keeping in mind that for some people death is preferable to the life they have. My wife was one of those. Her body was such non-terminal wreckage that when the diagnosis of Stage III ovarian cancer came, on her 65th birthday, she welcomed it with enormous relief. She called it her "get out of jail free" card. She took no treatment, and opted for a medically assisted death as soon as her affairs were in order. She welcomed her death with eagerness, curiosity and grace.
I fully supported her decision, and in her place I'd have made the same choice - but I still grieve the loss of her love. And when I'm grateful, it's not just for being alive. It's for being able to appreciate being alive. Because when that appreciation is gone, it's no longer living, it's death-in-life.
I don't mean to piss in your cornflakes, because I really sympathize with your feelings. I'm just suggesting not to use so broad a brush that anyone who feels otherwise is made wrong.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)PJMcK
(22,025 posts)Either way, death is a lousy part of our brief existence.
It's the mark of a good life when a person is remembered fondly as we do with those we've lost.
Peace.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)We grew up together, but I had moved to a town 50 miles away in recent years. I went over and treated him to dinner shortly before he died and in retrospect I'm thankful that I got to see him then and have one last good time. I just wish I had understood the gravity of the moment. Maybe that's a clue for me to be more aware and fully present in all of my life, and to always be truly appreciative of the people I love. Without them I wouldn't know love. I wouldn't have learned how to love.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)asked if I wanted her to wake him up so I could say hi, I said no, didnt want to bother him.
He died a few hours later, I regret not saying goodbye.
Tobin S.
(10,418 posts)I hope you can find some peace in this time of heartache.
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)The older we get, the more grateful we are!
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)bdamomma
(63,836 posts)must have valued your friendship, it's hard to loose someone. My sympathy to you.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Although my parents both lived long lives, I can certainly relate to your feelings of being suddenly caught short by something that reminded me of them or that they would have loved if I could have shared with them. My parents were both very good people but my dad especially had a purity of spirit that made me feel that a light was being extinguished and it motivated me to try to be a better person (unsuccessfully most of the time, I'm afraid) because it felt that otherwise there would be a net loss of goodness in the world. Maybe honoring your friend by intentionally doing something in his spirit that he would have done would help you when you feel sad. That could be donating to a charity or volunteering for a cause he supported, traveling in his honor to somewhere he never got to go or having an adventure he would have liked, etc. I traveled to India (for unrelated reasons) while I was still mourning my dad, and while on a dawn boat ride down the Ganges I set a little coconut shell candle afloat on the river while thinking of him with all of my spirit as a symbolic gesture. Shortly after my mom died, I was hiking in a stunningly beautiful national park in the Tibetan plateau at a very high elevation, and sang the Doxology in her honor and memory (because, despite several years of decline with dementia, she was still able to sing it in church on the last Sunday of her life, just short of her 94th birthday). I have a very dear relative, age 10, who has a terrible type of cancer that is classified as "terminal on diagnosis" but she is hanging in there with extraordinary grace and cheerfulness. Her mom recently sent me a picture of her at the beach, smiling in her little straw hat that covered her bald-from-chemo head, next to the message she had written in the wet sand: NEGU (for "Never, Ever Give Up" ). I am hoping and praying for a medical breakthrough for her and now too for your other friend with bone cancer. I am sure he appreciates your hot dog blessings! Another mantra I have taken in during my little relative's treatment for cancer is Nobody Fights Alone! You are right to let your DU friends know about this.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Best hopes for your friend
Iggo
(47,547 posts)Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)WiffenPoof
(2,404 posts)I'm so sorry Eliot. It's going to be rough for a while.
I lost my mother a couple of years ago. She was probably the meanest person I have ever met. She was bipolar and almost impossible to get along with. I won't share with you some of her antics and behavior. It is simply too cruel to write about.
When she died, I shed not a tear.
As it turned out, I ended up with her little dog. No one else would take her. Little Willow is partially crippled and it is sad to watch her try and walk across a slick floor. You see my mom would often pick out dogs that had physical or mental problems. Willow is no different.
Over the past two years I have come to love this little dog and all her problems. She gets up every day wagging her tail as if she had the greatest life one could ever hope for.
No one knows exactly how old Willow is. However it is clear that she is up in years and will soon be gone. When she goes, I know I will weep for days. Not only because Willow will be gone but because it will be the last of my mother. Nothing will remain.
In a way, they were both crippled. They shoot horses don't they?
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)like that but as you said, crippled or handicapped or whatever the word is.
Thanks for sharing.