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egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:21 PM May 2018

As Republicans surge, Ralph Nader turn the screws on Democrats (VIDEO)

It gives me no pleasure in saying I told you so for absent a blue wave, it is clear that a resurgent Republican Party will materially harm the personal economies of most Americans. But this wound is self-inflicted, and there is not much time to fix. Ralph Nader hits the nail on the head. Democrats better heed the warning. We must no keep our heads in the sand lest we will suffer defeat.

https://egbertowillies.com/2018/05/11/ralph-nader-shames-democrats/

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As Republicans surge, Ralph Nader turn the screws on Democrats (VIDEO) (Original Post) egbertowillies May 2018 OP
Here's a less ad-laden way to see this video: MineralMan May 2018 #1
Thanks, I wont go to the site this thread OP has because I dont understand why they Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #3
Thank you MineralMan awesomerwb1 May 2018 #16
I have. Once. MineralMan May 2018 #17
my antivirus wont let me go to his / her website . stonecutter357 May 2018 #30
Well, that's a clue, I think. MineralMan May 2018 #31
just tried again and mcafee went crazy . stonecutter357 May 2018 #32
I never click on such click-bait sites. MineralMan May 2018 #33
Nader MFM008 May 2018 #2
Thanks for posting alwaysinasnit May 2018 #4
...or nader is full of shit. spanone May 2018 #20
Sadly... CanSocDem May 2018 #5
Nader help bring about the conditions that lead to Trump standingtall May 2018 #8
No, he didn't. CanSocDem May 2018 #12
Those things can only be fixed by winnig elections standingtall May 2018 #14
You're grasping.......(eom) CanSocDem May 2018 #15
I stand with StandingTall genxlib May 2018 #25
No, Nader was not warning us of Trump. He was claiming that both parties were equally corrupt and Nitram May 2018 #9
Post removed Post removed May 2018 #13
Nader helped create the environment that gave us Trump. NCTraveler May 2018 #19
When the 3rd party includes the likes of Jill Stein, we can and will point the finger. Nt OrlandoDem1 May 2018 #6
Fuck Ralph Nader. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #7
There is nothing Ralph Nader could say that is of interest to me or most Democrats. nt stevenleser May 2018 #10
Nader always jumps in when it will help the republicans. I wonder why???????? demigoddess May 2018 #11
I thought we supported Democrats on DU... MineralMan May 2018 #18
Fuck Ralph Nader!!! workinclasszero May 2018 #21
Troll NCTraveler May 2018 #22
"It gives me no pleasure in saying I told you so" nini May 2018 #23
You seriously don't understand Nader's long term animus against Democrats grantcart May 2018 #24
This is no surge. RandySF May 2018 #26
wow you bash the Democratic party every day , why is that ? stonecutter357 May 2018 #27
This is spam RandySF May 2018 #28
my antivirus wont let me go to your website ! stonecutter357 May 2018 #29
Spam. All you do is direct traffic to your website... SidDithers May 2018 #34
Nader is really a Republican. OhZone May 2018 #35
F**k Ralh Nader and those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic still_one May 2018 #36
Go Away DarthDem May 2018 #37

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. Thanks, I wont go to the site this thread OP has because I dont understand why they
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:30 PM
May 2018

are allowed to do this, makes me angry but my vote doesnt count

Anyway, fuck Nader and if there isnt a Blue Wave none of this will matter, we will be a Nazi state.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
31. Well, that's a clue, I think.
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:45 PM
May 2018

Some ad companies are sneaky. They look for sites that aren't paying attention, and post ads that contain malware on those sites. That's probably what your anti-virus software detected.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
33. I never click on such click-bait sites.
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

Never. I'm protected, but it's a hassle dealing with malware-bearing ads.

alwaysinasnit

(5,063 posts)
4. Thanks for posting
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:31 PM
May 2018

Thanks for sounding the alarm. I am afraid that the current Democratic leadership is still "business as usual" and not listening to those on the ground.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
5. Sadly...
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:34 PM
May 2018

...Trump is what Nader was warning you about decades ago and now that he has been proven right, many don't want to listen.


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standingtall

(2,785 posts)
8. Nader help bring about the conditions that lead to Trump
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:42 PM
May 2018

in the first place by helping Bush steal the election in 2000.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
12. No, he didn't.
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:53 PM
May 2018

The mold for a 'puppet president' was cast long before Bush. Nader was warning you this would happen probably before you were born. It is why he created Public Citizen....to protect idiotic Americans from voting for the corporations and against their own interests.

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standingtall

(2,785 posts)
14. Those things can only be fixed by winnig elections
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:59 PM
May 2018

Nader cost us Florida in 2000. Which lead to Bush appointing John Roberts to the supreme court. Which got us citizens united which got us much more dark money in politics. Which helped Russians interfere in our election which got us Trump. So yes Nader helped to create the conditions that gave us Trump.

genxlib

(5,524 posts)
25. I stand with StandingTall
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:38 PM
May 2018

To hell with that guy.

Once upon a time he served a purpose but after a while he started doing more harm than good.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
9. No, Nader was not warning us of Trump. He was claiming that both parties were equally corrupt and
Fri May 11, 2018, 02:47 PM
May 2018

indebted to corporations. False equivalency up the wazoo, IMO. If Gore had won, we wouldn't have invaded Iraq, we wouldn't have opened Gitmo, we wouldn't have engaged in torture. We might have headed off the 9/11 attack, because Clinton's administration was clearly tuned to the danger of bin Laden. Thanks for nothing, Ralph.

Response to Nitram (Reply #9)

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. Nader helped create the environment that gave us Trump.
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:16 PM
May 2018

There is simply no valuable argument to the contrary.

But some here will go all go-go over this poster. The same poster who claimed Trump was going to bring us single payer. Willie was big on the normalizing Trump train early.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Troll
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018
Democrats, be careful, Trump may beat you to single-payer Medicare for all

Democrats should not be playing defense now. A defensive stance does not give the impression to constituents that one's fighting for them. With the demise of Trumpcare and Obamacare under stress in many parts of the country, this is the time for Democrats to come out in full support of a transition to single-payer Medicare for all.

Donald Trump is an out of the box politicians who may surprise Democrats and pull victory out of the defeat of the current iteration of Trumpcare. It would not be surprising if Trump made the following calculus. Obamacare is expensive. Republicans have failed to come up with a viable plan. I (Trump) will now send to Congress my single-payer Medicare for all scheme. Do not for one moment believe this is an impossibility.

First, single-payer Medicare for all is polling very well. President Trump needs to boost his overall poll numbers. Donald Trump voters have a tendency to twist themselves into pretzels to justify whatever change in position he presents. His core voters will be with him.

In an attempt to get a win at any cost Trump recently claimed that single-payer would bankrupt the country. But he has been all over the place on single-payer. As recent as May, he pointed out to the Australian Prime Minister that his single payer health care system was better than America's health care system.


Can be found at the same site linked in the op. Not going to put up another link to the site. Written by the op. He was in early on the crazy Trump might do great things, Democrats are in trouble.

nini

(16,672 posts)
23. "It gives me no pleasure in saying I told you so"
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:21 PM
May 2018

surreeee

Hit and run post. If you're going to post this shit have the balls to back it up.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. You seriously don't understand Nader's long term animus against Democrats
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

How he lied about his election strategy and duped people into believing that he was only campaigning to get a message out and not interested in changing the outcome.

You don't have a clear understanding that group cohesion is essential in battling powerful nihilistic forces and modern electoral history.

There are other sites that cater to your style of self promotion. You obviously aren't interested in dialogue as you never contribute to any other discussion and just post here to get links to your ad generating site.

I almost never use ignore but you really have earned it.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
34. Spam. All you do is direct traffic to your website...
Fri May 11, 2018, 03:49 PM
May 2018

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still_one

(92,110 posts)
36. F**k Ralh Nader and those self-identified progressives who refused to vote for the Democratic
Fri May 11, 2018, 05:20 PM
May 2018

nominate new in 2016

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