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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun May 13, 2018, 07:43 AM May 2018

Racist man just berated Muslim woman in coffee shop, immediately got what he deserves (WATCH)




At what appears to be a Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf in California, a virulently racist white man was captured on camera delivering a hate-filled rant to a Muslim woman wearing a burqa.

“Is this Halloween or something?” the man asks in a threatening manner.


[link:https://washingtonpress.com/2018/05/12/racist-man-just-berated-muslim-woman-in-coffee-shop-immediately-got-what-he-deserves-watch/|

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Racist man just berated Muslim woman in coffee shop, immediately got what he deserves (WATCH) (Original Post) Soph0571 May 2018 OP
That guy has NOT read any of the Koran. betsuni May 2018 #1
Or the Bible LiberalFighter May 2018 #24
What I liked cyclonefence May 2018 #2
He was also rattled when she talked back to him. Mariana May 2018 #17
Karma has no menu, it served him what he deserved. FM123 May 2018 #3
If you watch the video, she actually berated him oberliner May 2018 #4
No. She defended herself. Should she not have done that? MineralMan May 2018 #11
No, she berated him oberliner May 2018 #14
She sure did. She did it well. And he deserved every bit of it. Tipperary May 2018 #21
It might have been more heartwarming to have seen her disarm him with love and caring... Orsino May 2018 #27
I hope his sneering, hate-filled face is printed and distributed throughout the entire community. NBachers May 2018 #5
Yup, somebody's about to become internet famous gratuitous May 2018 #28
Bravo to the brave woman for taking him on, mcar May 2018 #6
Yes. They all did good. I think he was surprised. Hortensis May 2018 #39
Loved the random guy ejbr May 2018 #7
... Scurrilous May 2018 #40
You know, if you are a right wing nutjob Bettie May 2018 #8
Because they are white men The Genealogist May 2018 #20
"Disrupting a public place and being very racist." IronLionZion May 2018 #9
They are bullies and do what bullies do when confronted. RUN. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #10
Why don't I get lucky enough to encounter one of these assholes? NickB79 May 2018 #12
I dislike that he created an ugly situation for everyone NJCher May 2018 #16
Kindness slides off people like that like rain off a duck NickB79 May 2018 #18
Calling out racists by telling them they're racist and have to leave is not making a big ugly scene. WhiskeyGrinder May 2018 #19
it's a requirement in order to make things better gay texan May 2018 #25
I wouldn't pay for somebody's coffee if they'd talked to me like that gollygee May 2018 #29
It feels very good that they refused to serve him. mountain grammy May 2018 #13
rascist fascist nazi pig AKA typical tRumpster nt elmac May 2018 #15
Does Jesus really say to bring all of the unbelievers and kill them? ProfessorPlum May 2018 #22
Hmm. so I did some googling ProfessorPlum May 2018 #23
If he did or didn't... Runningdawg May 2018 #26
oh, if we are talking about how some Christians _act_ ProfessorPlum May 2018 #30
Really just an example of viewing scripture through a warped lens goes both ways Major Nikon May 2018 #31
well, yeah, as hitchens used to say it was only with the advent of Gentle Jesus ProfessorPlum May 2018 #32
I'm not sure one can make such a distinction Major Nikon May 2018 #33
you mean the old testament laws? ProfessorPlum May 2018 #35
Not much different Major Nikon May 2018 #37
It's a distinction with a difference ProfessorPlum May 2018 #38
Fight back! dalton99a May 2018 #34
"I know your religion and I don't want liberalhistorian May 2018 #36
He puts the letter A in asshole! imanamerican63 May 2018 #41
Good for the store not serving him. Xolodno May 2018 #42
Make my day. Kudos to CB&TL. oasis May 2018 #43
Even with all the scrutiny and shaming Blue_Tires May 2018 #44
He certainly instigated it and was much worse mokawanis May 2018 #45
omg. what a hateful man. Kudos to who ever shouted "get the f... out". lol Demovictory9 May 2018 #46

cyclonefence

(4,483 posts)
2. What I liked
Sun May 13, 2018, 08:17 AM
May 2018

was the stunned look on his face when people told him to shut up. Like every RWer I've ever encountered, he assumed that everyone else feels as he does. These guys need to be taught to be ashamed of themselves, and even if they have racist thoughts, they need to learn that it's not OK to voice them. Everything else aside, it's fucking rude.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
17. He was also rattled when she talked back to him.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:42 AM
May 2018

The big strong brave man thought he'd picked a helpless victim who would just shut up and take his abuse. He chose poorly.

Now hoping everyone who knows this creep gets to see this vid.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
11. No. She defended herself. Should she not have done that?
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:27 AM
May 2018

In the end, the racist moron got tossed from the store, thanks to someone there standing up for the woman.

Such incidents happen daily, over and over again, and in all parts of this country. Have you never observed such an incident? I certainly have. I've also played the role of that other customer in the place who stood up to defend the person suffering the attack.

Anyone is completely justified in speaking up for him or herself, or for speaking up in someone else's defense. That's not berating. That's defending.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. No, she berated him
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:35 AM
May 2018

Berate means "scold or criticize (someone) angrily" and that is exactly what she did.

"Are you a Christian? If you're a Christian, let's talk about your Bible. Do you know that your Bible...in your Bible...in your Bible, Jesus says, "bring the people who don't believe to kill them in front of - <then he says "I don't have conversations with idiots" and she continues> - you are committing hate speech. You are committing hate speech against me."

She is scolding/criticizing him angrily which is what berating means - and, to repeat what I wrote in my post, he deserved it.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
27. It might have been more heartwarming to have seen her disarm him with love and caring...
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:07 PM
May 2018

...but she was the target being threatened here, and I don't consider it her responsibility to be much better than he was.

He lost face here, and will lose more each time this video is shared. That's the only loss he cares about, so I am content.

NBachers

(17,096 posts)
5. I hope his sneering, hate-filled face is printed and distributed throughout the entire community.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:05 AM
May 2018

I wonder what city this happened in.

mcar

(42,287 posts)
6. Bravo to the brave woman for taking him on,
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:18 AM
May 2018

to the brave manager for kicking him out and to the patrons for calling him out as the racist he is.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
39. Yes. They all did good. I think he was surprised.
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:51 PM
May 2018

Lol, for sure he belatedly became aware he was about to become widely and permanently known for this.

Bettie

(16,083 posts)
8. You know, if you are a right wing nutjob
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:23 AM
May 2018

no one will know until you open your mouth to say something stupid.

Why do these people feel entitled to say every hateful thing that comes into their heads?

The Genealogist

(4,723 posts)
20. Because they are white men
Sun May 13, 2018, 11:04 AM
May 2018

who are taught their whole lives that they are somehow measurably superior and at the top of the social pecking order, because they were born white men.

IronLionZion

(45,403 posts)
9. "Disrupting a public place and being very racist."
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:25 AM
May 2018


I hope Trump gets served soon...with impeachment.

Even in very liberal places like California we see the dregs of society feel comfortable spewing bigotry out in the open.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
12. Why don't I get lucky enough to encounter one of these assholes?
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:27 AM
May 2018

I'd love to call out a racist like the other customers were doing.

NJCher

(35,643 posts)
16. I dislike that he created an ugly situation for everyone
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:37 AM
May 2018

hey, it was probably morning. Going to order a coffee to start off the day should be a pleasant experience. He ruined it for everyone. I call people out on stuff, but try to do it in a nice way. There has to be a better way of handling this than to make a big, nasty scene. At the moment I cannot think what that would be, however. Well, maybe this:

Maybe she should have gone over and paid for his coffee, smiled at him, and said, "We're not bad people."


NickB79

(19,233 posts)
18. Kindness slides off people like that like rain off a duck
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:45 AM
May 2018

Sometimes assholes are too far gone to save.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,311 posts)
19. Calling out racists by telling them they're racist and have to leave is not making a big ugly scene.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:47 AM
May 2018

gay texan

(2,438 posts)
25. it's a requirement in order to make things better
Mon May 14, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

Darkness hates the light and in this case, a truckload of spotlights was fired up on this jerk....

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
29. I wouldn't pay for somebody's coffee if they'd talked to me like that
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

Why do we always expect people who are oppressed to be sweet and nice to people who are being horrible to them? That is an unreasonable expectation, and I doubt it is at all effective.

And HE is the one who created a scene.

mountain grammy

(26,605 posts)
13. It feels very good that they refused to serve him.
Sun May 13, 2018, 10:33 AM
May 2018

I would like to have seen that earlier in the encounter. Couple of brave women there. Not only the customer, but the server who politely refused to serve him.

He does fit the profile of a mass killer.

ProfessorPlum

(11,254 posts)
23. Hmm. so I did some googling
Mon May 14, 2018, 07:18 AM
May 2018

and in Luke 19, Jesus does indeed speak those words. But it is while telling a parable, and the line seems to be attributable to the "king" in the story, not Jesus himself. But -- it is complicated because presumably the king represents Jesus (or the son of man), and also - it isn't clear to me where the king's words end and Jesus' words begin. A couple more well placed quotation marks could help here, lol.

But it looks like if you had an ax to grind against Christians, this is a more or less valid point of argument.

Runningdawg

(4,514 posts)
26. If he did or didn't...
Mon May 14, 2018, 12:59 PM
May 2018

through the treatment of Native Americans we can see that some Christians took this parable to heart with the blessing of the government. To be a member of the NA church was a crime until 1978.

ProfessorPlum

(11,254 posts)
30. oh, if we are talking about how some Christians _act_
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:45 PM
May 2018

then that is an entirely different story. Murderously intolerant, a lot of them.

To be a member of the NA church was a crime until 1978.

this surprises me. But i suppose it shouldn't.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
31. Really just an example of viewing scripture through a warped lens goes both ways
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:52 PM
May 2018

It's debatable on whether or not Jesus wished death on unbelievers, but he made no mistake about wishing for eternal torture. Seems worse by comparison, assuming one believes the mythology.

ProfessorPlum

(11,254 posts)
32. well, yeah, as hitchens used to say it was only with the advent of Gentle Jesus
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018

meek and mild do we get infinite torture for finite crimes. There could be no more immoral doctrine.

But the distinction between killing unbelievers while on earth and letting god sort them out after people are dead (of natural causes, one hopes) is an important one. Jesus' wheat and chaff, and goats and sheep, get separated after their deaths, not before.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
33. I'm not sure one can make such a distinction
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

Jesus was adamant in his advocacy of the older gospels in which you will find a few references to killing non-believers.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+17%3A2-7&version=ESV

ProfessorPlum

(11,254 posts)
35. you mean the old testament laws?
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:38 PM
May 2018

he did talk about jots and tittles, but that's different from (the literary character of) Jesus saying it directly.

ProfessorPlum

(11,254 posts)
38. It's a distinction with a difference
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:48 PM
May 2018

You can't say Jesus said "don't eat shrimp" .

ah, who cares, Jesus is a literary character created by a group of Greek speaking scribes 50-110 years after his death. No one can say for sure what he said. I was just interested if those words were literally in the bible. And they are, with a few caveats.

liberalhistorian

(20,814 posts)
36. "I know your religion and I don't want
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:42 PM
May 2018

to be killed by you."

Oh, yeah, asshole? Well, I don't wanna be killed by a white madman with a gun, which you are FAR more likely to be. But I guess that wouldn't count as terrorism to you, now, would it? Terrorism is only when the perpetrator has other than white skin.

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
42. Good for the store not serving him.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:33 PM
May 2018

I'm going to have to increase the frequency I purchase coffee and tea from them.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
44. Even with all the scrutiny and shaming
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:43 PM
May 2018

the Nazis and Nazi-lites are getting bolder all the time...

All thanks to Trump

mokawanis

(4,438 posts)
45. He certainly instigated it and was much worse
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:12 PM
May 2018

but I'm not impressed with her response either. Watching the two of them attacking the Koran and Bible was unpleasant.

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