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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:05 AM May 2018

Avenatti addresses the "ambulance chaser" accusations

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To all of those that continue to try and discount me as an "ambulance chaser" or "porn lawyer" - take note. Here is a link to some of the results I have obtained as lead counsel (over $1B). Not a single one listed is a personal injury matter. #basta


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OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
1. I'm not sure if he needed to do that. Now the scum know that they can get at him by attacking his
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:17 AM
May 2018

ability as a lawyer.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
4. Damned if you do damned if you don't
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:37 AM
May 2018

If he didn't say anything they would find a way to spin that.

Bryant

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
17. Funny that we were talking about this yesterday. He reacted to a hit piece by the Daily Caller
Tue May 15, 2018, 07:05 AM
May 2018
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in response to this hit piece

http://dailycaller.com/2018/05/13/michael-avenatti-past-history/

Many of the developments surrounding Stormy Daniels’ lawsuit against President Donald Trump have focused on the business dealings of attorney Michael Cohen, but an investigation by The Daily Caller News Foundation reveals that Daniels’ counsel, Michael Avenatti, has his own questionable history.

Avenatti’s past is littered with lawsuits, jilted business partners and bankruptcy filings. People who have worked with the lawyer described him to TheDCNF as ruthless, greedy and unbothered by ethical questions.

Dillanos Coffee CEO David Morris claimed last Tuesday that Avenatti never paid him for over $160,000 worth of coffee that Dillanos supplied to Avenatti’s company. “So @StormyDaniels hot shot lawyer Michael owes my small company @Dillanos $160,179 for coffee,” Morris wrote on Twitter. “He talks a big talk about integrity. We trusted him.”

SNIP

The Daily Caller News Foundation on Thursday interviewed Avenatti over the phone on several topics including Morris’s accusations, which Avenatti denied. “I don’t owe Dillanos coffee anything. I personally don’t owe them anything,” he said. “So that’s nonsense.”

But just three hours later, Morris announced that he had deleted his original tweet after working out “an arrangement” with Avenatti.

SNIP

Avenatti no longer owns Global Baristas LLC, and said he divested from the company in 2017, but he remains Tully’s general counsel.

MaryMagdaline

(6,851 posts)
2. Yes but it's an opening for him to get potential clients to call
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:21 AM
May 2018

Free advertising. More NDA signers. Perhaps even the woman who received the 1.6 million from trump, ur what's his name

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
3. I would bet good money the GOP has several private detectives trying to dig up dirt on him
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:29 AM
May 2018

at this very moment.

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
13. No doubt about that, at all
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:26 AM
May 2018

If he has a single skeleton in his closet, it will soon be dragged out for all to see.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. (And many names big and small afraid they ARE the dirt.)
Mon May 14, 2018, 12:44 PM
May 2018

I think Avenatti, and by extension Cohen, is a hornet's nest few are really willing to poke.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
7. Every time Rudy insults him is an opening
Mon May 14, 2018, 10:28 AM
May 2018

Gives him a chance to make Rudy seem out of touch.

Rudy’s rants are not helping.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
9. I take offense when people use the term "Ambulance Chaser."
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:07 AM
May 2018

That is a term the insurance Lobby and RW think tanks use to describe attorneys who represent people injured through the negligence or intentional conduct of others. It is the same as their attacks that PI lawyers file all of these "frivolous" lawsuits which helped them to pass draconian tort reform that takes away individuals rights for redress against people/corporations who harm them. It is all part of their programming Americans with their propaganda to distrust and not seek out an attorney when harmed. It is also used to condition jurors not to award money to injured people.

Everyone old enough remembers the McDonald's coffee case, or at least the corporate media's version of the story which was, woman spills hot coffee, sues and wins millions. This case was used to pass tort reform all over the country. The truth was much different.

Stella Liebeck was severely burned trying to take the lid off of her coffee to add cream and sugar. The coffee spilled in her lap, but because McDonald's had decided to super-heat their coffee to get more coffee per bean and stay fresher longer, she almost died. Surgeons had to remove her labia and clitoris. McDonald's knew their hotter coffee was causing second and third degree burns and had confidentially settled several burn cases. Since it was very profitable they continued anyway. The jury awarded one day of coffee sales ($2 million) which the judge reduced to $900,000. McDonald's lowered the temperature of their coffee back to industry standard and the public was protected.

PI attorneys take cases on a contingent fee (percentage of money recovered) because most people cannot afford to pay an hourly rate. This means the attorney gets nothing and eats the money and time they spent developing the case. We represent people who need help. Much of our work helps to protect the public and keep corporations at least somewhat in check. It is getting more difficult to do every year as our rights to seek redress are continually eroded.

Are there disreputable attorneys out there? Absolutely, just as there are disreputable people in every occupation and job in this country. The vast majority are decent, hard working people who get lumped in with the minority to further the ends of the corporations/insurance companies.

Please keep this in mind next time someone throws out the "Ambulance Chaser" label, thanks!

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
10. My attorney is 100% old school
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

I've seen him in a suit and tie ONCE. He complained about it before, during, and after.

He focuses largely on elder law and wills / trusts.

He's helped me on more occasions than I can list here. He's hard-working, dependable, and has interesting listening skills. He normally has a deapan expression, and you think he's not listening, then months later repeats something you said to him, verbatim.

There's a lot more to it than that, of course, but yeah...it's not an easy job when it's done right.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
11. Exactly that!
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:16 AM
May 2018

PI attorneys give at least SOME pause to the actions of potential defendants who know they could end up in a tort case.

The McDonald's case is an excellent example, although I still think the woman deserved the original judgement and more.

Dustlawyer

(10,494 posts)
14. That is the part of the case that bothers me as well.
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:59 AM
May 2018

The judge decided the jury awarded too much money and ordered a reduction. I wonder how much he would value his own bits & pieces if they had to be cut off?

I am really bothered by how much control corporations have over our media due too their advertising money. None of the media outlets reported the case fairly. They left the impression that it was a BS case because of how much money Mickey D's spends in ad dollars.

I watched the media put a blackout on BP oil spill victim stories and pump up BP due to the large amounts of money they spent on ads after the spill. Our country has a lot of serious problems that can only be addressed by Americans uniting to insist on truth in our media and a separation of the business side of the outlets from the content side.

Walter Cronkite we really miss you!

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. As another PI lawyer, I salute you. Great post!
Mon May 14, 2018, 01:19 PM
May 2018

One fact I'll add about the "hot coffee" case: McDonald's took an appeal and then settled with the plaintiff. McDonald's followed the common practice among corporate defendants in demanding, as part of the settlement, that the plaintiff and her lawyer agree to a gag order, preventing them from discussing the case publicly. Thus, one reason that the media gave such preferential treatment to the McDonald's side of the story was that media outlets couldn't get quotations from the people who were in the best position to present the other side.

Let's also recall the mass recall of cars with the ignition lock defect. That didn't occur because General Motors had a corporate conscience. It didn't occur because government regulators detected the problem. It occurred because one of us "ambulance chasing" lawyers, representing the parents of one of the victims, pressed the hell out of the case and laid the whole situation open. There's no telling how many lives that lawyer saved.

I understand why Avenatti wants the nature of his practice to be correctly understood. He doesn't want accident victims coming to him, because he's not experienced in handling those cases. It is unfortunate, though, that some people may read his comment as agreeing with the idea that lawyers who do represent accident victims are somehow disreputable.

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