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raccoon

(31,089 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:25 PM May 2018

In and around Greenville SC, developers are building apartment complexes everywhere.

In and around Greenville SC, developers are building apartment complexes everywhere.

They are building them in the downtown area.

They are building them in the nearby small cities.

They are building them way out in the middle of nowhere on the interstate.

How about your area?

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In and around Greenville SC, developers are building apartment complexes everywhere. (Original Post) raccoon May 2018 OP
Traveler's Rest is being developed all along Main St. Barely recognized it blm May 2018 #1
After decades of being "the wrong side of the tracks" Runningdawg May 2018 #2
Don't worry, the grocery stores will show up fast. Blue_true May 2018 #21
Possibly Runningdawg May 2018 #37
Friend, I have seen this work before. Blue_true May 2018 #38
Yep d_r May 2018 #3
Developers know the cheap money ride is coming to an end elfin May 2018 #4
Yep. nt Blue_true May 2018 #22
Downtown Montgomery, AL is in the midst of gentrification project. yallerdawg May 2018 #5
New York has been at it for years. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #16
Same here in Lakewood, Colorado eleny May 2018 #6
I bet that same house would sell for 1 million in Cali. Prices are through the roof. Demovictory9 May 2018 #9
Yep. Likely more than $1 mil. nt Blue_true May 2018 #23
wow eleny May 2018 #31
St Petersburg Floriduh onethatcares May 2018 #7
I was small, but I remember the Florida rains and lightening storms in the afternoon. Blue_true May 2018 #25
Was just in Greenville recently. MGKrebs May 2018 #8
Downtown Raleigh, NC has become very trendy mnhtnbb May 2018 #10
The reason why North Carolina has become a near purple state. Blue_true May 2018 #26
Newark Delaware is being overrun with apartment buildings. woodsprite May 2018 #11
Where do you want people to live? maxsolomon May 2018 #12
Good grief, I was just making a statement. nt raccoon May 2018 #13
OK, but why? maxsolomon May 2018 #17
One reason we bought our "last house" in Centralia.. SoCalDem May 2018 #18
whew, for a minute there onethatcares May 2018 #32
Oh, we have that too. raccoon May 2018 #41
Ha! That's what studios go for now, if you're lucky. maxsolomon May 2018 #47
Urban areas, with their many amenities, are "gentrifying," Hortensis May 2018 #14
One of these days someone will explain to me the appeal of living in SC Blue_Tires May 2018 #15
mosquitoes?...palmetto bugs? SoCalDem May 2018 #19
It's nice in the winter months. Bonx May 2018 #24
When my kids were smaller, we drove to Florida once Ohiogal May 2018 #28
And you have to monitor every hurricane. Corgigal May 2018 #33
I'm in Virginia Beach so I already do that, lol Blue_Tires May 2018 #36
Many people migrate here from cold states. Lots. It's not unusual raccoon May 2018 #42
Some of the most beautiful coastline in the country. nt B2G May 2018 #45
Sacramento shanti May 2018 #20
I've noticed a certain style - the apartments look like shipping containers stacked on end underpants May 2018 #27
Nashville Tn is no longer Music City. It's Condo City. Lint Head May 2018 #29
That is sacriligious. raccoon May 2018 #44
Denver has ellie May 2018 #30
what shocks me about the Greeville growth is the prices of the condos - particularly downtown ones DrDan May 2018 #34
Western suburban Orlando has seen a massive housing boon Roland99 May 2018 #35
Kingsport, TN here and they're building a lot...rent has skyrocketed. cynatnite May 2018 #39
I wish they would do that here. Codeine May 2018 #40
Massive housing shortage here Texasgal May 2018 #43
These are being built everywhere in Maryland too. Most are ugly, drab boxes on top of each other. Alethia Merritt May 2018 #46

Runningdawg

(4,494 posts)
2. After decades of being "the wrong side of the tracks"
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:35 PM
May 2018

downtown Tulsa is suddenly cool again. The old houses surrounding it are being torn down and replaced with luxury apts that only the rich can afford. Still no grocery store.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
21. Don't worry, the grocery stores will show up fast.
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:13 PM
May 2018

Selling $8 slices of pizza and $10 cups of coffee. It's all about money with grocery stores. The people living in that new development should expect loads of organic pork, chicken and beef for sale and every type of cheese imaginable. Large parts of the store will be devoted to pricey offerings and they will get bought.

Runningdawg

(4,494 posts)
37. Possibly
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:05 AM
May 2018

The people moving into the lux apartments don't want a grocery store downtown. They would rather drive 10 miles to avoid the "undesirables". Then come home, prop their feet up on their 5K couch and complain about people on welfare shopping for unhealthy food at Dollar Stores.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
38. Friend, I have seen this work before.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:06 PM
May 2018

They will get a highend grocery store that has prices so high, only they will have money to shop there. Trust me, I have seen this movie before. Sad, but true.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
4. Developers know the cheap money ride is coming to an end
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:39 PM
May 2018

Have seen this before. Overbuilding when loans are cheap and housing demand seems high. Boom and then bust.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Downtown Montgomery, AL is in the midst of gentrification project.
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:40 PM
May 2018

Old 'public housing' sites,' old warehouse sites, downtown skate park, old retail buildings remodeled. All apartments.

The City knows something the rest of us don't?

eleny

(46,166 posts)
6. Same here in Lakewood, Colorado
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:44 PM
May 2018

Several years ago I attended a city meeting for neighborhood watch volunteers. The city reps advised that they're approving more apartment complexes than condos because apartments are more in demand.

The Denver metro area is growing by leaps and bounds. Our area's housing market is wild. Recently, it took only four days for a house across the street from us to sell for over 450k. That pricing is hard to find these days. It's considered low for a home that's up to date inside. It sits on maybe .20 acre.

We've been here for over 40 years because we love our place. But we shake our heads at this market. The jump in real estate prices only means that our assessment has taken a leap. Luckily, because of our ages and that we've been here for over 20 years, we get a tax break. But there's no guarantee that this break will last forever.

eleny

(46,166 posts)
31. wow
Mon May 14, 2018, 11:41 PM
May 2018

cali has always been pricey. but how can people even afford family homes like that unless wages follow the upward climb.

onethatcares

(16,131 posts)
7. St Petersburg Floriduh
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:06 PM
May 2018

South side near the interstate and Tampa Bay, 1000 new cheap ass made, expensive to own three story monsters have gone up.

With another 1000 planned in order to remove the existing greenspace. Can't have those pesky trees taking up space.

The city already has a problem dealing with sewerage after a heavy rain. It overflows from the wastewater treatment plants into Tampa Bay giving real meaning to the term "mudshark".

North side near the Gandy Bridge the condos grow like mushrooms. After 5 years the foundations are beginning to crack. Do you think it might be caused by building on wetlands? Or an estuary system?

In Feather Sound. build build build behind gates and guards. I thought we had prisons for that.

It no longer rains every day at 7 a.m and 4 p.m. as it did 40 years ago. The land and asphalt is so hot the air moves all the moisture into Tampa and beyond.

I am starting to look for a place in another state. I can't take the exhaust fumes and crowding. Or the transplants that treat this area like a dump.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
25. I was small, but I remember the Florida rains and lightening storms in the afternoon.
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:28 PM
May 2018

Big as hell lightning strikes almost every day during summer, that had us kids crawling under beds, and rain droplets that would pound every spot on your body if you got caught in the rain. And hail balls that would knock you out if you got hit by one. We had our safe places all over in case it rained. Store owners all had big canopies so that kids and others could take shelter. It wasn't smart given the lightening, but I remember us kids taking shelter under my uncle's hay wagon and under the canopy of the attached tractor. Now I often wish for a little lightening more than a few times a year.

MGKrebs

(8,138 posts)
8. Was just in Greenville recently.
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:12 PM
May 2018

That's a happening place now! Wasn't too long ago that was pretty sleepy.

Here in Atlanta the development never really stops. One good thing about the last recession though, the proposed trump Tower go foreclosed on! Now somebody else is building on that lot.

mnhtnbb

(31,318 posts)
10. Downtown Raleigh, NC has become very trendy
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:16 PM
May 2018

and I admit to participating. Old warehouses being remodeled as loft apartments. I'm living in a 23 story high rise apartment building that was built in 2015 (and I love it).

When I first moved here in March I was very surprised to see how young most of the people were out walking on the street. Clearly the area is predominantly populated by folks in their 20's and 30's.

I moved to Raleigh from Chapel Hill. Apartment buildings are popular there due to demand from students at the flagship campus of UNC. But there have also been a LOT of new apartments built there in the last couple of years, and many of them either right in downtown or near to downtown.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
26. The reason why North Carolina has become a near purple state.
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:34 PM
May 2018

Once young people start staying after college, republicans start having a harder time getting elected. South Carolina is a strange state, the coast is saturated with development and is expensive, then drive west into the interior and be in Deliveranceville until reaching Columbia.

woodsprite

(11,853 posts)
11. Newark Delaware is being overrun with apartment buildings.
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:18 PM
May 2018

And supposedly it's not "student housing". (Yeah, my foot).

maxsolomon

(32,979 posts)
12. Where do you want people to live?
Mon May 14, 2018, 04:27 PM
May 2018

There are more people than there were before, you know. Therefore, more housing is required.

Would you live them to live in a tent under the freeway? 5,500 do every night in Seattle, and still people complain about density.

If you don't like what these building or complexes look like, go to the public meetings and make informed comments.

maxsolomon

(32,979 posts)
17. OK, but why?
Mon May 14, 2018, 08:03 PM
May 2018

We're a tad sensitive to this issue in the Emerald City.

Better apartments in the city than farmland eaten up by McMansions.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
18. One reason we bought our "last house" in Centralia..
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:00 PM
May 2018

We wanted relatively inexpensive..quaint..quiet ..we scored...

I LOVE the cute old-timey downtown...and our 6446 sq ft house we bought for $284,500.. (built in 1946, and a bit creaky, but we love it).. a 1/3 acre inside city limits.. Our son lives in Seattle , but we could never afford to live there so this is our compromise..

Since we are retired and commuting is no issue, this is where we need to be

Hi neighbor

raccoon

(31,089 posts)
41. Oh, we have that too.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:26 PM
May 2018

I am curious if there will be enough people to fill them, who can afford them. Many of them start about $1000 for a one bedroom.

maxsolomon

(32,979 posts)
47. Ha! That's what studios go for now, if you're lucky.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:51 PM
May 2018

You need an income of 36K to "afford" a grand a month at 1/3 of your income. Not ideal but probably do-able.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Urban areas, with their many amenities, are "gentrifying,"
Mon May 14, 2018, 06:16 PM
May 2018

which is including drawing suburbanites who realize the suburbs are no longer the only "place to be." Ergo, all this multi-family construction. Many suburban developments are or will in turn become slums for displaced low-income urbanites.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
15. One of these days someone will explain to me the appeal of living in SC
Mon May 14, 2018, 06:24 PM
May 2018

Liked it as a tourist, but wouldn't live there...

EDIT: Yeah, yeah, I know they have the golf courses and the Germans and Boeing and all those other corps they sold out to have them move there...

Ohiogal

(31,658 posts)
28. When my kids were smaller, we drove to Florida once
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:46 PM
May 2018

And we were noticing license plates and state mottos. This was during the month of July. My kids started having fun coming up with their own state mottos. For SC, they came up with "South Carolina: It's Too Hot".

Okay, okay they were under 10. Still, I remember it and chuckle.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
33. And you have to monitor every hurricane.
Tue May 15, 2018, 07:20 AM
May 2018

It being a red state, if one hits then you'll be screwed for a long time. Lived there for 18 years, happy I'm gone.

I live in the mountains now, in a college town. The college owns the town and the only way Walmart got in here is because you used some shady crap, to include hiding their names. I'm also close to a gay friendly small city. Now I'm going to start getting active to turn this once blue state back, at least locally. We just had a blue Governor and we have to change it back. Got a chance of picking up a blue congressperson.

If the college wasn't here, I wouldnt live here. I live next door to a teacher, and behind me a college professor. Retired professor also on my left, who raises huskies.

I do have a guest room. Like the schools scouting for good athletes, and moving those kids to someone house to establish residency so they can play for their team. I wonder if we could start doing this. Lots of trust has to be involved in this, but would make a lot of purple areas unsafe.

raccoon

(31,089 posts)
42. Many people migrate here from cold states. Lots. It's not unusual
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:27 PM
May 2018

now to be in a group of people, and only a few of them are natives to SC.

shanti

(21,670 posts)
20. Sacramento
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:06 PM
May 2018

Oh yeah, here too. There was a newspaper article in the Bee recently that discussed this. I can't find it at the moment, but it is a real apartment boom.

underpants

(182,273 posts)
27. I've noticed a certain style - the apartments look like shipping containers stacked on end
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:38 PM
May 2018

I don't know if just a new style or if you get more square footage on the same footprint but I've noticed a lot of them. Richmond as well as Roanoke. Stuck tightly into the cities.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
29. Nashville Tn is no longer Music City. It's Condo City.
Mon May 14, 2018, 09:56 PM
May 2018

Most of the studios where music history was made are now dust and covered by condos and hotels. In 1970, Beatles drummer Ringo Starr recorded the solo album Beaucoups of Blues at Music City Recorders, with Scotty Moore as engineer. He was Elvis Presley's original guitar player. That studio is now a parking lot.
Soundshop Studios where Paul McCartney recorded Junior's Farm in 1974 while staying on the Lebanon, Tennessee farm of Curly Putman Jr., which accounts for the song's title. Jimmy McCulloch played the guitar solo as his Wings debut. That studio was torn down and condos now are it's tombstone.
So many other Publishing Company buildings and Studios no longer exist where the likes of Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Jerry Reed, Chet Adkins, Roy Orbison and many others wrote and recorded are gone. It seems the Mighty Dollar is more important than the history and integrity of what created our popular culture. There are several billionaires who live in the Brentwood area of Nashville and the Franklin area that have bought up lines of houses of 16th Avenue and 17th Avenue and 18th Avenue that are scheduled to be demolished and living mausoleums to greed are to be built. If you're planning a trip to Nashville don't expect to see the truth. Just expect to see the gaudy bling bling of capitalism or maybe ride a tour bus where a tour guide will point to empty lots where history was made. Ben Folds and the Society for theNational Preservation of Historic Sites has preserve RCA Studio A and B. But that's about it.

raccoon

(31,089 posts)
44. That is sacriligious.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:29 PM
May 2018
So many other Publishing Company buildings and Studios no longer exist where the likes of Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Jerry Reed, Chet Adkins, Roy Orbison and many others wrote and recorded are gone.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
34. what shocks me about the Greeville growth is the prices of the condos - particularly downtown ones
Tue May 15, 2018, 07:26 AM
May 2018

Just got back from Artisphere and noted the same thing - condo development everywhere

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
35. Western suburban Orlando has seen a massive housing boon
Tue May 15, 2018, 07:39 AM
May 2018

Most new homes start around $300k. Want something under? It will be a manor home (essentially a standalone townhouse) or in a townhouse.

Apartment rents are insane. 2-3BR runs from $1200 for an old place up to $2000

One new high school built and another sorely needed. Elementary schools have been built. Still need middle schools.

Shopping is one big development in winter garden that could be duplicated completely nearer the backside of Disney and still draw people by the thousands

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
39. Kingsport, TN here and they're building a lot...rent has skyrocketed.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:10 PM
May 2018

We have a basement apartment and have been debating on renovating and renting it out.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
40. I wish they would do that here.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:14 PM
May 2018

I’ve seen a few blocks of apartments going up here and there but we need more supply to balance out price pressures. Unfortunately mine seems to be a minority view.

Texasgal

(17,029 posts)
43. Massive housing shortage here
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:28 PM
May 2018

in Austin, TX. Apartments are going up everywhere there is a patch or sliver of land.

Alethia Merritt

(147 posts)
46. These are being built everywhere in Maryland too. Most are ugly, drab boxes on top of each other.
Tue May 15, 2018, 05:39 PM
May 2018

I suspect there is a lot of Russian, Ukraine, and maybe even Chinese money involved. We have a sizable influx of Russian immigrants all around us. i am not just making this up. I have spoken to some of them.

It is sad, that we don't have a similar building movement for affordable housing for working men and women. The box condos around my neighborhood start at $890,000.

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