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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIn and around Greenville SC, developers are building apartment complexes everywhere.
In and around Greenville SC, developers are building apartment complexes everywhere.
They are building them in the downtown area.
They are building them in the nearby small cities.
They are building them way out in the middle of nowhere on the interstate.
How about your area?
blm
(112,919 posts)yesterday
Runningdawg
(4,494 posts)downtown Tulsa is suddenly cool again. The old houses surrounding it are being torn down and replaced with luxury apts that only the rich can afford. Still no grocery store.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Selling $8 slices of pizza and $10 cups of coffee. It's all about money with grocery stores. The people living in that new development should expect loads of organic pork, chicken and beef for sale and every type of cheese imaginable. Large parts of the store will be devoted to pricey offerings and they will get bought.
Runningdawg
(4,494 posts)The people moving into the lux apartments don't want a grocery store downtown. They would rather drive 10 miles to avoid the "undesirables". Then come home, prop their feet up on their 5K couch and complain about people on welfare shopping for unhealthy food at Dollar Stores.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)They will get a highend grocery store that has prices so high, only they will have money to shop there. Trust me, I have seen this movie before. Sad, but true.
I don't know where all the people come from
elfin
(6,262 posts)Have seen this before. Overbuilding when loans are cheap and housing demand seems high. Boom and then bust.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Old 'public housing' sites,' old warehouse sites, downtown skate park, old retail buildings remodeled. All apartments.
The City knows something the rest of us don't?
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)eleny
(46,166 posts)Several years ago I attended a city meeting for neighborhood watch volunteers. The city reps advised that they're approving more apartment complexes than condos because apartments are more in demand.
The Denver metro area is growing by leaps and bounds. Our area's housing market is wild. Recently, it took only four days for a house across the street from us to sell for over 450k. That pricing is hard to find these days. It's considered low for a home that's up to date inside. It sits on maybe .20 acre.
We've been here for over 40 years because we love our place. But we shake our heads at this market. The jump in real estate prices only means that our assessment has taken a leap. Luckily, because of our ages and that we've been here for over 20 years, we get a tax break. But there's no guarantee that this break will last forever.
Demovictory9
(32,320 posts)Blue_true
(31,261 posts)cali has always been pricey. but how can people even afford family homes like that unless wages follow the upward climb.
onethatcares
(16,131 posts)South side near the interstate and Tampa Bay, 1000 new cheap ass made, expensive to own three story monsters have gone up.
With another 1000 planned in order to remove the existing greenspace. Can't have those pesky trees taking up space.
The city already has a problem dealing with sewerage after a heavy rain. It overflows from the wastewater treatment plants into Tampa Bay giving real meaning to the term "mudshark".
North side near the Gandy Bridge the condos grow like mushrooms. After 5 years the foundations are beginning to crack. Do you think it might be caused by building on wetlands? Or an estuary system?
In Feather Sound. build build build behind gates and guards. I thought we had prisons for that.
It no longer rains every day at 7 a.m and 4 p.m. as it did 40 years ago. The land and asphalt is so hot the air moves all the moisture into Tampa and beyond.
I am starting to look for a place in another state. I can't take the exhaust fumes and crowding. Or the transplants that treat this area like a dump.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Big as hell lightning strikes almost every day during summer, that had us kids crawling under beds, and rain droplets that would pound every spot on your body if you got caught in the rain. And hail balls that would knock you out if you got hit by one. We had our safe places all over in case it rained. Store owners all had big canopies so that kids and others could take shelter. It wasn't smart given the lightening, but I remember us kids taking shelter under my uncle's hay wagon and under the canopy of the attached tractor. Now I often wish for a little lightening more than a few times a year.
MGKrebs
(8,138 posts)That's a happening place now! Wasn't too long ago that was pretty sleepy.
Here in Atlanta the development never really stops. One good thing about the last recession though, the proposed trump Tower go foreclosed on! Now somebody else is building on that lot.
mnhtnbb
(31,318 posts)and I admit to participating. Old warehouses being remodeled as loft apartments. I'm living in a 23 story high rise apartment building that was built in 2015 (and I love it).
When I first moved here in March I was very surprised to see how young most of the people were out walking on the street. Clearly the area is predominantly populated by folks in their 20's and 30's.
I moved to Raleigh from Chapel Hill. Apartment buildings are popular there due to demand from students at the flagship campus of UNC. But there have also been a LOT of new apartments built there in the last couple of years, and many of them either right in downtown or near to downtown.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Once young people start staying after college, republicans start having a harder time getting elected. South Carolina is a strange state, the coast is saturated with development and is expensive, then drive west into the interior and be in Deliveranceville until reaching Columbia.
woodsprite
(11,853 posts)And supposedly it's not "student housing". (Yeah, my foot).
maxsolomon
(32,979 posts)There are more people than there were before, you know. Therefore, more housing is required.
Would you live them to live in a tent under the freeway? 5,500 do every night in Seattle, and still people complain about density.
If you don't like what these building or complexes look like, go to the public meetings and make informed comments.
raccoon
(31,089 posts)maxsolomon
(32,979 posts)We're a tad sensitive to this issue in the Emerald City.
Better apartments in the city than farmland eaten up by McMansions.
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)We wanted relatively inexpensive..quaint..quiet ..we scored...
I LOVE the cute old-timey downtown...and our 6446 sq ft house we bought for $284,500.. (built in 1946, and a bit creaky, but we love it).. a 1/3 acre inside city limits.. Our son lives in Seattle , but we could never afford to live there so this is our compromise..
Since we are retired and commuting is no issue, this is where we need to be
Hi neighbor
onethatcares
(16,131 posts)I thought you lived in Centralia PA.
raccoon
(31,089 posts)I am curious if there will be enough people to fill them, who can afford them. Many of them start about $1000 for a one bedroom.
maxsolomon
(32,979 posts)You need an income of 36K to "afford" a grand a month at 1/3 of your income. Not ideal but probably do-able.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)which is including drawing suburbanites who realize the suburbs are no longer the only "place to be." Ergo, all this multi-family construction. Many suburban developments are or will in turn become slums for displaced low-income urbanites.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Liked it as a tourist, but wouldn't live there...
EDIT: Yeah, yeah, I know they have the golf courses and the Germans and Boeing and all those other corps they sold out to have them move there...
SoCalDem
(103,856 posts)gators? humidity?
Bonx
(2,039 posts)Ohiogal
(31,658 posts)And we were noticing license plates and state mottos. This was during the month of July. My kids started having fun coming up with their own state mottos. For SC, they came up with "South Carolina: It's Too Hot".
Okay, okay they were under 10. Still, I remember it and chuckle.
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)It being a red state, if one hits then you'll be screwed for a long time. Lived there for 18 years, happy I'm gone.
I live in the mountains now, in a college town. The college owns the town and the only way Walmart got in here is because you used some shady crap, to include hiding their names. I'm also close to a gay friendly small city. Now I'm going to start getting active to turn this once blue state back, at least locally. We just had a blue Governor and we have to change it back. Got a chance of picking up a blue congressperson.
If the college wasn't here, I wouldnt live here. I live next door to a teacher, and behind me a college professor. Retired professor also on my left, who raises huskies.
I do have a guest room. Like the schools scouting for good athletes, and moving those kids to someone house to establish residency so they can play for their team. I wonder if we could start doing this. Lots of trust has to be involved in this, but would make a lot of purple areas unsafe.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)raccoon
(31,089 posts)now to be in a group of people, and only a few of them are natives to SC.
B2G
(9,766 posts)shanti
(21,670 posts)Oh yeah, here too. There was a newspaper article in the Bee recently that discussed this. I can't find it at the moment, but it is a real apartment boom.
underpants
(182,273 posts)I don't know if just a new style or if you get more square footage on the same footprint but I've noticed a lot of them. Richmond as well as Roanoke. Stuck tightly into the cities.
Lint Head
(15,064 posts)Most of the studios where music history was made are now dust and covered by condos and hotels. In 1970, Beatles drummer Ringo Starr recorded the solo album Beaucoups of Blues at Music City Recorders, with Scotty Moore as engineer. He was Elvis Presley's original guitar player. That studio is now a parking lot.
Soundshop Studios where Paul McCartney recorded Junior's Farm in 1974 while staying on the Lebanon, Tennessee farm of Curly Putman Jr., which accounts for the song's title. Jimmy McCulloch played the guitar solo as his Wings debut. That studio was torn down and condos now are it's tombstone.
So many other Publishing Company buildings and Studios no longer exist where the likes of Elvis Presley, Hank Williams Sr, Jerry Reed, Chet Adkins, Roy Orbison and many others wrote and recorded are gone. It seems the Mighty Dollar is more important than the history and integrity of what created our popular culture. There are several billionaires who live in the Brentwood area of Nashville and the Franklin area that have bought up lines of houses of 16th Avenue and 17th Avenue and 18th Avenue that are scheduled to be demolished and living mausoleums to greed are to be built. If you're planning a trip to Nashville don't expect to see the truth. Just expect to see the gaudy bling bling of capitalism or maybe ride a tour bus where a tour guide will point to empty lots where history was made. Ben Folds and the Society for theNational Preservation of Historic Sites has preserve RCA Studio A and B. But that's about it.
raccoon
(31,089 posts)ellie
(6,927 posts)had a construction boom going on for the entire six years I have been here.
DrDan
(20,411 posts)Just got back from Artisphere and noted the same thing - condo development everywhere
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Most new homes start around $300k. Want something under? It will be a manor home (essentially a standalone townhouse) or in a townhouse.
Apartment rents are insane. 2-3BR runs from $1200 for an old place up to $2000
One new high school built and another sorely needed. Elementary schools have been built. Still need middle schools.
Shopping is one big development in winter garden that could be duplicated completely nearer the backside of Disney and still draw people by the thousands
cynatnite
(31,011 posts)We have a basement apartment and have been debating on renovating and renting it out.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Ive seen a few blocks of apartments going up here and there but we need more supply to balance out price pressures. Unfortunately mine seems to be a minority view.
Texasgal
(17,029 posts)in Austin, TX. Apartments are going up everywhere there is a patch or sliver of land.
Alethia Merritt
(147 posts)I suspect there is a lot of Russian, Ukraine, and maybe even Chinese money involved. We have a sizable influx of Russian immigrants all around us. i am not just making this up. I have spoken to some of them.
It is sad, that we don't have a similar building movement for affordable housing for working men and women. The box condos around my neighborhood start at $890,000.