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Ohioboy

(3,239 posts)
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:48 PM May 2018

My poor 87 year old mother has become confused, and I'm blaming Right-Wing Media.

I just got back from a 2 day visit with my 87 year old Mom for mothers' day. My mother is very healthy, both in mind and body. She is very clear with no signs of memory loss or dementia, but her view of Trump has me worried.

We were talking about the need for consumer protections, especially with financial products, and credit. Both of us agreed that such protections are good and necessary. That's when she said "That's why I'm glad Trump is draining the swamp". I'm like..."What?"!

At first I thought she was being sarcastic, she has a quick wit, but when I questioned her further it became evident that she was serious. Somehow my mother, a very intelligent together person, got the idea that Trump was all about consumer protection with his campaign promise to "drain the swamp". She thinks Trump has been working to make it so big corporations can't scam their customers. I tried my best to explain to her how she needs to support people like Elizabeth Warren for that and not Trump, but she seemed pretty set in her thinking. I'll be following up with her later on this to explain further, but in the meantime I think she actually believes Trump is all for consumer protections.

Later that same evening when she wanted to watch some television the TV defaulted right to FOX. I'm blaming them.

This is a true story! I just back an hour ago from the trip.

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My poor 87 year old mother has become confused, and I'm blaming Right-Wing Media. (Original Post) Ohioboy May 2018 OP
I'm so sorry Ohiogal May 2018 #1
SAme thing happened to my father yesphan May 2018 #2
Too bad you didn't block fox on her tv kimbutgar May 2018 #3
I was thinking about that, but wasn't sure how to do it. Ohioboy May 2018 #5
It depends on the way she receives her news kimbutgar May 2018 #9
:) I'd block Fox on hotel TVs without a qualm and Hortensis May 2018 #7
PBS is doing a series on fake news, and one segment Hortensis May 2018 #4
The same thing happened with my folks yesterday too. iscooterliberally May 2018 #6
Fox is a mind altering drug. Turbineguy May 2018 #8
This happened to both my elderly parents. enough May 2018 #10
You're right about that. Ohioboy May 2018 #11
those are very good points, and they explain SO MUCH renate May 2018 #12
Welp, happened to my elderly parents too. Kittycow May 2018 #13
That is so terrible when the very parents who taught you about the world enough May 2018 #15
Block Fox News from the TV. sarcasmo May 2018 #14

Ohiogal

(31,922 posts)
1. I'm so sorry
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:51 PM
May 2018

that Fox has poisoned your otherwise intelligent mother's brain. I hate them more and more every day.

yesphan

(1,587 posts)
2. SAme thing happened to my father
Mon May 14, 2018, 02:56 PM
May 2018

and now my older brother. Fuck em ! (not my relatives, fox,info wars, etc..........)

kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
3. Too bad you didn't block fox on her tv
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:00 PM
May 2018

Another person did this to their father recently.

Sometimes when I go to hotels I block fox on the tv.

Ohioboy

(3,239 posts)
5. I was thinking about that, but wasn't sure how to do it.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:07 PM
May 2018

I'm not good with how a lot of tech stuff works. I didn't want to totally mess something up and leave her without TV at all.



kimbutgar

(21,056 posts)
9. It depends on the way she receives her news
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

Cable or satellite. In the menu settings they have an area where it is parental controls where you pick a channel to block.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. :) I'd block Fox on hotel TVs without a qualm and
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:08 PM
May 2018

hope it stuck for a while. But to do so to one's grandmother would be a profoundly disrespectful interference with her personal choices. Big no-no. I'd sure long to be able to, though.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. PBS is doing a series on fake news, and one segment
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:04 PM
May 2018

features the producer's grandmother, a strong conservative, who generously allowed herself to be portrayed as a subject of its pernicious effects. The medium they examined was Facebook News, not Fox, but otherwise she might be yours. This grandmother regards herself as an independent thinker and occasionally, as necessary, does check facts and believes she respects truth, and she's still filled chock full with delusions.

iscooterliberally

(2,860 posts)
6. The same thing happened with my folks yesterday too.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:08 PM
May 2018

They think Trump is a good negotiator. They watch Fox all the time too. Mom's 78 and my step-dad is in his early 80s. I really hate Fox. What a disaster they have been for our country. I can't convince my parents of what a horrible person Trump is, even though he stepped right up the hot mic with the cameras rolling and told us all directly to our faces what a jack-ass he is.

(this is our new salute I suppose)

Turbineguy

(37,295 posts)
8. Fox is a mind altering drug.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

And it doesn't have any pejorative terms attached like "dropping acid", "shooting heroin" or even "smoking dope".

Maybe we need to come up with a term that associates "watching" with something bad. In Britain they have the term "glassing", the verb for glass, as in attacking somebody with a broken bottle.

Update: It seems the WH people themselves have worked out a name for this: "a dosage of Fox". Well maybe just "a dose", as in, "a dose of Gonorrhea"

enough

(13,255 posts)
10. This happened to both my elderly parents.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:12 PM
May 2018

It’s partly about fear. As you get older you start to feel precarious in many ways, and you can become susceptible to fear mongering.

It’s also about simplicity. Fox News makes things simple. All these issues are very complex, but Fox News gives you simple ideas to hang onto. Witch Hunt, drain the swamp, can’t afford healthcare for all or welfare programs, immigrants are criminals, global warming is a hoax, etc etc. Pick an issue, they have a simple idea to answer it.

Ohioboy

(3,239 posts)
11. You're right about that.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

They use short, easy to remember, phrases full of emotion and they stick.

renate

(13,776 posts)
12. those are very good points, and they explain SO MUCH
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:21 PM
May 2018

Especially about how Fox is so persuasive to people in certain demographics. Or to people who are working two jobs (and are already in anger or exhaustion mode as a result) and don't have time for nuanced information, etc.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
13. Welp, happened to my elderly parents too.
Mon May 14, 2018, 03:51 PM
May 2018

They're in their early '90's but still run around the PNW Fifth Wheel camping in the warmer months so they're not doddering too much yet.

Anyway, long story short, I told my mom at a family holiday dinner when she was going on and on about Obama being a "mulatto"--" he's not even a real black person"-- and "Moose-chelle" that I was grateful that my Real Mommy raised me and not Fox Mommy.

She's turned into a real asshole.

enough

(13,255 posts)
15. That is so terrible when the very parents who taught you about the world
Tue May 15, 2018, 09:19 PM
May 2018

turn into bigots before your eyes. I remember sitting in a doctor’s waiting room while my aged mother made racist and anti Semitic remarks about other people in the room. The same mother who taught me about how all humans are one family and we all have to work and live together.

That confirmed for me that intolerance is a form of mental illness or dementia.

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