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Donald Sherman was just trying to give his sick son some air.
By TheGrio - May 14, 2018
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Another day, another Lets call authorities on Black people for no reason story. Todays story comes from a dad in Washington, DC.
Donald Shermans little boy had a fever, so he stayed home with the tike and decided to take him out for some air at a nearby park, Kingman Island. There was nothing out of the ordinary, just a dad pushing his son in a stroller.
But half an hour into his walk, a security officer in a marked vehicle flagged him down and told him that a woman called in to say that there was a suspicious man walking with a baby on the path.
When the woman was asked to describe the mans race, she reportedly declined to do so. Lucky for Sherman, the security officer did not press him, detain him, or call the actual police. She simply let him know that someone had made a complaint about him.
Sherman is pretty sure the complainant was a white woman on a bike who passed by him and his boy a little earlier. He took to Facebook to explain the situation and why its so dangerous to call police or authorities on Black people for no reason.
https://thegrio.com/2018/05/14/dc-dad-stroller-suspicious/
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MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)All you can do is call these racists out on their bullshit and, hopefully, shame them into making this stop. Thanks to Mr. Scorpio for posting... hope this helps in that regard.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Link to tweet
Being a public woman in general, but a public black woman, especially, is hard as hell. Due to the cruel standards that we place on women to look, speak, and act a certain way at all times, its nearly impossible for black women to present their authentic selves in professional settings. So when a fan thought it was their place to critique CNN commentator Symone Sanders nail art claiming that long nails are not appropriate when you are on CNN TV and discussing [ ] politics, Sanders, who served as the press secretary for Bernie Sanders during his 2016 presidential bid, clapped back with absolute clarity that her professional dress isnt her problem, its yours.
http://afropunk.com/2018/05/symone-sanders-straightens-out-nosy-motherfcker-who-said-her-nails-are-not-appropriate-for-tv/
GeorgeGist
(25,318 posts)MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Link to tweet
Napping on campus? In your own building? Really?
BRANDON E. PATTERSONMAY. 9, 2018 6:00 AM
The latest addition to the list of things you apparently cant do while black is a doozy.
On Monday, a white graduate student at Yale called campus police on a black classmate who was sleeping on a sofa in the common room of the building where both students livedLolade Siyonbola, a grad student in Yales African studies program, had fallen asleep while studying.
Siyonbola was detained for more than 15 minutes as officers tried to verify she was a student. The spelling of her name on her student ID apparently didnt match the spelling in the database the officers used to look her upwhich is really not all that surprising. Afterward, she posted two videos of the ordeal to Facebook. In one of them (below), which has hundreds of thousands of views, an officer asks for her ID. Siyonbola asks why, and another cop says they need to make sure you belong here.
I deserve to be here. I paid tuition like everybody else. I am not going to justify my existence here, Siyonbola protests later after one of the officers asks about the assignment she was working on. After a bit more back and forth, she adds, Im not going to be harassed.
When they finally let her be, one of the officers tells Siyonbola to have a good night. Im not going to have a good night, she says. But you have a good night.
Siyonbola also informed the officers that the woman who called her in had previously called the police on her friend because he was black and in the stairwell.
Stuff like this happens every day in America: Black and brown Americans are unfairly perceived as suspicious or threatening by store clerks, restaurant managers, cops, and everyday peoplewho are often quick to call in law enforcement over behavior that is legal and/or benign.
https://www.motherjones.com/crime-justice/2018/05/11-more-things-you-cannot-do-while-black-starbucks-nordstrom-rack-1/
marble falls
(57,063 posts)with personal race issues.
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)To some people (especially Wypipo) "something" means "a black person I've decided has no right to be here."
marble falls
(57,063 posts)attached to a PoC, when what it almost always should mean is a white guy with a basement full of ammunition and fertilizer bombs.
Bettie
(16,086 posts)and why do people feel the need to call the police on others who aren't doing anything illegal? Being black isn't illegal, pushing your kid in a stroller isn't illegal...WTF.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)Unfortunately, in this country, many whites conflate comfort with safety. They didn't call the cops because they were in unsafe situations, by any stretch of the imagination. They called the cops on those black people because they were uncomfortable with having black people existing in locations that they arbitrarily determined were "white spaces."
It's as if they were imposing some sort of virtual reality Jim Crow scenarios onto black bodies. As a matter of fact, it's part of our national heritage as it regards to Jim Crow, despite the fact that the Jim Crow laws are no longer on the books.
That's merely a reminder that America is still highly dysfunctional behavior in this day and age.
Bettie
(16,086 posts)I just don't understand why people would go out of their way to be awful to other people who are just living their lives.
Seems like a waste of energy and being nasty for no reason.
haele
(12,646 posts)- then I can't really explain it.
My parents were in education; I grew up surrounded by college-level history and anthropology research and travel. I grew up noticing was that in popular culture ... movies, TV (or news radio), stories in general... except for the few almost saintly "good" POCs, most are pictured as being either 1) clever but emotionally immature, reactionary savages that needed some hard-nosed but heart of gold white savior to bring them to the light - or serve justice over them, or 2) were negligibly human, only around as background story dressing, to be disposed of once their use to the story was over.
In most pop culture, People of Color do not belong in polite society - and never really has.
That's why you see the more shallow and socially anxious lower middle class/middle class Caucasians call the po-lice whenever a POC appears to be uppity enough to invade their social order. White people whose existence revolves around the maintaining trappings of status are always confused and uncomfortable - frightened even - whenever POCs go about pursuing the same American normal life "everyone else" has.
If you ask white people why they called the cops on a person of color just because they're "not where they're supposed to be" or not acting sufficiently compliant, this is what you'll hear:
"Because everything I know about the way America is great does not include People who don't look like me..."
"Because on the TV and the Radio, Black and Brown folks want my stuff because they think I got it easy; not because I worked hard...they don't respect hard work the way we white people do, all their people make money in entertainment..."
I've heard this from "white folks" all my life.
Totally ignoring their own expectations and sense of privilege when it comes to how they and their kids are able to act in public.
Haele
heaven05
(18,124 posts)what this country has, is and continues to perpetrate. Racism, bigotry, ignorance and racial fear.
IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)the white woman on the bike is the one who would look out of place there.
I've often wondered what would happen if POC started calling the cops on suspicious whites. In chocolate city, there's a good chance the cops would also be black.
treestar
(82,383 posts)nothing other than that - that is not enough to prove it was that woman. Suppose it was not? It might have been a gender thing - man with stroller is suspicious, woman not? Why was he "suspicious" to the person who called? Might have been something else, and even a black police caller.
CaptainTruth
(6,583 posts)get the red out
(13,461 posts)Nothing "fragile" about it. If you see someone pushing their kid through a park in a stroller you just say hello unless you are a racist piece of shit looking for an opportunity to harm a person of color.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,105 posts)You could/should have stopped at "Black dad deemed suspicious".
Madampiece Theater
(5 posts)OneGrassRoot
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gollygee
(22,336 posts)That's the big question here. What seemed suspicious about a man with a baby in a stroller?
Also, why does he actually have to talk to the dad? Can't he take a look, see there's nothing suspicious going on, and move on?
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Let HER justify her call before rolling up on an innocent man.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Dispatchers could ask some more questions. Like, "What specifically is suspicious?" Or, "What is suspicious about someone pushing a baby in a stroller?"
EffieBlack
(14,249 posts)Its NO ones fault.
A white person sees a black man and it doesnt feel right. Theyre not racist, of course. They even have black friends! But this guy doesnt look right, and arent we SUPPOSED to say something if we see something. If its nothing, the police will know that and no harm, no foul.
They call the police.
Police show up and confront the man. Why bother to first try to find out what was supposedly suspicious about him before rolling up on him themselves? I mean, after all, who are they to question a citizens motives? They need to just check it out. if the guys innocent, he shouldnt mind because we all need to be safe, right? And if hes. Or doing anything wrong, he wont resist our questions or resent being checked out.
But heres the thing. Why is the burden on the guy to prove hes not doing anything wrong? And what if this isnt the third or fourth or fifth time hes been stopped this week or month? What if hes sick and tired of this and doesnt feel like being polite and cooperative this time? What if, instead of sending laid back, cool, decent cops, the dispatcher sends a couple of good old boys just as distrustful of black men as the caller and are looking for a fight?
Next thing we know, weve got a black man taken down, handcuffed and arrested for trespassing, or disorderly conduct, or resisting arrest - if he hasnt gotten shot because the police got skeered of the skeery humongous 55 black man.
And then we get the excuses: The caller didnt have a choice. She was suspicious, so she HAD to call. Its not HER fault the police questioned/arrested/shot the guy. The police didnt have a choice. They HAD to question him/arrest/shoot him. Its not THEIR fault the guy wasnt cooperatives or didnt scare them.
Actually its all the GUYs fault. After all, I feel he had just cooperated with the police, answered their questions, didnt resist arrest, tried harder not to scare them, Nine of this would have happened!
If people didnt try so hard to make everything about race, we wouldnt have these problems.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)+1000 !!