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Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:53 AM May 2018

English teachers: Is there any grammatical situation where, "Be best" is correctly used?

Usually a "THE" is inserted between those 2 words.

"Be best in your field"

Um NO

Seriously, did no one look at these 2 words and not notice that it is grammatically incorrect?

Unless someone can show me how it could be? I will assert I am not "the best" when it comes to grammar.

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English teachers: Is there any grammatical situation where, "Be best" is correctly used? (Original Post) Maraya1969 May 2018 OP
"Usually, using a noun indicator would be best." unblock May 2018 #1
Maraya, you have used the DU to reach out to English teachers True Dough May 2018 #2
Wouldn't that be "IS best"? Or "Would be best"? Maraya1969 May 2018 #8
"I think that would be best" is perfectly acceptable grammar. mr_lebowski May 2018 #35
It's not a sentence, so it doesn't have to follow grammar. DetlefK May 2018 #3
It would be best if one thought things all of the way through. NCTraveler May 2018 #4
AH! Finally a sentence with the words that makes sense. But I also Maraya1969 May 2018 #10
It would be best if you studied more grammar. marylandblue May 2018 #5
It would be best not to discuss that at this time... kentuck May 2018 #6
Thread winna (from a Brit btw) Exotica May 2018 #37
i guess shes wanting american kids to dumb down for donnie samnsara May 2018 #7
It's not a sentence, it's a slogan Blue_Adept May 2018 #9
Why not get it right though? Doesn't she have writers to help her? brush May 2018 #13
Language is fluid Blue_Adept May 2018 #20
It's not that fluid. "Be best" just adds to the lowering of standards by this WH. brush May 2018 #22
That is it. It sounds like something a person who speaks English Maraya1969 May 2018 #27
It's only a slogan Nevernose May 2018 #28
Be best. Run fastest. Go furthest. Reach highest. eShirl May 2018 #11
'Be best' still sounds stupid. louis-t May 2018 #12
I swear I heard it or similar in an anime eShirl May 2018 #14
Wouldn't surprise me. I expect it will fall flat. louis-t May 2018 #18
None of this stuff ever catches on Blue_Adept May 2018 #29
Right. It sounds like her speech writers weren't consulted at all. brush May 2018 #16
It seems like it should be, Be the best. Best here is a noun I believe Maraya1969 May 2018 #26
But "Be the best" means the same thing and is grammatically correct. Or "do your best." pnwmom May 2018 #36
It would be best if Trump left the country and never came back. milestogo May 2018 #15
When a method actor lands the role of George Best in a biopic movie Ron Obvious May 2018 #17
it's russian bot speak .. stonecutter357 May 2018 #19
English syntax/grammar a la Ljubljana. Golden Raisin May 2018 #21
Yes oberliner May 2018 #23
In her defense, Melanoma doesn't speak English very well. comradebillyboy May 2018 #24
There's nothing actually wrong with it as a slogan defacto7 May 2018 #25
Opposite of be worst? lunasun May 2018 #30
So don't be like her own family IronLionZion May 2018 #33
A first lady who doesn't speak English well ( she speaks multiple languages- my ass) Demsrule86 May 2018 #31
Donald is the best so how could anyone else be best? IronLionZion May 2018 #32
As a slogan, it may not have to be grammatical... HopeAgain May 2018 #34
in an "ESL" sensibility, it's probably fine SoCalDem May 2018 #38
Best is not commonly used as an adverb. no_hypocrisy May 2018 #39
However, you just used it as a noun. ;) Alethia Merritt May 2018 #41
The subject is understood to be "You". Alethia Merritt May 2018 #40
Yes, it's a correct Hortatory sentence. planetc May 2018 #43
Actually a lot of people looked at it and noticed it was grammatically incorrect. Unfortunately politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #42

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
2. Maraya, you have used the DU to reach out to English teachers
Tue May 15, 2018, 11:56 AM
May 2018

and I think that be best under the circumstances.

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
35. "I think that would be best" is perfectly acceptable grammar.
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:08 PM
May 2018

U asked if 'be best' is ever grammatically correct, this is an example of how it could be used, and be 'correct'.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
3. It's not a sentence, so it doesn't have to follow grammar.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:00 PM
May 2018

Not english-teacher here, but there is no period at the end. That means, it's not a sentence, just a string of words. So, ordinary grammar doesn't apply.

The motto sounds weird but is okay.

Here's another example:
"be hungriest"
"drive angriest"
"print smallest"

It works.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
4. It would be best if one thought things all of the way through.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:02 PM
May 2018

I am a grammatical train-wreck. Not sure if my sentence above qualifies as accurate.

It doesn’t need to be grammatically correct as a slogan. It’s not a sentence.

Got milk.

It just needs to be catchy.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
10. AH! Finally a sentence with the words that makes sense. But I also
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

get what you and others are saying that it is not a sentence so it doesn't have to be grammatically correct.

I remember an ad campaign for, (I think) bananas. It said, "Bananas, the world's perfect food"

That sentence bothered the heck out of me. I thought the word, "most" should be in front of "perfect". Otherwise they were saying that the world only had one perfect food. Hey, I guess that is what they were saying!

Again me:

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. It would be best if you studied more grammar.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:03 PM
May 2018

My problem with the slogan is not the grammar, but ithat it's generic. Be best at what? Her husband is the best at twitter insults. Also many people say the best President in history. Do those count?

brush

(53,764 posts)
13. Why not get it right though? Doesn't she have writers to help her?
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:41 PM
May 2018

We don't need English-as-a-second-language-sounding slogans out of the WH.

There's already enough claptrap coming out of this administration.

They need to BE BETTER.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
20. Language is fluid
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:56 PM
May 2018

Hell, linguists are loving how language is working these days. There's such a fast pace of evolution of it that normally happens over generations of speakers that they're busier than ever.

I wish I still had a link to some of the articles about it. It was fascinating in how they were seeing such easily identifiable trends in language shifts in near real time.

edit: here's one

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/booksblog/2017/dec/07/internet-online-news-social-media-changes-language

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
27. That is it. It sounds like something a person who speaks English
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:36 PM
May 2018

as a second language would say. But she is surrounded by people whose first language is English so it shouldn't happen

It sounds foreign.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
28. It's only a slogan
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:37 PM
May 2018

If you’re Frankenstein or Tarzan.

“Bully bad! Fire bad! Be best!”

Otherwise it’s just semi-coherent gobbledygook.

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
11. Be best. Run fastest. Go furthest. Reach highest.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018

implied is, in comparison to others

in essence, be superior

eShirl

(18,490 posts)
14. I swear I heard it or similar in an anime
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:45 PM
May 2018

words of encouragement to a teen student leaving to take exams

louis-t

(23,288 posts)
18. Wouldn't surprise me. I expect it will fall flat.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

Just not something that is likely to catch on.

Blue_Adept

(6,397 posts)
29. None of this stuff ever catches on
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:38 PM
May 2018

I can't think of any truly successful campaign beyond 'just say no' and we now how awful that was.

brush

(53,764 posts)
16. Right. It sounds like her speech writers weren't consulted at all.
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:47 PM
May 2018

No English-as-a-first-language editor/writer would ok that.

OTOH an English-as-a-second-language person...

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
36. But "Be the best" means the same thing and is grammatically correct. Or "do your best."
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:11 PM
May 2018

In either case, once again I feel sorry for Barron.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
17. When a method actor lands the role of George Best in a biopic movie
Tue May 15, 2018, 12:48 PM
May 2018

Telling him "Be Best", would be correct.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. Yes
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:06 PM
May 2018
It would be best
English vocabulary and translations


it would be best (if you called her): the best thing to do would be, the best option would be (to call her)
idiom

it would be best that/if (you left): the most appropriate thing for you to do would be (to leave)
idiom
Examples

"Anyway, despite your commendable efforts, I have decided it would be best to hire the janitor through a cleaning agency."


https://www.gymglish.com/en/english-translation/it-would-be-best

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
25. There's nothing actually wrong with it as a slogan
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

It's that double "b" that makes it sound.... unusual. Some combinations in English are just strange. Rubber baby buggie bumpers... it's the b's.
I think also the idea of "best" needs softening or it's kind of elitest. Just being best is like clawing to the top where only one person can fit or ruling the masses from the top of the pile.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
30. Opposite of be worst?
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:38 PM
May 2018

Missing a determiner , like be the best or be your best, or trump could be the worst ever , etc.
I think

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
31. A first lady who doesn't speak English well ( she speaks multiple languages- my ass)
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:40 PM
May 2018

was helped to say what her focus as a first lady would be in ungrammatical basically broken English...awful. Typical Trump administration shit...worst worst in our history. I could have written a better statement in any language using google translator.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
32. Donald is the best so how could anyone else be best?
Tue May 15, 2018, 01:41 PM
May 2018

Unless the message was for Donald. Since she spoke about cyber-bullying, it might be for him.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
34. As a slogan, it may not have to be grammatical...
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:04 PM
May 2018

but what does it mean? A good slogan would point you in the direction of a behavior, a goal or a program. Be best at what? This is way too general. I mean her husband is the best, the best at lying. Does that count?

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
38. in an "ESL" sensibility, it's probably fine
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:22 PM
May 2018

Like "Me first" from a toddler is okay,

but from another standpoint, Melania should have worked with some savvy marketer who might have steered her to a phrase that was more "pleasing to the ear"....and who might have talked Donald's folks out of saying Melania "created" a document that was so easy to source..(and proved yet another lie)

no_hypocrisy

(46,067 posts)
39. Best is not commonly used as an adverb.
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:25 PM
May 2018

Best is usually an adjective or a verb. As a superlative, it is used to describe an action rather than a status. (John throws best or John throws the best.)

"Be best" is an incomplete thought and conveys no message, as opposed to "Do your best".

Alethia Merritt

(147 posts)
40. The subject is understood to be "You".
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

Thus, the sentence seems to be grammatically correct. It would just sound better if it were "Be the best."

planetc

(7,803 posts)
43. Yes, it's a correct Hortatory sentence.
Tue May 15, 2018, 03:10 PM
May 2018

Back in the dark ages, when I learned grammar, right after the teacher explained that a sentence must always have both a subject and a predicate, she explained that hortatory sentences have a subject that's understood rather than stated. So, the structure of hortatory sentences is: [You], Help me! or [You], Be best!

So the writer is perfectly within his or her grammatical rights to use a hortatory sentence, but an exclamation point would have helped. But even with one, many people would have jumped on it for being ungrammatical because it's socially acceptable to jump on Mrs. Trump. To the jumpers I say: Be Nice!

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
42. Actually a lot of people looked at it and noticed it was grammatically incorrect. Unfortunately
Tue May 15, 2018, 02:44 PM
May 2018

it wasn't the people who could have made a difference before the decision was made. Of course Melania probably doesn't think it was a mistake, because she owns it. But imagine what the response would have been if Michelle Obama had made "Be Best" the name of a FLOTUS program directed at young school age children. They would have tried to run her and her husband out of town for trying to ghetto-rize the nation's children and turning them into hood-lings with that kind of street talk, while undermining the values they were trying to teach them at home.

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