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This isn't a commentary on Chrysler products, or even cars. It is about that ad series. I *really* like the attitude, the city scenes, the staging, the gospel choir, the Detroit accent of the narrator, the in-your-face nature of it all. It is unapologetically American without a bit of flagwaving and false patriotism.
It is gritty and urban and hopeful. It portrays the beauty of a place written off as dead. It is chin-out-proud.
I like it.
http://www.chrysler.com/en/ifd/
Matariki
(18,775 posts)And as low as 14 mpg city. All the feel good ads in the world aren't going to help with that.
http://www.chrysler.com/en/performance/2012/
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)But then again, I live way out in the sticks. If there were a hybrid or electric pickup that could do farm work like I have to do, I'd love to have it.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)lol. You could actually SEE the gas gauge needle creeping back.
Of course the thing DID kick ass.
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)To update a phrase I used downthread, that's a truck that can haul ass and a 30' trailer. I put Flowmasters on mine. Sounded great and got another couple-three mpg. Then the oil pump quit and took that engine with it. Now it's sitting in the yard waiting for me to be employed again. Hubby wants to electrify it (I'm not sure of the hauling capability) and I'm leaning toward Mopar. I guess we'll figure it out by summer. I hope. Lord, I need a job.
mitchtv
(17,718 posts)bad on gas , she was called "the Blue Sow"
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Most of them commuting to and from their office jobs.
Anyway, I really wanted to root for Chrysler while watching that ad, but then I clicked on the fuel efficiency link and was disappointed. If they want to not suck and move forward into the future, they're going to have to do better than that.
HillWilliam
(3,310 posts)hotazz muscle cars and I'm sure that's pretty hard to shake. It'd be nice to see them come out with a decent electric but I'm not holding my breath.
My best girlbuddy in high school used to roar around the county in her dad's Fury III. My gawd that car could fly. The first time her dad handed me the keys he said, "There's only one way to drive a car like that: like you stole it. Do *not* baby my baby." I still love that car, though it's long, long gone. It sacrificed its life for my girlbuddy. Went right through a telephone pole but she only banged her knee. Got a couple of stitches, that was it.
Now that was a car that could haul ass and a 20' trailer. (wistful sigh)
(Yeah, there are lotsa gay motorheads. I'm one. My partner is another.
)
Kurmudgeon
(1,751 posts)Just bought it in early November, it's been wonderful and I expect a long life out of it, just the same as my 2000 Grand Caravan that I'll have owned a dozen years this coming January. My daughter's fiance drives it to work most every day, heck, even it does better than 14 mpg, so does my 2004 Ram 2500 Diesel and I don't even expect good fuel mileage out of it and it runs 16-17 generally.
The only Chrysler product listed getting 14mpg is a Hemi SRT Chrysler 300, and that's a high performance engine, being a little disingenuous, aren't we?
EOTE
(13,409 posts)The four banger 200s get upwards of 30mpg. Also, the nearly 300 hp 300 V6 gets 31 mpg when combined with the 8 speed. A 2 ton sedan with nearly 300hp and 31mpg? That seems pretty damned good to me.
Matariki
(18,775 posts)Look up those vehicles here for the combined mpg: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/
Your example of the 300 V6 for instance gets 21mpg combined (18 city, 27 highway).
Here's a link: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/PowerSearch.do?action=noform&path=1&year1=2012&year2=2012&make=Chrysler&model=300&srchtyp=ymm
EOTE
(13,409 posts)It's in the very link that you provided. 31mpg highway is damned good for a 2 ton sedan. Much less one with nearly 300hp.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)I'm looking at the City miles - the best is 21mpg and the worse 14mpg.
Looking at the cars' COMBINED miles at http://www.fueleconomy.gov isn't much better. Looking at those numbers the cars get 24mpg for the 200 and a paltry 20 mpg for the Town and Country. Those numbers are TERRIBLE and none come close to hitting the CAFE standards for 2012.
If Chrysler wants to succeed, they aren't going about it the right way. The world doesn't need a whole new fleet of gas guzzling, fuel INEFFICIENT cars.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)Matariki
(18,775 posts)*What* doesn't support *which* assertion?
I just posted facts from http://www.fueleconomy.gov - the "official US government source for fuel economy information".
Unless you want to discuss the factual information about these cars, I can't see much point in a conversation with you. I certainly don't understand your one-liner snark.
bhikkhu
(10,789 posts)but that was really well done!
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)Good stuff. I like it for Detroit's sake, and I like it for what it is.
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)Perfect scenes, the Eminem music, the whole tone of it. It made me just think 'fuck yeah!' an emotional advertisement about the whole culture of Detroit and rebirth of both auto manufacturing and a city. I hope the guys that came up with that ad got big bonuses.
Bozita
(26,955 posts)malthaussen
(18,567 posts)But it kind of reminds me of "What's good for General Motors is good for the USA."
-- Mal
RZM
(8,556 posts)But Muddy Waters is Chicago, via Mississippi. I thought it worked better with Eminem, who is commonly associated with Detroit. There are lots of Detroit musical artists whom I'm sure would be happy to license their music to these ads.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)WildEyedLiberal
(12,799 posts)I think it's a brilliant campaign and I really enjoy the ones with the Eminem song backed by the Gospel choir, but yeah, the nitpicker part of me went "huh?" when I heard the Jay-Z song. It's a minor complaint, though, and I guess they probably need a bit of variety instead of just playing "Lose Yourself" in every ad.
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)Seeing that commercial does not make me want to buy a car from them.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)It didn't have to be that way. Greed killed Detroit. Greed to get manufacturing done as cheap as possible in third world countries.
LisaM
(29,634 posts)It was an astonishing event and I had a wonderful time. The Tigers had made the playoffs; it was Restaurant Week, the exhibits at the DIA were amazing. Belle Isle looked good, and there were lots of regular people out for runs while the bikers went by.
Just like in the Chrysler ads, there were people hanging out on porches waving at us. We rode to areas just a few miles from the heart of downtown and there were nice neighborhoods. Everyone stopped at Gabriel Richard park and ate apples and socialized.
Wheelhouse Detroit sponsored the event, and there was a lot of good biking on the waterfront. Afterwards, there was a party by the old depot with live music and donated food and beer.
It was a fantastic time, and the undiminished spirit of the people was a beautiful thing to see. It's not that easy to bike 25 miles with tears in your eyes part of the way, but it made me proud that my famiy has deep ties to Detroit.
I don't think you should call it a shithole. It's an uninformed, mean-spirited comment and I find it extremely offensive. But, I've been on DU since 2001 and the things I've heard said about Detroit over that time would make an angel weep. The level of insensitvity about a once-beautiful city that keeps trying and trying is not something I would expect in a progressive community.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)was there recently and it's def not a shithole, i had the advantage of being there in this beautiful autumn we had this year, so gorgeous
i bet it was a blast to do the bike event there...
LisaM
(29,634 posts)Tour de Troit. They do it every year in September. And the hotels give you a good deal; I stayed at the Book Cadillac for $129 and have a view of the river.
William769
(59,147 posts)I look forward to it's comeback in all aspects not just cars.
OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)They were just too expensive for us to consider. Even the lowly Chrysler 200 was like $19,000!
But the Chrysler 200's and 300's are damn sexy cars. Wish I had the dough.
I like owning american cars. My wife and I have had seven American vehicles over the years. (mostly fords)
Dodge Ares, Ford Escort, Lincoln Town Car, Ford Taurus, Eagle Talon and 2X Ford Focus.
The only new (american) cars we could consider this time were the cheap Ford Fiesta, Chevy Aveo and Ford Ranger. And to be honest, the Aveo and Fiesta were just too cramped to be practical. Finally it came down to the cheap Ford Ranger and a Kia Soul. We ended up going with the Kia - my father scoffed at "the import" but we're happy with it. Despite the Ranger being a truck, the Soul was much more practical. Good saftey, good warranty, good economy, and comfortable seating for 4.
So after over half a dozen American cars, we finally bought a foriegn car.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)OneTenthofOnePercent
(6,268 posts)To be honest, I don't think much about SS. I pay into it as required and if it's still around when i retire then great... if not, then I doubt my complaining will help. But as much as everyone bitches about it, by the time I reture I'll be surprised if it's still around.
Romulox
(25,960 posts)HappyMe
(20,277 posts)The first ad during the Superbowl was stunning. Both in the message and the way it looked.
PassingFair
(22,451 posts)Especially the Eminem one, even though I'm not a huge fan of his.
They're taking a big chance with the "gritty-ness"
...advertising studies show
that people don't want to be reminded of reality.
Faygo Kid
(21,492 posts)Exported to DC for now.
1620rock
(2,218 posts)Faygo Kid
(21,492 posts)Semi-retirement to the Traverse City area, and I'm determined.

Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)The ad was a big deal back then.
Kinda getting old now IMO (and I live in Detroit).
I hope they come out with an updated version for this year's Super Bowl.
Stinky The Clown
(68,952 posts)And yes, as a matter of fact I did miss the sooperbowl. Intentionally.
pitohui
(20,564 posts)i am not gonna buy a chrysler because of an ad but the ads are well done and i wish them every success
i'll stick w. my ford, i hope that's still imported from detroit...!
zipplewrath
(16,698 posts)Helps a bit I'm from Michigan originally. I've seen the impact directly. Flint, Detroit, and a whole host of cities that are suffering greatly, predominately to forces outside of their direct control.
There's a "down but not out" attitude to the whole thing. The irony is also a bit thick too. Folks have been buying "imported" cars for decades, made right here in the USofA. So here ya go, we're imported. Imported from Detroit.