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This Is Why Evangelical Christians Love Israel (VICE on HBO, Full Segment) (Original Post) Quixote1818 May 2018 OP
Yeah, I don't get these people Zing Zing Zingbah May 2018 #1
And according to the Bible you can't speed up the apocalypse Quixote1818 May 2018 #2
I guess they didn't get that info in their bible Cliff Notes. Lol! n/t Zing Zing Zingbah May 2018 #3
They're not miserable, they're devout. A few years ago Hortensis May 2018 #7
Well, they hate everybody, so I guess they want us all to die in the apocalypse. SunSeeker May 2018 #12
I was a part of a church like this. Initech May 2018 #14
I'm the opposite TlalocW May 2018 #27
I wonder how the Israeli people feel about this Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #4
Clearly Israel knows it helps them get what they want so they just go with it. nt Quixote1818 May 2018 #5
The Israeli politicians seem to find it useful. Crunchy Frog May 2018 #8
And these people are in high levels of our armed forces especially the Air Force nt maryellen99 May 2018 #6
Why do these so called Christians love the apocalypse? Initech May 2018 #9
Because THAT is the only way to ensure Christ returns. MicaelS May 2018 #18
I think it's because the apocalypse is a giant revenge fantasy for them jes06c May 2018 #25
Suicide Cult HAB911 May 2018 #10
Yep. n/t dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #24
It's all about getting Jesus here...the sooner the better... cynatnite May 2018 #11
But Jesus is already here; his spirit is everywhere, according to Christian teachings. SunSeeker May 2018 #13
It's the end times stuff. That's a lot of the schtick. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #15
But Jesus' teachings in the Bible don't include any of that end times craziness. SunSeeker May 2018 #16
I never said it made sense. LOL. n/t cynatnite May 2018 #17
True. nt SunSeeker May 2018 #23
I figure they're killing Jesus every time He returns... hunter May 2018 #19
That is why so many of them don't care about our decimation of the environment misanthrope May 2018 #20
But, but, they're kicking Palestinian Christians out of their homes too? Ligyron May 2018 #21
What a load of codswallop. trof May 2018 #22
Same reason global warming offends them so greatly... Thomas Hurt May 2018 #26

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
1. Yeah, I don't get these people
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:37 AM
May 2018

Why would anyone want to bring about an apocalypse? These people must be miserable. Suicide isn't an option for them because of their beliefs, so we all have to die? Seems rather selfish to me.

Quixote1818

(28,930 posts)
2. And according to the Bible you can't speed up the apocalypse
Wed May 16, 2018, 11:07 AM
May 2018

It would happen when God wants it to happen and that was set in stone since the beginning of time. They talk about humans not having control of global warming and yet they think they can bring on the apocalypse?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. They're not miserable, they're devout. A few years ago
Wed May 16, 2018, 12:15 PM
May 2018

I think it was Pew identified 30 million adults who sincerely believed we've all been living in end times and expected the apocalypse any time. They ranged from eager to not so but accepting. And they vote their beliefs.

As said, the general idea is that Jews will ally with Christians to fight Satan and his Muslim hoards (reportedly fighting out of Russia and Iran, but it seems Russia may have been restyled by some). In the end the Jews and Muslims will wipe each other out, leaving the earth, and of course all the Mideast's holy sites, to the Christians and their god.

A particularly nasty sect or two believe their god requires all Jews to return to Israel for the final battle, and to that end they believe whatever means necessary will be required to force unwilling Jews to leave their homes to go die on the far side of the world. Just a little suggestive of the WWII Holocaust, but they insist it won't be them doing the forcing and killing, but their god and then Satan's forces.

Initech

(100,068 posts)
14. I was a part of a church like this.
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

And I left for that very reason - the church was growing in numbers and *ALL* they did was teach the Book Of Revelations. After 9/11 I decided I did not want to be a part of a doomsday worshipping cult and that was one of the best decisions I ever made!

TlalocW

(15,381 posts)
27. I'm the opposite
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:13 PM
May 2018

They keep saying so-and-so is the anti-Christ (last big one was, of course, Obama), but they fight against him. I would think that they would want the AC to succeed so they can get their Rapture on.

TlalocW

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
4. I wonder how the Israeli people feel about this
Wed May 16, 2018, 11:48 AM
May 2018

and how they sleep at night knowing that their country's existence is essentially the lynchpin of the Apocalypse being eagerly anticipated by Christian death cultists?

Initech

(100,068 posts)
9. Why do these so called Christians love the apocalypse?
Wed May 16, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

You'd think that they would want to be more like Jesus in that they would want to help their fellow man, instead they're more like Satan and wish nothing but death and destruction.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
11. It's all about getting Jesus here...the sooner the better...
Wed May 16, 2018, 01:47 PM
May 2018

I grew up in this stuff and it was always about getting Jesus here, end of the world, anti-christ and all that jazz. It was a weird fascination that creeped me out.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
16. But Jesus' teachings in the Bible don't include any of that end times craziness.
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:51 PM
May 2018

Just like he never condemned homosexuality or abortion.

Yet those three issues form the pillars of their faith. Which to me says they're all just a hate cult who want us all to die in the apocalypse...because they hate us. Hating anyone is in total contravention of what the Bible says Jesus taught us to do.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
19. I figure they're killing Jesus every time He returns...
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:56 PM
May 2018

... rejecting all Incarnations in futile hope of a straight white guy who will bless their guns and forgive their sins.

God Holy Mother of the Universe is not amused.

misanthrope

(7,411 posts)
20. That is why so many of them don't care about our decimation of the environment
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:02 PM
May 2018

They think it's all going up after the "End Times" anyway. Plus, they believe God "gave" the Earth and all its life to humanity to use like a piece of toilet paper anyway.

Ligyron

(7,632 posts)
21. But, but, they're kicking Palestinian Christians out of their homes too?
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:03 PM
May 2018

Wonder how Jebus and Hagee feel about that?

trof

(54,256 posts)
22. What a load of codswallop.
Wed May 16, 2018, 05:02 PM
May 2018

It's hard to get my head around that people actually believe these fantasies.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
26. Same reason global warming offends them so greatly...
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:02 PM
May 2018

If man can destroy the world and extinct ourselves.......well, that endangers the whole rapture and eternal life thing and their world view crashes.

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