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bronxiteforever

(9,287 posts)
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:54 PM May 2018

Tweet from Professor quoting Joseph Goebbels Diary echoing Cheeto


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"These are no longer humans. These are animals" - The Diary of Joseph Goebbels
November 3, 1939

Trump ramps up rhetoric on undocumented immigrants: 'These aren't people. These are animals.'
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Tweet from Professor quoting Joseph Goebbels Diary echoing Cheeto (Original Post) bronxiteforever May 2018 OP
I'm not even sure truth matters anymore. Nt BootinUp May 2018 #1
That is the desirable environment of a Fascist. Oneironaut May 2018 #6
Yes it does. mgardener May 2018 #26
I'm sure he heard one of his advisors (Miller?) say this and thought... CincyDem May 2018 #2
I thought he had Nazi books in his personal BootinUp May 2018 #4
May have inherited them from his dad. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #23
Agree that he has them but I doubt that he's read them and I'm sure he can't quote them... CincyDem May 2018 #31
Sarah Hucksterbee must answer to this in tomorrow's WH conference. oasis May 2018 #3
Weird Uncle Bill O'Reilly might be there to keep her safe from pesky reporters ProudLib72 May 2018 #5
O'Reilly comes to the rescue of a woman. Resurrects his career. oasis May 2018 #17
They would make a lovely couple....in a freak show. KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #25
Sarah:"look, I'm not going to get into a back and forth.." or "look, I haven't discussed this..." George II May 2018 #16
They should pepper her with complaints about Trump's comments oasis May 2018 #18
Or this Haggis for Breakfast May 2018 #20
Only a small chance for success. Besides, oasis May 2018 #22
Kick dalton99a May 2018 #7
On Dehumanization - - RandomAccess May 2018 #8
Most wartime propaganda is just that Wednesdays May 2018 #30
Yes, my ex used to talk about that after the war WhiteTara May 2018 #32
And General Kelly is playing the role of Heinrich Himmler HopeAgain May 2018 #9
Some were heroes! Lucky Luciano May 2018 #13
Unfortunately, NO. nt Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #14
This is an exaggeration. I know things are very bad... First Speaker May 2018 #15
yes, he would be a good stand in for Hess. WhiteTara May 2018 #33
Wow! kentuck May 2018 #10
It is becoming increasingly scary for all PoCs. Also more difficult Enoki33 May 2018 #11
As someone said..that is the language of genocide. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #12
Before that was the genocide against Native Americans workinclasszero May 2018 #28
Probably got that from his in house Nazi scumbag. Historic NY May 2018 #19
So he finally shows his true heart- copperearth May 2018 #21
This is chilling DesertRat May 2018 #24
Every day the rabbit hole gets alittle bit deeper Afromania May 2018 #27
Can we stop pretending they're not Nazis now? TheSmarterDog May 2018 #29

Oneironaut

(5,491 posts)
6. That is the desirable environment of a Fascist.
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:06 PM
May 2018

Truth becomes irrelevant, and even dangerous. It gets replaced by a bunch of lies repeated over and over again. Correcting the lies becomes so tiresome and pointless that everybody gives up and gives in.

CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
2. I'm sure he heard one of his advisors (Miller?) say this and thought...
Wed May 16, 2018, 09:58 PM
May 2018


...that’s a great phrase, I’ll have to use it. Not knowing for a second where it originated. The likelihood that djt has read Goebbles...zero. Odds of miller reading it...guaranteed.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
23. May have inherited them from his dad.
Thu May 17, 2018, 12:43 AM
May 2018

I'm not sure Dotard even knows that bookstores exist and they say he doesn't read much at all. He may keep them laying around to stay "connected" to Fred.

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CincyDem

(6,347 posts)
31. Agree that he has them but I doubt that he's read them and I'm sure he can't quote them...
Thu May 17, 2018, 11:56 AM
May 2018


I think he's got the retention of a gnat. The only reason he said that is because he heard someone else say that in the hallway on the way in. Just imagine that phrase in Stephen Miller's voice and it sounds so much more calculated. From Trump - its just the noise that comes out of his mouth as the wind whistles through his empty head.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
25. They would make a lovely couple....in a freak show.
Thu May 17, 2018, 12:49 AM
May 2018

Trying not to make fun of appearances, but the stuff that comes out of both their mouths....eww.

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George II

(67,782 posts)
16. Sarah:"look, I'm not going to get into a back and forth.." or "look, I haven't discussed this..."
Wed May 16, 2018, 11:20 PM
May 2018

oasis

(49,370 posts)
18. They should pepper her with complaints about Trump's comments
Wed May 16, 2018, 11:28 PM
May 2018

until she slams her notebook closed and dashes out of the back door.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
8. On Dehumanization - -
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:17 PM
May 2018

'Less Than Human': The Psychology Of Cruelty

During the Holocaust, Nazis referred to Jews as rats. Hutus involved in the Rwanda genocide called Tutsis cockroaches. Slave owners throughout history considered slaves subhuman animals. In Less Than Human, David Livingstone Smith argues that it's important to define and describe dehumanization, because it's what opens the door for cruelty and genocide.

"We all know, despite what we see in the movies," Smith tells NPR's Neal Conan, "that it's very difficult, psychologically, to kill another human being up close and in cold blood, or to inflict atrocities on them." So, when it does happen, it can be helpful to understand what it is that allows human beings "to overcome the very deep and natural inhibitions they have against treating other people like game animals or vermin or dangerous predators."

. . .

When the Nazis described Jews as Untermenschen, or subhumans, they didn't mean it metaphorically, says Smith. "They didn't mean they were like subhumans. They meant they were literally subhuman."

. . .

Then, within the human category, there has historically been a hierarchy. In the 18th century, white Europeans — the architects of the theory — "modestly placed themselves at the very pinnacle." The lower edges of the category merged with the apes, according to their thinking.

So "sub-Saharan Africans and Native Americans were denizens of the bottom of the human category," when they were even granted human status. Mostly, they were seen as "soulless animals." And that dramatic dehumanization made it possible for great atrocities to take place.

https://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134956180/criminals-see-their-victims-as-less-than-human

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I would like to point out that it's very hard to go to war and kill people if we haven't dehumanized them -- gooks, japs, jerries, and so forth.

WhiteTara

(29,699 posts)
32. Yes, my ex used to talk about that after the war
Thu May 17, 2018, 06:12 PM
May 2018

how they were told over and over again how these were not people and gave them terrible dehumanized names.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
9. And General Kelly is playing the role of Heinrich Himmler
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:23 PM
May 2018

Are we done with our military/generals worship yet?

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
15. This is an exaggeration. I know things are very bad...
Wed May 16, 2018, 11:10 PM
May 2018

...but Heinrich Himmler was sui generis. Comparing anyone to him is absurd. But if you had said Rudolf Hess, or Martin Borrmann, you'd be at least in the ballpark of plausibility...

Enoki33

(1,587 posts)
11. It is becoming increasingly scary for all PoCs. Also more difficult
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:53 PM
May 2018

to convince oneself that this is not politically and morally normal. Helps to remember we are better than the Putin puppet who kept, according to what his first wife told her divorce attorney, a copy of Mein Kampf in his bedside cabinet.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. As someone said..that is the language of genocide.
Wed May 16, 2018, 10:57 PM
May 2018


Did you know, the McKinley and Teddy Roosevelt Administration used those terms towards the Filipinos when we brought "democracy" to the Philippines in 1900.

Mass slaughter was the result. We also tortured and waterboarded them.
In 1900.

See: The Imperial Cruise, by James Bradley.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. Before that was the genocide against Native Americans
Thu May 17, 2018, 01:33 AM
May 2018

They were dehumanized with words like "redskin", "savages" etc.

copperearth

(117 posts)
21. So he finally shows his true heart-
Thu May 17, 2018, 12:11 AM
May 2018

This proves where Trump's slimy lizard heart lies-with the Nazi regime. He is one sick boogie! He is not fit to wash the feet of these tired immigrants who merely wish to come to a land where they aren't afraid of the crime. I think they would best stay in Mexico. This country is no longer a place where they can feel safe.

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