Has it sunk in yet DUers?

[malaise]

The President of the United States has admitted to paying a porn star for her silence days before the election.
This after denying the relationship and lying about the payment on a previous financial disclosure form.
If Groper Don the Con were a Democrat, the entire country would be calling for his resignation this morning.
The House would be moving on impeachment.

And then there's this

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210622751
Lock them the fuck up Mr. Mueller.

[TEB]

1. We all agree dear friend

[MFM008]

2. Exactly

Imagine all the pompous outrage from
The party of "family values"........

[7962]

4. Huge Hypocites. All who used to harshly criticize Dems for backing Bill Clinton.

"they only support him because he's their guy". Yeah, right.

[hughee99]

43. Exactly! The Republicans are hypocrites because they only think this sort of thing is wrong

when a Dem does it, but we're not hypocrites because we understand that this sort of thing is a private matter between a man and his wife (and girlfriend) no matter who is doing it.

[7962]

60. And dont preach about what everyone ELSE is supposed to do. nt

[7962]

3. Still not seeing whats going to put trump in a jail.

They'll never prove that campaign money was used to pay stormy. And even if they did, its not an offense that would put him in the slammer.
Trump is a scumbag and we already know that. But they cant put him in jail for being one. And if it does go the way the Clinton case did, the punishment will be for some lame Martha Stewart "lying to feds" case.
I see Mika going nuts right now because "there could be dozens of other women out there". I dont doubt it. But thats STILL not gonna get shitgibbon a jail cell

Maybe previous business dealings will get him. Shit from his NYC heyday.

[Sherman A1]

5. I suspect that

This sunk in to those that read this website long ago. You are preaching to the choir here, the problem is not those who read or participate in this discussion, it is those who do not.

[jimlup]

6. No truer words in the post than "if he were a democrat..."

I'm so fucking sick of the double standard we face.

[Scarsdale]

7. The gop has lowered

the bar for presidential behavior. Remember the outrage about President Obama's beige suit, Michelle's bare arms, shorts? Now we have a first "lady" with nude photos accessable to the entire world, a lying, cheating fake president, his useless kids with no security clearance, representing the country on the world stage. Grifting, money grubbing clan making this country look more like a banana republic daily. Thanks, gop. I hope the Russian money was worth selling your souls for.

[nolabels]

26. Don't worry (that is if we make it there), they will act like it never happened......

will ignore any attempt to bring the bigot in them forward. There is no way to set these selfish people in the correct direction so it's just a waste of energy if you think you wanted to try. The best thing to do is just to engage them to demonstrate to anybody observing how twisted they are. They feel entitled, cheated but still protest when they are not put first. People with such emotion in tow are not reasonable which is why any discussion with reason is a waste of time

I not holding out for any self-correction of any person, system or group. I think it will only happen when the dire situation needed arises to make that change. They cannot believe they were ever wrong and any bar we think might be there should be ignored. The rest of the animals in nature that runs around groups always do it that way, we should expect no less from them

[3catwoman3]

40. They have no souls, and the bar...

...is now resting in the Marianas Trench.

[safeinOhio]

8. A blue dress,

covered with a $130,000 stain.

[magicarpet]

9. Oh for goodness sakes.... Malaise is becoming such a prude.

I mean what can possibly be wrong with the presi-Dunce of the United States of America banging porn stars and romping around naked in the Ritz at Moscow, while they pee on each other. It brings dignity to the office of the President.

NO WAIT...
Malaise is right... this is shameful and embarrassing behavior by the most powerful man in the world.

How did this sex crazed man ever become president... There must be many more white supremacists Nazi Fascists in America than most people ever realized. trDump herded these Nazis together and got them to vote.

Putin/Russian Crime Syndicate Oligarchs and their filthy 💰 💰 💰 put this deranged Nazi in our White House so trDump could dismantle our Democracy.

__________

Love ya Malaise - you have an astute and delightful perspective of current affairs that you are kind enough to share with us here.

I was only just pulling your leg - in jest and humor.

[magicarpet]

11. PS.... Malaise has a wonderful baked peaches recipe stewed in some kind of liquor....

.... if she is in a good mood she will share that recipe with us again. Right around peach harvest season is a good time to bug her about that kitchen delight.

[malaise]

42. Not baked stewed

with brown sugar and red rum - served with coffee icecream

[magicarpet]

46. Well okay... Stewed peaches it is... My error.

I misplaced the recipe the first time around. But this time I captured it in my data base for future reference.

With coffee ice cream you say. Now that sounds just delicious.

I am a part owner of a restaurant. If we decide to put that item on the menu - I will be sure to forward a kick back commission your way.

[malaise]

47. LOL

You can serve it with pound cake as well - enjoy it - no need for kickbacks

[magicarpet]

49. .

[RoBear]

51. Oh, my!

I LOVE peaches, and that sounds like heaven on a plate or in a bowl or anywhere. Hope to see the recipe soon...

Distracted me for a moment, but I've been thinking the same thing about the repugs for some time now. Unbelievable. This is not the American ideal I grew up with. Beginning to look like we'll never achieve it...

Sometimes "fighting the good fight" seems an impossible thing to do.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

50. Hello? I thought I heard something

Something delicious.

Calling me.

“Hello? I’ll get there as soon as I can!!!!!”

[malaise]

52. LOL - from last year

https://www.democraticunderground.com/115765978

Now I want some myself - hope we find peaches in the market tomorrow - may be a week or two early.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

63. Oooooo, I must have some....

Nommmmmmmmm!

[Glamrock]

53. Whawhawhat!

And you haven't shared it with me? I thought we had something special between us honey. Soooo disappointed. And hurt. Oh yeah, real pain here. You know how much I dig the rum.

[malaise]

54. ROFL

[Glamrock]

55. Love ya babe!

[malaise]

56. Love you back

ImPEACHment!

[Glamrock]

58. Hahahaha!

You never fail to make me laugh!

[malaise]

21. May I borrow your magicarpet

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to escape this planet?

[magicarpet]

48. Well jeez.... I have never traveled beyond the earth ionosphere.

For interplanetary travel - I would really need to make this magicarpet launch pad ready to depart the Earth's atmosphere and enter zero gravity.

For a local jaunt you are welcomed to borrow my magicarpet at any time.

[pazzyanne]

10. "If Groper Don the Con were a Democrat, the entire country would be calling for his resignation this

I beg to differ. Knowing what I know about trumpers, they would be out in mass with pitchforks and guns. I know why we take the high ground, but it is so frustrating to watch this while trying to stay rational.

[Vinca]

12. There was nearly an impeachment over Dijon mustard.

[KatyMan]

33. And arugula

on a hamburger or something like that?

[3Hotdogs]

13. We're focusing on the wrong thing. Lock her up!

[Miles Archer]

14. Some days, there are just too many "WTF" moments in a single day

I find myself posting 2, 3, 4 utterly ridiculous headlines about the latest adventures of Trump and Rudy and Mikey the "C" and by the time the 5th shows up I have fatigue and think "I'm gonna let someone else post that. I'm tapped for today."

Avenatti threw another volley at Giuliani today:

Michael Avenatti
?
Verified account

@MichaelAvenatti

Mr. Giuliani - have you even tried a single lawsuit to a jury verdict in the last 15 yrs? Have you learned the facts of the case yet? They are not that complicated FYI. Do you need cliff notes on tape? #LongPastPrimeTime #OutToPasture #Tired #DazedConfused

8:32 PM - 16 May 2018

Link to tweet

,,,and there are days when it feels like the United States, via having Trump as our "president," has descended into a 24/7 penis measuring contest.

Facts KEEP surfacing about the Trump "Universe." And the response from Trump, via Rudy, is "YOU HAVE TO END THIS, YOU HAVE NOTHING!"

This has been Trump's entire life on the "national stage," stretching far back before his political aspirations. The political garbage started with his INVENTING the "birther movement" because he KNEW he could find an audience willing to buy into a lie if he sold it as aggressively as his fucking steaks. They did. That gave him a "green light" to do what he's doing now, with Ryan and McConnell as either his enablers or silent co-conspirators or both.

The ONLY encouraging aspect of ANY of this is that Mueller does not appear to be swayed AT ALL by the chest-thumping.

Lock them the fuck up indeed.

[Ilsa]

17. "...having Trump as our "president," has descended into a 24/7 penis measuring contest."

We should send a few thousand tailor's tapes, shortened to two inches, to Don the con.

[malaise]

22. It's amazing to watch

I can't process this madness

[Guilded Lilly]

39. I repeat the dumbfounded truth of your statement every single day, Malaise!...

“I can’t process this madness.”
Insanity.
Surrealism.
Twilight Zone.

And what kind of world will there be after this madness is stopped?
Will it ever truly stop even when these blights on humanity are removed?

Sheer horrific madness.

(I was hoping I would be too old for this shit and wouldn’t have to fight the daily anxiety of what will be the state of the world for my grandchildren)

[spanone]

15. EXACTLY

[Nitram]

16. Democrats have never given them the opportunity to know what it's like to be confronted with real

crimes and scandals. Bill Clinton's "crime" was a mere peccadillo. I'm not sure if they'd know what to do if faced with a real crime to investigate. They only know how to make stuff up.

[McKim]

59. Only a peccadillo?

Was Clinton’s lack of judgement just a peccadillo? Not in my eyes! His stupid and selfish behavior cost Al Gore the election and if Al Gore had won, we might never have had an Iraq War. Bad behavior on the part of a president has serious and deadly consequences. I hope with all my heart that Trump leaves office soon before we have more trouble heaped upon the world. Never trivialized what we all gave up because of Pres. Bill’s selfish and stupid behavior!

[Nitram]

64. The consequences you list, McKim were not proportionate to the "crime."

The special prosecutor was supposed to be investigating Whitewater. When they realized there was nothing there, they went on a fishing expedition, got lucky and stumbled on a mild consensual relationship, and used it to entrap Clinton in a lie under oath. I don't blame Clinton, I blame the Republicans who were out to get him no matter what. I challenge you to compare Clinton's "crime" to the myriad of real crimes Trump has committed during his first year in office. There is no comparison. Gore lost the election because the Republicans stole it in Florida with help from the Supreme Court, and Ralph Nader siphoned off votes in key swing states.

[unblock]

18. they're *still* upset about bill clinton "wagging his finger" denying it

eventually they impeached him for lying in court about it, but well before that, they were calling for his head simply because he lied to the public about it, as if people have a moral obligation to divulge private affairs to the public.

eventually they recognized that that at least wasn't an impeachable offense, so they waited until they got him being evasive in a civil case, so they had an actual crime they could accuse him of (clearly not a "high crime and misdemeanor" in the way the founders intended, but they gave congress to power to interpret that phrase).


but oh, wait, donnie does have a crime linked to his lied -- failure to disclose on fec forms, at a minimum.

[malaise]

23. The Con has lied to everyone

He should be impeached for this lie

[WhiteTara]

19. You mean the man is corrupt?!?!

shocked! shocked I tell you! I'm waiting for the next shoe. omg there is hugh shoe closet and we're going to see stuff bigly!

[malaise]

25. Duh - question

Do you think the gap between the 130,000 and $250,000 is to cover other payoffs for women or fees for Cohen?

U.S. President Donald Trump’s financial disclosure, released Wednesday, revealed for the first time that he repaid a debt of more than $100,000 (U.S.) to his personal attorney, Michael Cohen, in 2017, raising questions about whether his sworn filing from a year ago improperly omitted the transaction.

The disclosure, released by the Office of Government Ethics, did not specify the purpose of the payment. However, Cohen has paid $130,000 to adult film actress Stephanie Clifford, who has said she had an affair with Trump. Cohen has said he made the payment shortly before the 2016 election as hush money for Clifford, who goes by the stage name Stormy Daniels.

Trump repaid Cohen between $100,001 and $250,000 in 2017, according to a footnote in the filing, but he did not include that information on last year’s financial disclosure form.

[WhiteTara]

44. I'm sure the other 2 NDAs are in that amount.

but I want to know what happened to that 1.6 mil cohen paid for someone's abortion.

[Gothmog]

20. The letter to Rosenstein is amazing

Link to tweet

[malaise]

24. That alone should have forced his resignation

This has to be stopped

[beachbum bob]

27. Unfortunately, unless a law was broken...

Lying to the American people is the GOP norm....why critical for money trail to be examined for money laundering, tax evasion..BUT THIS IS JUST ONE TINY ASPECT.

[malaise]

28. Lying on your financial declaration is a crime

and it has been referred to DOJ

[treestar]

29. If it had come out right before the election

It might have sunk Comey and the emails in the media!

[UCmeNdc]

30. Agree!

[gademocrat7]

31. Chump and his cabal are treason weasels.

But when will justice be served?

[dawg]

32. This is why we've got to stop expecting things to be fair.

The Mueller investigation isn't going to take down Trump. Even if Mueller has him caught, red-handed, personally colluding with the Russians to steal the election.

Republican politicians and thought leaders simply will not care. And it is mathematically impossible to remove Trump from office without a significant number of Republican Senators going along. That's not going to happen without a massive shift in public opinion. But most Republican voters don't care either.

We're going to have to change our way of thinking. We're going to need to use every legal tool at our disposal to block them, upstage them, and take them down. We can't continue to take the high road, expecting that the voters will reward us for it someday. They won't.

[elocs]

34. Here is a reality check that too many seem can't accept: Trump is not going to jail

anymore than Bush and Cheney were going to be frog-marched to The Hague.
Just because you really, really want something to happen or it should doesn't mean it will.
Impeachment without conviction by the Senate is like sex without orgasm--ultimately unsatisfying. And Trump will not be convicted in the Senate. Republicans have thrown their lot in with Trump and will either sink or swim with him, but they've come too far down the road with Trump to casually reject him.
Certainly Trump could resign and then Pence would pardon him of everything even if it hasn't yet happened like Ford did with Nixon. But he is not going to jail--that's just our fantasy and wet dream.
And if the nation is purged of Trump, what of those tens of millions of loyal Trumpsters?
Are they going to simply have a Damascus Road experience and realize the error of their way, repenting of worshiping Trump as they meekly and gently go into that good night?
No way! They won't be going anywhere and things will get worse and more violent.
So we shouldn't for a moment delude ourselves into thinking that in having Democrats take Congress and the White House will result in Nirvana in America. Just the judges alone that Trump has appointed and will appoint will affect the nation for up to a generation.
So we had better anticipate and prepare for the consequences of getting rid of Trump.

As it stands now in the U.S. this is going to be a war without end with battles won and lost on both side. Unfortunately looking at past history, I don't have a lot of confidence in the Left to persevere and be vigilant.

[bearsfootball516]

41. It would be for the best if more people understood this.

It’s tiring to read all the posts everyday of posters saying they can’t wait to see Trump and his family locked up soon. Not because it isn’t a great image, but because it’s just simply not going to happen, and we are much better off using our energy to gear up for the midterms and kick Trump out of office the only way we can...by beating him in 2020.

There is a 0 percent chance he and his family go to jail, and the chances he steps down for any reason other than losing the 2020 election are minuscule. People will get mad at me for saying that. But it’s the truth.

[Demovictory9]

35. and he dictated what his doctor was to write about this health, all the while implying the other

candidate was on death's door

[malaise]

36. all lies all the time

This is beyond sick

[Demovictory9]

37. and didn't show the American people his tax returns. Sneaky lying porn star paying fool

[JustAnotherGen]

38. Won't sink in for me

Until next January.

Until then I'm not holding my breath. The Republicans in Congress don't care what he does.

If they cared, they wouldn't continuously backtrack (looking at you Mr. Graham).


They aren't patriots or true Americans.

Until we have a House and Senate filled with real true and loyal Americans we are stuck with the piece of shit.

[world wide wally]

45. Can I make a citizen's arrest of a sitting President?

[mucifer]

57. I care more about the treason

[gyroscope]

61. Schumer and Gillibrand are suddenly silent

when before they were screaming and shouting for Franken's head.

we know who the DLC are working for, and it isn't we the people.

[ollie10]

62. Good point!