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dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:45 PM May 2018

The List That Proves Trump Is 'Moving Quicker Than Hitler'


Guys, this is deadly serious. Pls. read the article. And check out the list.
I have been reading the list for several weeks now. I no longer have a sense of humor when it comes to Trump. He and his owners are moving so fast...

http://theweeklylist.org/

Amy Siskind started writing things down - she was shocked by what she found.
It was the aftermath of Donald Trump's shock victory in the 2016 election and - aside from his toddler-like Twitter tirades, his blatant mocking of minorities and his self-confessed entitlement to "grabbing" women - Amy Siskind started to feel like something wasn't right.

"Unlike our typical republican or democrat, Trump didn't have policies or a vision," Siskind, author of The List: A Week-by-Week Reckoning of Trump's First Year (Bloomsbury, $35), tells whimn.com.au. "Much of his campaign was based on attacking others - he was using metaphors, like the Mexican wall, to actually target people who were not white and much of his uprising had very much a populist feel."

Siskind, a former Wall Street executive, began reading up on past authoritarian regimes where she found disturbing similarities to the happenings in her own country. One expert in particular recommended writing things down to avoid the "frog in water to coming to boil" effect - basically, where things change so slowly, degree by degree, that they start to seem normal.

So Siskind began keeping her own record: a week-by-week list of actions taken by the Trump regime that pose a threat to existing democratic norms. Starting with just nine items, The List is now filled with more than 160 after Trump's first year in power.

But despite the list expanding at "a rather alarming pace", Siskind has found most of the disturbing impingements on democratic rights are going largely unnoticed. "I find that each week as the list has grown that probably 80% of our news coverage goes to 20 to 30% of the stories and the rest of the stories in the weekly list either get single-source coverage or just local coverage," Siskind explains.
http://www.whimn.com.au/talk/people/the-list-that-proves-trump-is-moving-quicker-than-hitler/news-story/a409170d635a4c7676164a5bd2dbc6c3?utm_source=whimn&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=editorial

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Initech

(100,104 posts)
1. Except Trump isn't the real Hitler we need to worry about. It's Putin.
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:55 PM
May 2018

Simple fact is Russia currently is far more like Nazi Germany than we are. While we weren't looking, they invaded Crimea. They turned the UK against the European Union. They turned Catalonia against Spain. They stole a US presidential election. They got their supporters and neighboring countries to turn against LGBT rights issues. They have turned the world elections upside down. They have a massive troll army stroking people's fears and emitting their darkest secrets about hate and white nationalism. And they have the power to launch a giant rocket called Satan 2 anywhere in the world and wipe out an entire civilization. Trump's disposable. He's a fall guy. Putin is the real threat to the world we need to worry about. And we had better do something about it before it's too late.

unblock

(52,329 posts)
2. Donnie is normalizing this crap for the next guy.
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:26 PM
May 2018

Just imagine the next guy being actually competent at being a right-wing asshole authoritarian leader.

Donnie is merely setting the stage. And he's doing a really effective job at it, unfortunately.

The next guy will be able to step right in and do all sorts of horrible things and the media will praise how capable and effective he is.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
5. Your summary makes sense and lines up with another DU post about being "post coupe."
Thu May 17, 2018, 10:31 PM
May 2018

I find it amazing to talk to folks about such a scenario – such as at my physical therapist (for Achilles tendonitis). Most don't seem to really know what's going on... They do have a strong conviction that something is wrong, thankfully, and don't need convincing that we need to vote like crazy on November 6.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
6. People ARE talking about it a LOT on Twitter
Thu May 17, 2018, 10:43 PM
May 2018

I was surprised how many are following Siskind's posts, and her book about the list is selling fast.
( Dunno about Facebook response, I do not go there).

One of the concerns is that we have done nothing about the hackable voting machines.
Plus there has been little desire from the Dems to bring up the obviously hacked election.
so I am not sure what we face in Nov.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,571 posts)
9. There may be many parallels to totalitarian regimes of the past.
Fri May 18, 2018, 12:02 AM
May 2018

Not even "may be." There definitely are. But one thing that's lacking, especially in the case of 1920's and 1930's Germany is the mix of social, political and economic conditions.

The Weimar Republic was born out of the aftermath of the German humiliation of the Versailles Treaty. It imposed many onerous conditions on the country and was the kind of "spit-in-your-face-because-I-can" contracts that Drumpf would, somewhat ironically, impose on a defeated enemy.

Territories were reapportioned and new boundaries drawn, the economy was in a hyperinflation so dire that bank notes were being taken out of service, then reissued with zeroes added. People would paper their walls with them because they were cheaper than wallpaper. An attempt to rein it in went too far, and a fast deflation put Germany into a serious depression.

There were serious paramilitary groups on both the right and left....far more serious and far more powerful than the groups of rabble posing as "militia" in modern-day America.

Events unfolded with far less publicity than today, largely because there was no electronic media, let alone an Internet keeping people informed, often minute-by-minute.

Clearly, the forces trying to divide and conquer in the US are powerful, and serious. They have probably made significant inroads into many of these issues, especially along racial lines.

At least they can't identify and blame the single most dangerous group by far - the vastly rich. the ones that benefit the most, at least for now. Eventually, if the puppetmasters get their way, it will be the oligarchs of Russia calling the shots.

I just don't see a takeover of the same magnitude as happened in the middle of the last century in Europe. I really hope I'm not merely whistling past the graveyard.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. "the mix of social, political and economic conditions".
Fri May 18, 2018, 12:26 AM
May 2018

provided a perfect rationale for the rise of a Hitler, yes. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to identify what people are pissed about and rise to power on promises to make it all better.
Hitler and his time was not a one off.

The long arc of history has clearly shown us peoples have been subjugated by power hungry heads of stateiwho used all sorts of excuses.

The actual PROCESS that he used to gain power is the same process that others have used, and it is that process,
that we are seeing now, here.

I don't want a take over of ANY magnitude.

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