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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
Fri May 18, 2018, 02:59 PM May 2018

Republicans don't give a s**t about school security..

If they did, they would fund extra federal money to prevent such shootings.. In a Republican state, then the state legislature has to commit funds. If the state legislature doesn't do it, then the local school district has to fess up extra money for security. Not one security guard. No enough security to check every student entering the school. All students through metal detectors or body searched....

Oh...you don't like it?...Well 10 years ago,..yes...that is not yesterday, I was invited to judge, as a teacher a program just like the "science fair" that everyone knows about..But it was a history fair for students who did research on Chicago and neighborhood history. So..I went to the high school for the day. I saw that all students had to enter through one entrance where they went through metal detectors and pat searches if necessary......
This was a neighborhood school in the Chicago Public Schools.. not really a fancy school system. And I might add, in a very good neighborhood, and a very high quality school. (ten years ago)

Why?........Columbine I suppose..but I am not sure if it was directly after that, or some years after another shooting. But it seems that many school systems instituted security systems to prevent this, and funded it..(no it ain't cheap..not just one police officer..but a whole program of security).And the Chicago Public Schools where one of those programs were set this up.....Did so at great expense.....
....But.in certain places many school boards did not think it was/is necessary to spend that kind of money on security..Perhaps that thinking will change. Maybe certain states will think they are "immune to this." Unfortunately, those states will learn the "hard way".........Oh by the way.......question for the crowd...

Can you get into Congress without being searched for security?..that is can you get into the office building or where they actually meet to hold votes?...Do you need to be searched to get in?...I don't know, cause I haven't been there lately... Do you know?...Does Congress take care of its own?

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Republicans don't give a s**t about school security.. (Original Post) Stuart G May 2018 OP
I hate to say it, but... TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #1
Of course the problem is not just "security"...It is a gun culture.. Stuart G May 2018 #2
The problem with security TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #3
 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
1. I hate to say it, but...
Fri May 18, 2018, 03:08 PM
May 2018

No other schools in the world outside of maybe extremely expensive private schools have any meaningful security at all.

My kid's school here in Ireland doesn't have a security guard, or a metal detector. No one learns to shelter in place. There's no active shooter drills of any sort actually.

The same is true EVERYWHERE except America... and yet... no school shootings.

If American school have to be safe from monthly gun attacks, well... the problem isn't school safety.

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
2. Of course the problem is not just "security"...It is a gun culture..
Fri May 18, 2018, 03:12 PM
May 2018

After Columbine..it was OK to go into a high school and kill. Sorry the only solution, at this point in time in the U.S.A. is security. I suspect that when you enter Congress, there is "security." But we will all find out when we get answers to this question today..You want a "safe high school" in today's post Columbine world, then you have to have security. Ok, in other countries, you do not need it. But here, in this gun culture, the answer is yes, you do need it.

 

TimeSnowDemos

(476 posts)
3. The problem with security
Fri May 18, 2018, 03:48 PM
May 2018

Is that it costs a lot and does very little.

As we've seen repeatedly.

As long as there's 300,000,000 guns in America, there will be 10s of thousands of deaths a year, including endless kids.

It's also worth noting that it's been going on for decades. In fact the worst school massacre in America was the FIRST one. It was called the Bath School Disaster "which killed 38 elementary schoolchildren and six adults and injured at least 58 other people".

That was in 1927.

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