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By Mark Mazzetti, Ronen Bergman and David D. Kirkpatrick
May 19, 2018
WASHINGTON Three months before the 2016 election, a small group gathered at Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump Jr., the presidents eldest son. One was an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation. Another was an emissary for two wealthy Arab princes. The third was a Republican donor with a controversial past in the Middle East as a private security contractor.
The meeting was convened primarily to offer help to the Trump team, and it forged relationships between the men and Trump insiders that would develop over the coming months past the election and well into President Trumps first year in office, according to several people with knowledge of their encounters.
Erik Prince, the private security contractor and the former head of Blackwater, arranged the meeting, which took place on Aug. 3, 2016. The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the crown princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president. The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his companys ability to give an edge to a political campaign; by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.
The company, which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers, specialized in collecting information and shaping opinion through social media.
More: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html
eleny
(46,166 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)..... .....
MelissaB
(16,420 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)gademocrat7
(10,644 posts)Have baby cannon pin and sweatshirt.
Gothmog
(144,919 posts)Gothmog
(144,919 posts)RKP5637
(67,086 posts)easier in some ways.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)all these I don't recall muthafuckas.
RKP5637
(67,086 posts)people that still support this creep as president. It's clearly a gangster operation.
I love how they claim nothing came of the meeting. Riiiiiiight. We'll see what Mueller finds. He has people cooperating who will know.
Merlot
(9,696 posts)is enough.
spanone
(135,791 posts)politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)a year if they are meddling in our elections.
Doodley
(9,036 posts)lark
(23,061 posts)It also hardens my total disdain for Israel and shows them to be even bigger haters than I thought. They actively supported a neo-Nazi when they chose drumpf. They have met the enemy and became them. OMG, we are so fucked. How can we beat all these regimes willing to pay billions to get the criminal elected so he will do as they demand?
dhol82
(9,352 posts)Netanyahu is part of the extreme far right.
He has brought the nation into a bad place.
lark
(23,061 posts)I'm sure there are peacniks there too, but they don't control anything, In fact, their left seems very weak from here, ours is more robust. We actually had the majority of votes, but Russia/Repus and other bad actors stole the election in key states by very slim majorities, in fact 2 states were won by the exact same percentage - 1.7%.
OMGWTF
(3,941 posts)They are imprisoning, torturing, and murdering an entire population and fking getting away with it.
Doodley
(9,036 posts)Leghorn21
(13,522 posts)but that could not possibly have been the ONLY time the traitors gathered to ply their wicked machinations on the worlds democracies, right?!
This was somewhat borne out by Avenattis c-span footage this week, eh? Theres that head Qatar guy, hopping on the golden elevator with whomever...do whatever...
Anyway, yeah, more to come, film at 11 and such like that...
GOOD
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)That was quite obviously a verbal message sharing mission.
But hey, I will take this latest revelation with gusto...Mueller nailed Prince. Ole Erik is long long overdue for a comeuppance.
He has so many bodies to his name.
eggplant
(3,908 posts)The rest of the gang, too, but him especially.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He has a much higher lethality level.
eggplant
(3,908 posts)Erik wouldn't be satisfied if there wasn't a lot of killing as well.
dalton99a
(81,392 posts)RKP5637
(67,086 posts)overthrow/twist the US election process. It's really smelling of espionage IMO.
triron
(21,984 posts)Despite being perhaps hard to prosecute it's still treason no matter how it's spun.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)kacekwl
(7,013 posts)they march the whole criminal cabal down Pennsylvania Blvd. In Orange suites and chains towards prison letting any who want give them a swift kick in the behind and a shower of rotten eggs. Oh to dream.
kentuck
(111,052 posts)When will it end?
lordsummerisle
(4,651 posts)Trump et al will continue pushing the envelope. The Rethugs in Congress won't stop him which means he won't be stopped. Even if the Dems win the House this year the consensus is that there won't be the votes in the Senate to impeach which will further embolden him. Also by then there could quite possibly be a permanent right-wing SCOTUS so you can imagine what the rulings from such a court would be...
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,488 posts)to impeachment proceedings. Considering his narcissism and dictatorial personality, I see him absolutely losing it. And, if any of the kids or Kushner are indicted, that will be a show in itself.
Those things, plus New York charges and emolument cases, and Stormy Daniels....things surely will be far more chaotic than now.
Perhaps Republicans don't even care if the Presidency is completely dysfunctional.....
Thoughts?.......
mercuryblues
(14,522 posts)A group within the FBI, voter suppression, a troll farm and hackers, 3 countries and their spy agencies to defeat Clinton. And she still got more votes.
Can we finally put it put it to rest that she was a horrible candidate? She would have won almost all the electoral votes if it wasn't for these factors.
pandr32
(11,553 posts)I'm thinking she won more than three million votes more than the dumpster, too.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html
Last spring, Mr. Nader traveled to Riyadh for meetings with senior Saudi military and intelligence officials to pitch his Iran sabotage plan. He was convinced, according to several people familiar with his plan, that economic warfare was the key to the overthrow of the government in Tehran. One person briefed on Mr. Naders activities said he tried to persuade Mr. Kushner to endorse the plan to Crown Prince Mohammed in person on a trip to Riyadh, although it was unclear whether the message was delivered.
Asked about Mr. Naders plans to attack Iran, the senior Saudi official said Mr. Nader had a habit of pitching proposals that went nowhere.
Mr. Nader was also in discussions with Mr. Prince, the former head of Blackwater, about a plan to get the Saudis to pay $2 billion to set up a private army to combat Iranian proxy forces in Yemen.
Since entering the White House, Mr. Trump has allied himself closely with Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. His first overseas trip was to Riyadh. He strongly backed Saudi and Emirati efforts to isolate their neighbor Qatar, another American ally, even over apparent disagreement from the State and Defense Departments.
This month, Mr. Trump also withdrew from an Obama administration nuclear deal with Iran that both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had campaigned against for years, delivering them their biggest victory yet from his administration.
Am I insane to say that this shows a quid pro quo of the Israeli group and the Saudis, who both wanted to start a war with Iran? They agreed to assist trump in exchange for him removing us from the Iran Deal? I think that this might trump (pardon the pun) the Russian involvement quid pro quo. This is designed to start a WAR!
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)When world power and leaders meet a stalemate economically they start wars to resolve the impasse and make money.
Oil, steel, commodities, technology, manufacturing, rubber - they all make a lot of money from war.
hkp11
(275 posts)as long as, money flows into their bank accounts/hidden bank accounts, that's all that matters - whatever it takes (by unethical ways, by criminal ways) to enrich themselves, even if they are working with their enemies. Religion and past history goes by the way side. You would think that Israeli officials would be appalled at buffoon's support for Neo-Nazis and not work with him, but they are blinded by the $$$ and chance to take down Iran, so they are in. The Arab monarchs should be appalled at buffoon's Muslim/Islam and immigration statements, but when they can make more $$$ from oil, and take down Iran, then they are in also.
Then all the rich American swamp in WH - buffoon, buffoon's cabinet and all around him want their piece of the pie $$$.
none care about the planet, the humans on the planet - it's only about themselves and their own families - they have $$$ to fly to their hideaways and live in rich opulence.
bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)bartered or sold away, including public access, environmental laws, banking regulations, and more.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,129 posts)Response to MelissaB (Original post)
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BigmanPigman
(51,567 posts)Now it seems like it is being blown off and not taken seriously. Are people losing interest?
Old Randy Rainbow "Cohen: So What?".
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)that could be me calling him.. I love him.
Backwoodsrider
(764 posts)Pay to play is the new norm. Get used to the Trump crime family they like it in the whitehouse. Only way the fundamental Trump followers turn on Trump is if he is seen holding his own aborted fetus and he doesn't have a workable excuse.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Squinch
(50,911 posts)Why didn't WE know about this???"
Uncle Joe
(58,284 posts)Thanks for the thread MelissaB
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)This is getting ridiculous.
Doodley
(9,036 posts)orangecrush
(19,409 posts)triron
(21,984 posts)Recommended.
AZ8theist
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FUCK YOU, DUMP and your smug, imbecilic spawn. I hope you all rot in Guantanamo SOON you fucking traitorous ASSHOLES!
Soon you will be reviled as the most hated pieces of shit since Hitler and Arnold.
GoCubsGo
(32,074 posts)JDC
(10,114 posts)Everything, and I mean everything he does is shady and corrupt.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)out on some sort of international jobs website?
"Help us win the election, and we'll owe you a favor..."