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MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:20 PM May 2018

Saturday Bombshell: Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election

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Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election

By Mark Mazzetti, Ronen Bergman and David D. Kirkpatrick
May 19, 2018

WASHINGTON — Three months before the 2016 election, a small group gathered at Trump Tower to meet with Donald Trump Jr., the president’s eldest son. One was an Israeli specialist in social media manipulation. Another was an emissary for two wealthy Arab princes. The third was a Republican donor with a controversial past in the Middle East as a private security contractor.

The meeting was convened primarily to offer help to the Trump team, and it forged relationships between the men and Trump insiders that would develop over the coming months — past the election and well into President Trump’s first year in office, according to several people with knowledge of their encounters.

Erik Prince, the private security contractor and the former head of Blackwater, arranged the meeting, which took place on Aug. 3, 2016. The emissary, George Nader, told Donald Trump Jr. that the crown princes who led Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates were eager to help his father win election as president. The social media specialist, Joel Zamel, extolled his company’s ability to give an edge to a political campaign; by that time, the firm had already drawn up a multimillion-dollar proposal for a social media manipulation effort to help elect Mr. Trump.

The company, which employed several Israeli former intelligence officers, specialized in collecting information and shaping opinion through social media.

More: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html
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Saturday Bombshell: Trump Jr. and Other Aides Met With Gulf Emissary Offering Help to Win Election (Original Post) MelissaB May 2018 OP
The doo just got deeper eleny May 2018 #1
And Jr is covered in it. MelissaB May 2018 #3
. eleny May 2018 #10
Boom! from the baby canon MelissaB May 2018 #2
I love the baby cannon Gothmog May 2018 #5
Love the baby cannon too. gademocrat7 May 2018 #35
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2018 #64
From my twitter feed Gothmog May 2018 #65
Phew, I'm amazed Mueller and his teams can keep track of this. With Nixon it was probably RKP5637 May 2018 #4
They can and they are. THE BEST is gonna be when they refresh the foggy memories of Kirk Lover May 2018 #14
This nation, the world, is so fortunate to have Mueller and his teams. I can't imagine RKP5637 May 2018 #16
LOL manor321 May 2018 #6
It doesn't matter if anything came of the meeting, the fact that they took it Merlot May 2018 #58
if they get away with this, the 'world' will be electing our 'presidents' from here on out.... spanone May 2018 #7
My question is why are we still helping to finance Israeli's defense budget to the tune of $3.8B politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #8
Yes, why only 3.8b - surely Trump will increase that to thank them! Doodley May 2018 #11
We moved our embassy to Jerusalem, that's worth more than billions to them. lark May 2018 #33
Many Israelis were opposed to this. dhol82 May 2018 #52
Israel's government is far right, just like ours. lark May 2018 #62
Israelis are now Nazis regarding the Palestinians. OMGWTF May 2018 #63
That's two Trump Jr collusion meetings, that we know of. How many were there? Doodley May 2018 #9
That's what I been wondering, Doodley!! We have heard endless tales of the "adoption" meeting, Leghorn21 May 2018 #18
Need to find out what happened when JarJar flew to Saudi Arabia and back in 24 hours. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #39
Of all the players, I'd most like to see EP in leg irons. eggplant May 2018 #41
I understand perfectly. dixiegrrrrl May 2018 #43
The rest of them would be content to just heist as much money as they can. eggplant May 2018 #55
Kick dalton99a May 2018 #12
I wonder, when does some of this move into treason, conspiring with other nations to RKP5637 May 2018 #13
Meets the definition. triron May 2018 #32
Eric Prince ! Betsy Wetsy... Oh my how interesting... pangaia May 2018 #15
What a FINE "Christian" family ladym55 May 2018 #50
Lock them up! Kingofalldems May 2018 #17
Oh goody...just heard Creepo Miller was in the room too. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #19
god damn these traitorous bastards, the lot of them. I want to see them rot in prison NightWatcher May 2018 #20
I won't be happy untill kacekwl May 2018 #34
How deep does this crap go? kentuck May 2018 #21
It won't. It will go on indefinitely lordsummerisle May 2018 #51
On the other hand, I'm trying to fathom how he will react.... KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #61
So now we are up to mercuryblues May 2018 #22
Yup--exactly pandr32 May 2018 #27
Read the last few paragraphs here with me and help me out. NightWatcher May 2018 #23
You sound surprised. It's a time tested formula. bucolic_frolic May 2018 #26
$$$ is what's it all about hkp11 May 2018 #42
Sovereignty bucolic_frolic May 2018 #24
KR NT ProudProgressiveNow May 2018 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #28
In any other era this would be all over the news for months BigmanPigman May 2018 #29
Randy Rainbow keeping me laughing and sane. mountain grammy May 2018 #36
nothing to see here move on Backwoodsrider May 2018 #30
K&R BlueJac May 2018 #31
Kick mountain grammy May 2018 #37
Somalia is going, "Shit! Everyone ELSE manipulated that election and can blackmail trump now. Squinch May 2018 #38
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2018 #40
Lock these bastards up already! smirkymonkey May 2018 #44
It's okay. They were only talking about adopting babies. Doodley May 2018 #45
K&R! orangecrush May 2018 #46
kick for visibility triron May 2018 #47
COLLUSION AZ8theist May 2018 #48
Kick. Rec. GoCubsGo May 2018 #49
Erik Prince is a criminal. JDC May 2018 #53
Did Team Trump have a "For Sale" sign NewJeffCT May 2018 #54
Yep Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2018 #56
President Donald Trump (R PetroFascism) stuffmatters May 2018 #57
kick again triron May 2018 #59
The United States is up for sale to the highest bidder. nt Kirk Lover May 2018 #60

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
4. Phew, I'm amazed Mueller and his teams can keep track of this. With Nixon it was probably
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:25 PM
May 2018

easier in some ways.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
14. They can and they are. THE BEST is gonna be when they refresh the foggy memories of
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:32 PM
May 2018

all these I don't recall muthafuckas.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
16. This nation, the world, is so fortunate to have Mueller and his teams. I can't imagine
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:34 PM
May 2018

people that still support this creep as president. It's clearly a gangster operation.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
6. LOL
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

I love how they claim nothing came of the meeting. Riiiiiiight. We'll see what Mueller finds. He has people cooperating who will know.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
8. My question is why are we still helping to finance Israeli's defense budget to the tune of $3.8B
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

a year if they are meddling in our elections.

lark

(23,061 posts)
33. We moved our embassy to Jerusalem, that's worth more than billions to them.
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:01 PM
May 2018

It also hardens my total disdain for Israel and shows them to be even bigger haters than I thought. They actively supported a neo-Nazi when they chose drumpf. They have met the enemy and became them. OMG, we are so fucked. How can we beat all these regimes willing to pay billions to get the criminal elected so he will do as they demand?

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
52. Many Israelis were opposed to this.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:33 PM
May 2018

Netanyahu is part of the extreme far right.
He has brought the nation into a bad place.

lark

(23,061 posts)
62. Israel's government is far right, just like ours.
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:37 AM
May 2018

I'm sure there are peacniks there too, but they don't control anything, In fact, their left seems very weak from here, ours is more robust. We actually had the majority of votes, but Russia/Repus and other bad actors stole the election in key states by very slim majorities, in fact 2 states were won by the exact same percentage - 1.7%.

OMGWTF

(3,941 posts)
63. Israelis are now Nazis regarding the Palestinians.
Sun May 20, 2018, 01:14 PM
May 2018

They are imprisoning, torturing, and murdering an entire population and fking getting away with it.

Leghorn21

(13,522 posts)
18. That's what I been wondering, Doodley!! We have heard endless tales of the "adoption" meeting,
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:46 PM
May 2018

but that could not possibly have been the ONLY time the traitors gathered to ply their wicked machinations on the world’s democracies, right?!

This was somewhat borne out by Avenatti’s c-span footage this week, eh? There’s that head Qatar guy, hopping on the golden elevator with whomever...do whatever...

Anyway, yeah, more to come, “film at 11” and such like that...

GOOD

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
39. Need to find out what happened when JarJar flew to Saudi Arabia and back in 24 hours.
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:20 PM
May 2018

That was quite obviously a verbal message sharing mission.

But hey, I will take this latest revelation with gusto...Mueller nailed Prince. Ole Erik is long long overdue for a comeuppance.
He has so many bodies to his name.

eggplant

(3,908 posts)
41. Of all the players, I'd most like to see EP in leg irons.
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:54 PM
May 2018

The rest of the gang, too, but him especially.

eggplant

(3,908 posts)
55. The rest of them would be content to just heist as much money as they can.
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:57 PM
May 2018

Erik wouldn't be satisfied if there wasn't a lot of killing as well.

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
13. I wonder, when does some of this move into treason, conspiring with other nations to
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

overthrow/twist the US election process. It's really smelling of espionage IMO.

triron

(21,984 posts)
32. Meets the definition.
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:54 PM
May 2018

Despite being perhaps hard to prosecute it's still treason no matter how it's spun.

kacekwl

(7,013 posts)
34. I won't be happy untill
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

they march the whole criminal cabal down Pennsylvania Blvd. In Orange suites and chains towards prison letting any who want give them a swift kick in the behind and a shower of rotten eggs. Oh to dream.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
51. It won't. It will go on indefinitely
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:27 PM
May 2018

Trump et al will continue pushing the envelope. The Rethugs in Congress won't stop him which means he won't be stopped. Even if the Dems win the House this year the consensus is that there won't be the votes in the Senate to impeach which will further embolden him. Also by then there could quite possibly be a permanent right-wing SCOTUS so you can imagine what the rulings from such a court would be...

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
61. On the other hand, I'm trying to fathom how he will react....
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:18 AM
May 2018

to impeachment proceedings. Considering his narcissism and dictatorial personality, I see him absolutely losing it. And, if any of the kids or Kushner are indicted, that will be a show in itself.

Those things, plus New York charges and emolument cases, and Stormy Daniels....things surely will be far more chaotic than now.

Perhaps Republicans don't even care if the Presidency is completely dysfunctional.....

Thoughts?.......

mercuryblues

(14,522 posts)
22. So now we are up to
Sat May 19, 2018, 01:59 PM
May 2018

A group within the FBI, voter suppression, a troll farm and hackers, 3 countries and their spy agencies to defeat Clinton. And she still got more votes.

Can we finally put it put it to rest that she was a horrible candidate? She would have won almost all the electoral votes if it wasn't for these factors.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
23. Read the last few paragraphs here with me and help me out.
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:17 PM
May 2018


https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/trump-jr-saudi-uae-nader-prince-zamel.html


Last spring, Mr. Nader traveled to Riyadh for meetings with senior Saudi military and intelligence officials to pitch his Iran sabotage plan. He was convinced, according to several people familiar with his plan, that economic warfare was the key to the overthrow of the government in Tehran. One person briefed on Mr. Nader’s activities said he tried to persuade Mr. Kushner to endorse the plan to Crown Prince Mohammed in person on a trip to Riyadh, although it was unclear whether the message was delivered.

Asked about Mr. Nader’s plans to attack Iran, the senior Saudi official said Mr. Nader had a habit of pitching proposals that went nowhere.

Mr. Nader was also in discussions with Mr. Prince, the former head of Blackwater, about a plan to get the Saudis to pay $2 billion to set up a private army to combat Iranian proxy forces in Yemen.

Since entering the White House, Mr. Trump has allied himself closely with Saudi Arabia and the Emirates. His first overseas trip was to Riyadh. He strongly backed Saudi and Emirati efforts to isolate their neighbor Qatar, another American ally, even over apparent disagreement from the State and Defense Departments.

This month, Mr. Trump also withdrew from an Obama administration nuclear deal with Iran that both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates had campaigned against for years, delivering them their biggest victory yet from his administration.



Am I insane to say that this shows a quid pro quo of the Israeli group and the Saudis, who both wanted to start a war with Iran? They agreed to assist trump in exchange for him removing us from the Iran Deal? I think that this might trump (pardon the pun) the Russian involvement quid pro quo. This is designed to start a WAR!

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
26. You sound surprised. It's a time tested formula.
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:24 PM
May 2018

When world power and leaders meet a stalemate economically they start wars to resolve the impasse and make money.
Oil, steel, commodities, technology, manufacturing, rubber - they all make a lot of money from war.

hkp11

(275 posts)
42. $$$ is what's it all about
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:56 PM
May 2018

as long as, money flows into their bank accounts/hidden bank accounts, that's all that matters - whatever it takes (by unethical ways, by criminal ways) to enrich themselves, even if they are working with their enemies. Religion and past history goes by the way side. You would think that Israeli officials would be appalled at buffoon's support for Neo-Nazis and not work with him, but they are blinded by the $$$ and chance to take down Iran, so they are in. The Arab monarchs should be appalled at buffoon's Muslim/Islam and immigration statements, but when they can make more $$$ from oil, and take down Iran, then they are in also.

Then all the rich American swamp in WH - buffoon, buffoon's cabinet and all around him want their piece of the pie $$$.

none care about the planet, the humans on the planet - it's only about themselves and their own families - they have $$$ to fly to their hideaways and live in rich opulence.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
24. Sovereignty
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

bartered or sold away, including public access, environmental laws, banking regulations, and more.

Response to MelissaB (Original post)

BigmanPigman

(51,567 posts)
29. In any other era this would be all over the news for months
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

Now it seems like it is being blown off and not taken seriously. Are people losing interest?


Old Randy Rainbow "Cohen: So What?".

Backwoodsrider

(764 posts)
30. nothing to see here move on
Sat May 19, 2018, 02:36 PM
May 2018

Pay to play is the new norm. Get used to the Trump crime family they like it in the whitehouse. Only way the fundamental Trump followers turn on Trump is if he is seen holding his own aborted fetus and he doesn't have a workable excuse.

Squinch

(50,911 posts)
38. Somalia is going, "Shit! Everyone ELSE manipulated that election and can blackmail trump now.
Sat May 19, 2018, 03:19 PM
May 2018

Why didn't WE know about this???"

AZ8theist

(5,409 posts)
48. COLLUSION
Sat May 19, 2018, 06:03 PM
May 2018

COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,
COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION, COLLUSION,

FUCK YOU, DUMP and your smug, imbecilic spawn. I hope you all rot in Guantanamo SOON you fucking traitorous ASSHOLES!

Soon you will be reviled as the most hated pieces of shit since Hitler and Arnold.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
54. Did Team Trump have a "For Sale" sign
Sat May 19, 2018, 08:51 PM
May 2018

out on some sort of international jobs website?

"Help us win the election, and we'll owe you a favor..."

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