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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:41 AM May 2018

Black, Female and Running for Governor: Can She Win in the South?

ROME, Ga. —
Stacey Abrams hopes to become the first black woman ever elected governor in the United States. Ms. Abrams, a former minority leader of the Georgia House, is also testing a risky campaign strategy: that a Democrat can win a statewide election in the Deep South without relying on the conservative-leaning white voters long considered essential.

Her rival in Tuesday’s Democratic primary, former State Representative Stacey Evans, has scorned Ms. Abrams’ strategy as unrealistic and “unhealthy for democracy.”

The dispute between the two well-regarded contenders is not merely the latest Democratic feud over how to break the Republican lock on the South. The stark differences in strategy — and the choice of candidates themselves — reflect the conflict among Democrats over the types of voters and the kinds of politicians that the party should elevate in the Trump era.

Even some Democrats believe that nominating a single, black, unabashedly liberal woman at this racially charged moment — and in the old Confederacy, no less — is nothing less than political suicide. But if Ms. Abrams, who is expected to prevail Tuesday, goes on to win in November, her victory would demonstrate the intensity of the Trump backlash in a state that is nearly half nonwhite. And the shock waves would be felt far beyond Georgia’s borders.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/19/us/politics/governor-georgia-primary-democrat-stacey-abrams.html

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Black, Female and Running for Governor: Can She Win in the South? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 May 2018 OP
I heard an in-depth interview with Abrams on NPR about a month ago and mtngirl47 May 2018 #1
Many hard-core conservatives were still registered Democrats Hortensis May 2018 #7
Georgia is 32% black and 9% Hispanic BumRushDaShow May 2018 #2
The big mistake for GA Democrats is to assume homogeneous black and Hispanic voters aikoaiko May 2018 #10
And I think it is a mistake to assume BumRushDaShow May 2018 #11
That's my point. We often say white Democratic voters, but then just Black/POC voters. aikoaiko May 2018 #12
I hope she does win!!! onecent May 2018 #3
I don't know. I doubt she can win statewide. Demsrule86 May 2018 #5
Voter registration GeoWilliam750 May 2018 #4
When the Democratic Party is divided along racial lines... yallerdawg May 2018 #6
Imagine for a moment. Just . . . imagine. OneBro May 2018 #8
Democrats in GA have two good choices. aikoaiko May 2018 #9
The game plan was set next door, in Alabama... Wounded Bear May 2018 #13

mtngirl47

(989 posts)
1. I heard an in-depth interview with Abrams on NPR about a month ago and
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:55 AM
May 2018

she spoke of her time as minority house leader when she helped make compromises and built bridges across the aisle.
She's also worked on voter registration programs.

Everyone forgets that just 40 years ago Georgia was a Democratic state that sent Jimmy Carter to the White House and had one of the most powerful Democratic Senators, Sam Nunn up until he retired in 1997. Atlanta has had Democratic mayors since the late 1800's.

I think she has a good chance.


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
7. Many hard-core conservatives were still registered Democrats
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:54 AM
May 2018

40 years ago. Remember, parties used to be mixed ideologically, and the Democratic Party had a very troublesome faction of strong Southern conservatives, often given to extremism, plus others from around the nation. Many despicable acts attributed to "Democrats" in the past were committed by these Southern Democrats. Majority Democrats and Republicans frequently allied to keep them in check.

Thinking of "40 years ago," remember the days of rabid Southern Democrat conservatives siccing troops and dogs on protesters? That was just 15+ years before then. The 1964 civil rights act caused most Southern conservatives to finally join the conservative-dominated the Republican Party, but many still remained.

The Jimmy Carter delusion: Carter was a small-government, anti-progressive, moderate conservative with some social liberal positions who despised liberal Democrats. He gained the Democratic nomination by doing an end run around party leaders who knew what he was and sold himself directly to an electorate who did not by portraying himself as anti-corruption and promising great change (a lot like Sanders' strategy, only Carter succeeded).

Note that in 1976 we elected a Democratic president AND a Democratic majorities in the house and senate. In spite of that magnificent opportunity to achieve real progressive advances, Carter spent much of his one very mediocre term fighting congress's attempts to do just that.

I voted for Abrams, btw. Her genuinely newsworthy run is being pumped up by national media (they develop new figures to create new interest), as we see, and she's drawn a lot of support from organizations outside the state. Even if she doesn't win, this should be a watershed election for Georgia, which is half female and a third black.

BumRushDaShow

(128,916 posts)
2. Georgia is 32% black and 9% Hispanic
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:30 AM
May 2018
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/GA

If only they, along with white Democrats, would come out to vote en masse, then there is a chance. But like everything else, it is all in the GOTV and dealing with voter suppression - particularly in rural areas.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
10. The big mistake for GA Democrats is to assume homogeneous black and Hispanic voters
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:20 AM
May 2018


There are a lot of conservative Black and Hispanic voters in GA. Yes they are core Democratic voters but we could lose a significant number if we don’t treat them well l.

BumRushDaShow

(128,916 posts)
11. And I think it is a mistake to assume
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:28 AM
May 2018

homogeneous white voters in GA either.

Just as a thought - there are quite a few black "northern transplants" (including many of my cousins) who moved to the Atlanta metro area. They are very politically astute and it would not be surprising if they had some influence on their friends, neighbors, and coworkers there.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
12. That's my point. We often say white Democratic voters, but then just Black/POC voters.
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:59 AM
May 2018

I agree with you with the shifting demographics. There are a lot of northern transplants, both white and black, migrating to ATL and coastal GA. For the most part, native-born GA Democrats and transplant Democrats are working well together, but there is a low-level tension, too. Even among Democrats, the term "carpet-baggers" is used.

Hopefully, some big wins will help solidify and energize the party.


GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
4. Voter registration
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:38 AM
May 2018

GOTV

Be well prepared for the foulest opposition campaign

Ms Abrams would probably have a very good chance

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
6. When the Democratic Party is divided along racial lines...
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:40 AM
May 2018

we lose.

This isn't Stacey Abrams' fault.

This is Democrats letting them divide us!

OneBro

(1,159 posts)
8. Imagine for a moment. Just . . . imagine.
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:07 AM
May 2018

Yesterday, today, and tomorrow, it has ALWAYS been about GET OUT THE VOTE! Can you even imagine the emotional and mental boost southern democrats would get if she wins? In Georgia? Just tell me how to help make it happen!

Go get 'em, Stacey Abrams!

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
13. The game plan was set next door, in Alabama...
Sun May 20, 2018, 11:09 AM
May 2018

Turnout, turnout, turnout...

GOTV.

However you say it, it's all about motivating people to vote.

I wish her luck!

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