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When did you last socialize in the home of someone of a different race than you or vice versa? (Original Post) EffieBlack May 2018 OP
Good question. But then I can't remember... mwooldri May 2018 #1
Same here, lol. onlyadream May 2018 #2
Last weekend gollygee May 2018 #3
Yesterday* mcar May 2018 #4
In their home? Never. trof May 2018 #5
Outside of immediate family, I do not socialize. Kaleva May 2018 #6
Including my wife? grantcart May 2018 #7
Does my sister (Native American) count? Ms. Toad May 2018 #8
Not in a really long time Piasladic May 2018 #9
South of New Port Richey...the middle and bottom of Pinellas are quite diverse Sancho May 2018 #75
24/7 populistdriven May 2018 #10
All of my grandchildren are mixed race The Blue Flower May 2018 #11
At least once a month - Nanjeanne May 2018 #12
I can't remember. murielm99 May 2018 #13
Everyday still_one May 2018 #14
Kind of depends on your definition of socialize and race rurallib May 2018 #15
Agreed. I guess I need a list of races dumbcat May 2018 #19
If you don't know what I mean by race, just apply whatever definition you usually apply EffieBlack May 2018 #21
Fair enough dumbcat May 2018 #39
Yes, a list of the races is necessary. jalan48 May 2018 #20
Only for those either too obtuse to understand a commonly-used word or is just seeking to disrupt EffieBlack May 2018 #23
Back at it I see. jalan48 May 2018 #27
Only if you try me EffieBlack May 2018 #34
LOL jalan48 May 2018 #35
It was a sincere question rurallib May 2018 #48
My response wasn't directed to you EffieBlack May 2018 #50
Your patience in dealing with certain people is impressive. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #81
Poor you who can't figure this out, what will you do? bettyellen May 2018 #43
Funny how no one demands definitions when white DUers accuse black DUers EffieBlack May 2018 #45
Yuck, yuck. jalan48 May 2018 #59
Right, elleng May 2018 #24
When my in-laws come to town on their annual summer visit jpak May 2018 #16
Does my wife count? If not, then two weeks ago. yardwork May 2018 #17
we socialize with people of other races frequently ... kwassa May 2018 #18
If Latino is considered "different race," then about three weeks ago Glorfindel May 2018 #22
May 14 thru 18 H2O Man May 2018 #25
The last time I had a taco tuesday. Lunabell May 2018 #26
Last Friday Bok_Tukalo May 2018 #28
I am one of the few white people in my neighborhood. When OldHippieChick May 2018 #29
Well everyday, since I socialize with my wife everyday. kennetha May 2018 #30
Ages. cilla4progress May 2018 #31
Friday. Squinch May 2018 #32
Last night. Cary May 2018 #33
About a week ago JackInGreen May 2018 #36
Last dinner parties 2016 MaryMagdaline May 2018 #37
About six weeks ago Wawannabe May 2018 #38
8,9 months ago. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #40
A couple of months ago. A colleague of my wife is Hispanic, and put on a big St. Patrick's Day bash. Aristus May 2018 #41
Years. Igel May 2018 #42
Whenever Oscar night was this year cagefreesoylentgreen May 2018 #44
Any intention of answering this question yourself? oberliner May 2018 #46
Hey, boo! I was wondering if you were going to show up EffieBlack May 2018 #52
I'm a pasty white guy in SoCal. Codeine May 2018 #47
About 4 months ago. nt Blue_true May 2018 #49
yesterday TimeSnowDemos May 2018 #51
I never socialize except with family, which is all white. Chemisse May 2018 #53
How about you? When was the last time for you? Squinch May 2018 #54
Today Wolf Frankula May 2018 #55
yesterday n/t dogknob May 2018 #56
Now that you ask the question, I'm not invited very often to their homes. aikoaiko May 2018 #57
I don't remember when it was, but it was second most recent time I did so mythology May 2018 #58
Right now, as a matter of fact... First Speaker May 2018 #60
At least every week treestar May 2018 #61
Well, unless you count a couple of kids birthday parties... cynatnite May 2018 #62
I am white---late dinner, and a hang early this evening, after playing an orchestra concert, pangaia May 2018 #63
About once a week. safeinOhio May 2018 #64
This past Friday. Stinky The Clown May 2018 #65
Between work, volunteering and kid's activities, I can only think of one time we socialized OhioBlue May 2018 #66
Today NBachers May 2018 #67
I don't know. A long time. krispos42 May 2018 #68
I hung out with my wife today NickB79 May 2018 #69
is it cheating? catsudon May 2018 #70
A long time ago.... Adrahil May 2018 #71
I hardly ever invite anyone home, KitSileya May 2018 #72
I haven't socialized in the home of ANYONE Bettie May 2018 #73
In my part of FL...work, neighborhood, and church are all diverse... Sancho May 2018 #74
Player in my Dungeons & Dragons game is AfAm. LanternWaste May 2018 #76
My house. If African American, Mexican, Asian, Indian, First nations, and Puerto Ricans count. elehhhhna May 2018 #77
Weekly. a la izquierda May 2018 #78
Every single day! JustAnotherGen May 2018 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Runningdawg May 2018 #80
Every other weekend GrapesOfWrath May 2018 #82
Wait!!! RobinA May 2018 #83
When I was 19, back in '80 or '81.... Iggo May 2018 #84

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
1. Good question. But then I can't remember...
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:07 PM
May 2018

... the last time I socialised with anyone outside family. I'm not one for socialising. But yeah, I need to socialise more with people. Race matters not to me.

mcar

(42,307 posts)
4. Yesterday*
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:10 PM
May 2018

*Attended a grad party for the daughters of our good friends. The friends are white; they adopted the girls (correction: amazing young women) from Ethiopia in 2001. The entire extended family travels there next month - the family has a 3 generation history of working in Ethiopia and elsewhere in Africa doing public health and charity work.

trof

(54,256 posts)
5. In their home? Never.
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:11 PM
May 2018

In my home?
Maybe a dozen times.

Me: WASA
White Anglo Saxon Atheist

Them: African American

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
7. Including my wife?
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:15 PM
May 2018

Or my son in laws?

Three races, four religions, five nationalities in our nuclear family, lol.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
8. Does my sister (Native American) count?
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:16 PM
May 2018

Last time before that was August. (Last time I socialized in a home other than family member's: August)

In my home - December (also the last time I had social visitors)

Piasladic

(1,160 posts)
9. Not in a really long time
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:21 PM
May 2018

Not since I got back from Peace Corps, but then I don't socialize much, and I live in a REALLY, REALLY white area...

https://www.clrsearch.com/New-Port-Richey-Demographics/FL/34655/Population-by-Race-and-Ethnicity

The last time I tried to socialize in Florida was with a coworker (white lady), and she turned out to be a rabid trumpist, so I decided to stay home thereafter.

Sancho

(9,069 posts)
75. South of New Port Richey...the middle and bottom of Pinellas are quite diverse
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:56 AM
May 2018

My wife works in North Pinellas, and you're right - it's very white and very tRump.

The Blue Flower

(5,442 posts)
11. All of my grandchildren are mixed race
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:26 PM
May 2018

Does that count? They happen to be the most beautiful, intelligent, and loving children I've ever known.

Nanjeanne

(4,959 posts)
12. At least once a month -
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:27 PM
May 2018

more in good weather with neighbor. Once a month with another friend in book club. Is there some reason you are asking?

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
13. I can't remember.
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:29 PM
May 2018

It has been a long damn time. And I have black friends though the Democratic Party. I need to start thinking more and acting on it.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
15. Kind of depends on your definition of socialize and race
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

could be anywhere from a couple of hours ago to about 15 years ago

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
19. Agreed. I guess I need a list of races
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:41 PM
May 2018

I learned many decades ago that there were only three. But now it seems to be commonly accepted that there are more. And I have also heard from good, progressive sources that there is only one race.

So I need the OP to provide a list of what she considers to be “races”.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
21. If you don't know what I mean by race, just apply whatever definition you usually apply
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:50 PM
May 2018

in the numerous instances in which I’m sure you have heard the term used.

If that’s too difficult, please feel free to just not answer.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
39. Fair enough
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:40 PM
May 2018

So I would have to say that I socialize every day in the home of my wife (which is also mine), who is Chinese. In the 50's when we learned the three races she would have been considered Mongoloid. Nowadays, I suppose the term is "Asian."

The one I was struggling with is whether to count my neighbor, with whom I spend time in his back yard drinking beer and playing with our smokers and grills trying different recipes. He is of Mexican/Hispanic heritage and his wife is from El Salvadore, and I read many places that such Hispanic heritage is counted as another race. But in my upbringing and definitions, he is white (what we used to call Caucasian.)

That was what got me thinking. Do I count Garcia as a person of another race? I don't, but I suspect many would.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
23. Only for those either too obtuse to understand a commonly-used word or is just seeking to disrupt
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:52 PM
May 2018

No one else seems to having any trouble with the question.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
48. It was a sincere question
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:54 PM
May 2018

Does it include Latino?
Is that a race? Some would say yes, some no.

Can't read your mind. Could have answered the question (frustrated as you may be with a question like that) with respect or you could lash out and call me disruptive and imply I am stupid.

Sorry you feel that way. I do enjoy the challenges to perspective your posts bring.

Sorry to have bothered you. I shan't bother you again.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
50. My response wasn't directed to you
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:02 PM
May 2018

It was directed to the sparky demand from a particular poster for a "list" which wasn't a sincere question but intended to disrupt.

The definition is whatever you want it to be.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
81. Your patience in dealing with certain people is impressive.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:59 PM
May 2018

I have two wishes

a. win 100 million dollars, no wait 100 billion (that way I can buy the KOCH bros and put them out of business)

b. watch non POC live under the control and power of POC for one month

It would be both VERY funny to watch and very very sad.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
45. Funny how no one demands definitions when white DUers accuse black DUers
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:40 PM
May 2018

of "race-baiting," "making everything about race," being "racially decisive," or "unfairly" accusing white people who engage in racist behavior of engaging in racist behavior.

But let a black DUer ask when the last time anyone interacted with someone of another race, and suddenly, folk need an advanced seminar on the etymology of the word "race" before they can answer the question.

Go figure.

elleng

(130,895 posts)
24. Right,
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:52 PM
May 2018

I was gonna ask 'what's race,' but didn't want to make a fuss.

Indian/Pakistani different race? 'Socialized' for the past week in his home, and will do so again Thursday-Friday in my home.

Couple months ago visited with African American former officemate in my home for an afternoon, and many times prior to that (including her wedding 20? years ago.)

2 years ago, attended wedding of mixed race, African American/Caucasian former neighbor.

40 years ago 'socialized' with my African American husband.

yardwork

(61,599 posts)
17. Does my wife count? If not, then two weeks ago.
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:32 PM
May 2018

My wife is Latina, I'm white, and we had a friend over for dinner a couple weeks ago. She is African American.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
18. we socialize with people of other races frequently ...
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:38 PM
May 2018

but usually in public settings, not in anybody's home.

then there is Thanksgiving, a massive family reunion of the wife's family, a giant potluck. 75-100 people, and a couple of us are white.

Glorfindel

(9,729 posts)
22. If Latino is considered "different race," then about three weeks ago
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:51 PM
May 2018

in the home of my niece and her husband (he's from Ecuador), and just before that, in the home of my cousin from Venezuela and her family. But EVERY Christmas time, in the home of my cousin who's more like a sister, her Chinese husband, their daughter who is my goddaughter, her husband, and their amazing little girl, who is six going on 20. Our family is a glorious hodgepodge of races, religions, cultures, and orientations. Forty of us are going to Antigua in July to celebrate the Golden Wedding of my cousin. It should be a blast!
For a grumpy old bachelor, I'm a very lucky man. Thank you, EffieBlack, for a very interesting question!

Lunabell

(6,080 posts)
26. The last time I had a taco tuesday.
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:56 PM
May 2018

My friend, Elisa. My "nephew", Jonah and my niece , Rhianna about 1 month ago. I dont have many friends but my bestie is Elisa.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
29. I am one of the few white people in my neighborhood. When
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:58 PM
May 2018

my neighbor across the street invited me over, I was the only white. I chose this house on purpose.

cilla4progress

(24,728 posts)
31. Ages.
Sun May 20, 2018, 05:58 PM
May 2018

Terrible.

I do go out and socialize with, however.

Also, looking forward.to nephew's wedding into an AA family this summer!

MaryMagdaline

(6,854 posts)
37. Last dinner parties 2016
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:06 PM
May 2018

I haven't had dinner parties since the election ... so going on two years. Nephew's wife and in-laws are Caribbean. I think I last visited them in 2016 when they rented a house in Fort Lauderdale. haven't socialized much since November 2016 except with my siblings.

Wawannabe

(5,657 posts)
38. About six weeks ago
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:32 PM
May 2018

Texas Hold em Poker at “our” house.
When I was rooming...
Just moved tho. Haven’t let anyone in the new place except my son when he came to visit. It is still a total mess.

My home away from home has a refreshing mix of race. (A dive bar)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
40. 8,9 months ago.
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:49 PM
May 2018

Beer club guys. And African American couple in their early 60s. Natives of Florida.

All the other guys are Yankees and when Fred started telling stories of rural central Florida in the 60s and of his parents experiences they were shocked.

Being southern it did not shock me. But Of course I really could not understand.

They are great people and have both been successful and about to retire

Thanks for this thread...I need to call them up and get back together. The wives really hit it off for a first meeting.

Aristus

(66,328 posts)
41. A couple of months ago. A colleague of my wife is Hispanic, and put on a big St. Patrick's Day bash.
Sun May 20, 2018, 06:52 PM
May 2018

I know. Hispanic, not Irish. But who cares? Great excuse for a party.

I don't think there was a person there who thought: "This is a Hispanic family? They do things just like us!"

Igel

(35,300 posts)
42. Years.
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:15 PM
May 2018

Then again, haven't much been in another family's house for years so that's a meaningless subject-line answer. Did visit with a fellow teacher who's part Lebanese, but she's as Euro-American white as any German would be.

Used to visit with my Latino neighbors before they moved. That was 5-6 years ago, but for all the "of color" rhetoric I considered them white. (One very fair skinned blue-eyed blonde student said she was a "student of color" while her slightly-darker skinned brown-haired brown-eyed teacher wasn't. Argentinian.) The AfAm neighbors, to the extent they have parties, host them in their driveways and garages.

I've been invited to a number of parties hosted by administrators and such. Come to think of it, I think they were all hosted by EurAms. The AfAm administrators where I work don't host parties for staff of non-color, but I have heard them talking about parties at which they invited each other.

44. Whenever Oscar night was this year
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:19 PM
May 2018

A friend of mine, a gay white man, spent Oscar night sitting on his couch discussing movies, movie history, celebrities, and women’s Oscar gowns.

 

EffieBlack

(14,249 posts)
52. Hey, boo! I was wondering if you were going to show up
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:07 PM
May 2018

But silly me. Of COURSE you showed up - since you're always interested in hearing about my life.

But I'm still waiting for you to answer the last question I asked - I gave you my answer but you never gave me yours. Are you shy?

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
47. I'm a pasty white guy in SoCal.
Sun May 20, 2018, 07:51 PM
May 2018

Finding an exclusively-white group to socialize with would probably be difficult. Most of the people we know are Hispanic, as is my wife.

Chemisse

(30,811 posts)
53. I never socialize except with family, which is all white.
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:24 PM
May 2018

And the coworkers that I see frequently at work are mostly white.

But each day I host a plethora of "races" in my high school classroom. I am fortunate to have diverse groups of students who are white, black, Middle Eastern, Hispanic, Asian, and Russian.

I don't have a choice about who walks into my classroom, but I did choose to work at a school that has a highly diverse population. I love that about it.

Wolf Frankula

(3,600 posts)
55. Today
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:52 PM
May 2018

With the Vietnamese family across the street. When was the last time you socialized in the home of someone of a different race than you or vice versa?

Wolf

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
57. Now that you ask the question, I'm not invited very often to their homes.
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:54 PM
May 2018

Most of my socializing is via work or quasi-work events.


 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
58. I don't remember when it was, but it was second most recent time I did so
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:57 PM
May 2018

But I also don't get out much. I'm pretty much a hermit. I go to work, I go workout, I retreat to my cave to ice and eat.

The time before that might have also been in the house of somebody of a different race, but that's going back many months, maybe even a year. I'm really boring like that.

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
60. Right now, as a matter of fact...
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

...watching the NBA at a friend's apartment; used a commercial break to check in with good old DU. Go Rockets!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
63. I am white---late dinner, and a hang early this evening, after playing an orchestra concert,
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:18 PM
May 2018

with a Chinese cellist and her husband and two girls.

-Couple of weeks ago dinner with several South Koreans .

And in April I spent 2 1/2 weeks with A Japanese woman visiting from Japan for the first time who was staying with her Japanese former teacher. We all had a ball together.. and my Japanese improved.


OhioBlue

(5,126 posts)
66. Between work, volunteering and kid's activities, I can only think of one time we socialized
Sun May 20, 2018, 11:14 PM
May 2018

in anyone's home other than family in the past year. I have stopped by a lot of houses, but it is usually to drop things off or pick things up. The last time I stopped by a friend's house of a different race would have been last November when I dropped off campaign signs.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
68. I don't know. A long time.
Mon May 21, 2018, 12:33 AM
May 2018

Maybe 4 years? Had a neighborhood group opposing development plans, and one meeting was held in our Pakistani neighbors house. And once or twice I've been in homes of my kid's classmates and socialized for a while. Once I think they were Vietnamese, and I know two couples where the wife was of Japanese decent.

Always wound up dating white women with white families (married one of them). Excerpt for my ex wife it was done via online dating services and I never specified a racial preference. Both sides of my family are white except for a great grandparent that was Cherokee.

I don't have much of a social life and work in a field that tends to be older white men. I live in a town that tends towards white middle-class and higher. And I tend to be a stay-at-home when I'm not working.

But I'm in the process of moving and my condo neighbors are Latino, so I should be able to change my answer soon.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
69. I hung out with my wife today
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:03 AM
May 2018

Who is Puerto Rican.

I ate dinner at my best friend's Chinese restaurant Friday night, and he and I chatted for an hour.

Last night we visited my white friend and his Japanese wife and all went for a walk and dinner together.

Not really any black people in my circle though, which is crappy.

catsudon

(839 posts)
70. is it cheating?
Mon May 21, 2018, 06:51 AM
May 2018

if it is so easy for me and my friends? since i'm asian, laat weekend i went to a friend's ouse for his daughter's college graduation party.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
71. A long time ago....
Mon May 21, 2018, 07:32 AM
May 2018

When I lived in the D.C. Area, I have a quite a few black friends and we socialized often.

But here in Indiana? Not bloody many black folks at all, and virtually none in my peer group. We did have an Indian friend we socialized with frequently, but he moved away about 5 years ago.

KitSileya

(4,035 posts)
72. I hardly ever invite anyone home,
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:23 AM
May 2018

But my parish is incredibly multicultural, with people from pretty much every continent save Antarctica (however, since Norway owns a part of Antarctica, perhaps it counts?) I socialize with people from African countries (especially Ethiopia and Nigeria), Asian countries (especially Sri Lanka, India, and Vietnam), European countries (especially Poland), and South America (especially Chile) every week at church coffee. (The weekly church coffee is also known as the eight sacrament in the Catholic Church in Norway.)

Among those I regularly invite to my home is a friend and her half-Sudanese son. Dunno if that counts.

Bettie

(16,097 posts)
73. I haven't socialized in the home of ANYONE
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:26 AM
May 2018

of any race in years.

Iowa is a weird place, at least the little town we live in.

No one invites anyone they aren't related to into their homes.

It has been 16 years since we were invited to anyone's house or anyone has accepted an invitation to our home.

I hate this state and this town.

Sancho

(9,069 posts)
74. In my part of FL...work, neighborhood, and church are all diverse...
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:52 AM
May 2018

lots of races and cultures represented. About a third of my co-workers were born out of the US and our leadership is African American. My church is a mix of white, black, asian, and hispanic.

The neighborhood is mostly white, but there are some African American families; and my neighbors next door are from Argentina on the left and Germany on the right. The German was literally a rocket scientist recruited (captured?) after WWII who later married an American women. He's quite elderly now (90s). The Argentine neighbor was on a student visa at MIT many years ago (60s?), and married an American woman. Becoming a US citizen was not so hard then. He is visibly non-white; and most people would think he was black/hispanic. We've been in both their homes in the last year several times.

I went to a holiday party with a group last December, and there was a mix of people - the homeowners were a traditional, retired white couple. That's the only home I visited in the last couple years. We don't go to other homes to socialize much anymore.

My wife and I visited some friends a few weeks ago on their boat (they live aboard), and they are from Poland. They were illegal immigrants 20+ years ago, but have obtained citizenship after a long and costly effort, so this summer they will legally go to Poland and visit their elderly parents. They have made a living in the US. Their son is in medical school now. They got their infant son out of Poland by hiding him in a secret compartment in a car. They entered the US by island hoping across the Atlantic.



 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
76. Player in my Dungeons & Dragons game is AfAm.
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:02 AM
May 2018

Player in my Dungeons & Dragons game is AfAm. We all get together and play about once a week.

I'd like to pretend I'm being clever by asking chicken-shit variations on a question like "what's a race?" to derail the conversation, but it's Monday morning and I just don't have enough follow-through for that kind if insincerity.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
77. My house. If African American, Mexican, Asian, Indian, First nations, and Puerto Ricans count.
Mon May 21, 2018, 09:06 AM
May 2018

Mostly teens in recovery and their parents.

Response to EffieBlack (Original post)

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
83. Wait!!!
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

As a white person I’ve heard repeatedly how I’m not allowed to say I have friends of color, so I’m not answering. It’s a trick question!

Iggo

(47,552 posts)
84. When I was 19, back in '80 or '81....
Mon May 21, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

...is about the last time I remember having dinner at the home of a family who wasn't White or Latino.

(I'm mixed-race White/Latino, so for the purposes of this thread I'm not counting either one of those, since I feel at home in either setting.)

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