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Books_Tea_Alone

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Sun May 20, 2018, 08:38 PM May 2018

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american_ideals

(613 posts)
1. This is a big goal of GOP propaganda: despair! Don't let it work
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:43 PM
May 2018

We are going to win.

GOP despair propaganda is all over the internet. We need to spread hope.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
2. People have lives to live
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:44 PM
May 2018

Jobs (sometimes several), bills to pay, a home to maintain, meals to cook, laundry to wash & dry, kids to get to school, soccer, basketball, baseball, etc and lots of varied interests. An important interest for many who frequent this board it politics, that is not necessarily so for all or even many.

Frankly the political arena for the last 4 decades has become increasingly more depressing, folks should be paying attention and be interested as it is their future, but I can fully understand those that choose other interests above it.

rzemanfl

(29,557 posts)
3. Bookmarking for after I wash my socks. n/t
Sun May 20, 2018, 08:57 PM
May 2018

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
4. They don't need to watch all of the
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:06 PM
May 2018

Evening programs on msnbc, but if they would watch either Chris Hayes or Rachel Maddow or O'Donnell at lest 2-3 times a week, they would know more about what's happening. They'd be able to see that trump is getting buggy because of how close Mueller is.

Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
5. Thank you
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:14 PM
May 2018

I am very sure (not hopeful) that he will and his spawn will see prison as their final destination. I have three children , a demanding job as a special ed teacher and volunteer in my community yet manage to keep abreast of everything going on via this board and twitter daily. I just don't understand how they are not outraged by all of the injustices done to this fine country on a daily basis by this reality show loser.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
11. The general ignorance and *apathy* of...
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:21 AM
May 2018

...far too many astonishes and infuriates me. They are ignorant because of their apathy. All the while, the racists stay glued to propaganda on Faux. The combination is lethal to our democracy.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
6. It could also be they are just as excited as you are to see justice, but they too remember Fitzmas
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:19 PM
May 2018

Stoicism in the face of so many previous disappointments is no surprise.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
7. I'm not surprised as I used to be one of them. I don't think folks fully appreciate just how many
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:40 PM
May 2018

folks really do not pay attention. You have some people who have NO IDEA at all what is going on. So that's why I'm not concerned...when the full shit hits the fan it will bleed through and I believe people will give a shit.

I'm a little disgusted with the repeated "it's been a year bullshit" from various factions. The age of instant gratification is in full force.

Crutchez_CuiBono

(7,725 posts)
8. Regarding the vote, All I can say is...."Make it Rain!!
Sun May 20, 2018, 09:54 PM
May 2018

Yes, Go Vote!!
We can all hope The Mueller Investigation will be fruitful, But, it sure has gone on a long time.
Support doesn't have to be all or nothing thing. There's NO question at all, that there has to be solid justice on this. It will set precedent for the remaining years of this country. Possibly set new standards of behavior BEFORE this happens again w a President. (Like...a president can't reverse more than one thing the previous president did...in his first 4 years. If he wants to change more, get a mandate overwhelming vote the next time, and let it fly. )
The gains in this country are wayyyy too hard fought a battle to be just giving in, AT ALL after a deliberate mis-carriage of our system. because the tv says so. That's not your standard as a citizen. dt failed us miserably. Had he won and gotten humble, and helped folks like he said, seems like today would feel different maybe. No.
These people are traitorous and they're defrauding the American People and are enriching themselves on Americas good name. So GD saddening bc President Clinton would've continued President Obama's general way of doing things. We'd still be headed for clean air and water, and foremost the peace and prosperity of ALL the people who consume it. Us. The USA. Dance with the one who 'brung' you.
If you are tired and need a break, take a break. But, you better be ready w a plan when the answer comes, bc giving my country to Russia just isn't an option, and neither is anything less than what this cheated country started with when President Obama ended his term. It's a conspiracy of mammoth proportions and they are guilty. Is there really any doubt let alone a reasonable suspicion that even 25% (at best and that's just for sake of argument.) of the things alleged, have most certainly occurred?
If laws are to be upheld as citizens, then the Federal Government has an OBLIGATION to prosecute on behalf of every single one of us, those who commit crimes against US (U.S.A.), as citizens of this country. If he's not guilty, let a jury decide. It's time . Memorial Day is very soon. Mr. Muellers a decorated Marine. Hopefully, he'll be our 2018 Uncle Sam before then. Just bc the news says it's going to be another year, doesn't mean it will. We need to start getting louder about seeing some signs that justice is being done. We need to know bc if dt and family are traitors bc we need to start the revolution man. If the worst bd news is that Mr Mueller really isn't going to pull the ...switch, then we shall as Patriots start to turn this thing around in a more kinetic fashion. (Marches etc.) This beautiful country is way too precious to just hand over to ANYONE, let alone this bunch. I hope soldiers and sailors and Marines and Airmen, and every civil servant in between, takes a real close look at the oaths they took. Bc that's what you swore before G or whomever. That's what you SWORE you'd do. Go read it. Pretty sure it said protect and defend each other and this country. If anyone has a certificate of service that gives them precedent to support dt and Russian invaders, please let me know.
It's coming up. The answer, one way or another. It might not be good. If it isn't good next friday (or whenever), we may all look back on even THIS day and wish we could live what we have right now. While we anticipate the future of over 320 million inbued with inalianable rights. If you can't lead then get out of the way, and let someone else do it. Always remember, people who have nothing to lose are the most dangerous. And Brother , we're a losin' fast.
My personal wish would be for restoration of things status quo, after Pres Obama and a new President. In my opinion a new vote. In the meantime HRC can handle the POTUS position I'm sure. I wonder if HRC would pull an Al Gore and just concede? Have we learned what happens when we fold? Our backs are close to being against the wall it seems. HRC...are you listening. You may be called on as the President quicker than you think. In person or figuratively imo. We need to have our position and boundries for a return to civility as well. Instead of...lets just wait and see what happens then react. We have been suffering damages on so many levels.
But,
Tomorrow will come, and we need to keep on living and being happy. NOT letting the conman into your head. DO NOT talk politics if you can help it. Be true to your school/us(U.S.A.) The climated changing, these may be our Golden Years and we don't even know it. Just say'in.
Store your political energy bc we will be in the streets. Either kissing and hugging like Times Square after WW2, or marching in lock step as TRUE patriot citizen soldiers, regaining by force of numbers and REASON, the keys to the country. We have an obligation too. That's outlined in the Constitution as well...Loyal Opposition. Peaceably but firmly.
**When we all walk outside and start walking down the street, that's how it begins. (Bring a water.)
This shit isn't over. It's just monday.
p.s. I'm surprised that at a party you'd even bring up politics....you do afterall....want to be invited back or to next weekends festivities, I'd wager Friends don't let friends, talk politics. (outside DU).

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
9. Maybe they understand voting is more important than waiting on the Mueller train
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:07 PM
May 2018

As long as they vote that is the key . Anything from Mueller's work will just be an added surprise to them

Oneironaut

(5,494 posts)
10. Count me among that group.
Sun May 20, 2018, 10:13 PM
May 2018

Not only do I think Trump will finish his term, but I will go a step further - the overwhelmingly stupid voters in this country will vote Trump in again in 2020. No cheating will be needed.

Most Americans think that coal and manufacturing of the 1950's will come back, minorities are stealing their jobs, and Trump is best businessman in history. Most of all, they love how entertaining he is to them. They may even claim that they hate him, but will inexplicably go and vote for him again because the Liberals "Love high taxes, welfare, and want to take their guns away."

I'm not about the give up, and I hope I'm wrong. I just have no faith in the American public anymore to make the right decision.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
12. Wow, sounds like a real good time was had by all!
Mon May 21, 2018, 08:25 AM
May 2018

People go to a party and just whine about politics?

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