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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:29 AM May 2018

Pack Of Wiener-Type Dogs Maul Oklahoma Woman To Death

Last edited Wed May 23, 2018, 04:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Dachshunds kill.

https://patch.com/oklahoma/across-ok/pack-wiener-type-dogs-maul-oklahoma-woman-death?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=blasts&utm_content=national

ARDMORE, OK — A pack of vicious dogs, some of them described as predominantly dachshunds, or wiener dogs, mauled an Oklahoma woman to death last week. It's unclear what caused the dogs to attack Tracy Garcia, 52, outside her home near Ardmore on Thursday, but their owner could face charges, according to media reports.

One of the dogs was shot after charging at a Carter County deputy who responded to the attack, and the other six were euthanized at the owner's request at a local veterinary clinic, the reports said.

Original reports that the dogs that attacked Garcia were pit bulls proved not to be true, Bryant said.

"A predominant breed in these dogs is definitely standard dachshund," Amanda Dinwiddie, the euthanasia technician at Ardmore Animal Shelter, told television station KXII. "They have really noticeable characteristics like their knobby legs, knees, very short legged dogs and their coats."


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Pack Of Wiener-Type Dogs Maul Oklahoma Woman To Death (Original Post) ProudLib72 May 2018 OP
I can believe this. We had a dachshund while I was growing up... Laffy Kat May 2018 #1
I read an article a couple years ago about the "bitiest" dogs ProudLib72 May 2018 #2
I feel like the article was missing something. It's an odd story. Laffy Kat May 2018 #3
We live in a very dog-friendly neighborhood. spiderpig May 2018 #4
Just found this article about dachshunds being aggressive ProudLib72 May 2018 #5
Thank you for the thoughtful response. spiderpig May 2018 #6
Absolutely plus breeders who don't know what Raine May 2018 #8
We had two older dachshunds that we took in when their owner died Raine May 2018 #7
My grandfather had Irish Setters when I was a kid back in the 50s. spiderpig May 2018 #9
There used to be a woman with a dachsund mnhtnbb May 2018 #10
That's terrible! That poor woman, Tracy Garcia.. Cha May 2018 #11
neighbor got hismom's old one when we moved nexxt door. then he got pepper. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #12
Considering dachshund's were first bred to hunt badgers in their dens, it's not surprising. My first airmid May 2018 #13
I have had Dachshunds for years RockaFowler May 2018 #14
The article is a little lacking in information on the owner ProudLib72 May 2018 #17
Three of my neighbors have owned pit bulls at various times... MrScorpio May 2018 #15
40 lb Weiner dogs. Nice. Might there be some Terrier in there? NCTraveler May 2018 #19
FAKE! superpatriotman May 2018 #16
NOT FAKE! ProudLib72 May 2018 #20
Some of the biggest Dachshunds ever! NCTraveler May 2018 #18
When a kid my best friend had a dachshund. It was never aggressive toward humans but would Floyd R. Turbo May 2018 #21

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
1. I can believe this. We had a dachshund while I was growing up...
Wed May 23, 2018, 01:41 AM
May 2018

And we all loved her to pieces, but we didn't know about socialization back then and that dog got so mean. She would bite anyone, HARD, draw blood, even on us. She had major attitude. She was our first indoor dog and we spoiled her to no end. She lived to about ten or so and we were absolutely devastated when we had to put her down due to mammary cancer. My mom wanted to breed her and it just never worked. Eventually we had her spayed but it was too late, thus, the cancer. So I can understand, when a dog like that assimilates into a pack and develops a pack mentality. It's tragic.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
2. I read an article a couple years ago about the "bitiest" dogs
Wed May 23, 2018, 03:49 AM
May 2018

Dachshunds were ranked the number one most bitey dog.

I haven't known many dachshunds, but those that I have met do seem like they have an attitude. I think a lot of people let their small dogs get away with too much simply because they are small. A small dog isn't as likely to do significant damage. But then there is this story! Although you are right about the pack thing, too. What's strange is that there were seven of them, they seemed to have been living in the woods, but the article mentions they talked to their owner before putting them down.

Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
3. I feel like the article was missing something. It's an odd story.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:03 AM
May 2018

I think wiener dogs are very protective and that's part of the problem. Even though we had a mean one, most of the ones I have come across are sweet dogs. Willing to bet that these killer dachshunds were abused and probably a tragedy waiting to happen. But, getting back to what you wrote, I've read that, too, that they are basically dobermans with short legs. BTW, most dobermans are good dogs, too, and so loyal and beautiful. Let's face it, behind every bad dog, there's a clueless (like my family) or abusive owner.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
4. We live in a very dog-friendly neighborhood.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:03 AM
May 2018

Matter of fact, we know each other by doggie names rather than human names.

Anyway, there are two dachshunds a couple of houses away who are the meanest little critters on four (short) legs. The clueless owners let them run around off-leash and they'll attack humans and dogs walking the block minding their own business.

I adore animals, but these dogs are vicious little beasts.

Or were. I haven't seen them for a month or so.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
5. Just found this article about dachshunds being aggressive
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:21 AM
May 2018
Sausage dogs are the most aggressive dogs: Forget pit bulls, rottweilers and Rhodesian ridgebacks, it's the sausage dog that's the most aggressive breed.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/2254479/Sausage-dogs-are-the-most-aggressive-dogs.html

They may be small, but new research found that one in five dachshunds have bitten or tried to bite strangers, and a similar number have attacked other dogs; one in 12 have snapped at their owners.

Dr James Serpell, one of the researchers, said smaller breeds might be more genetically predisposed towards aggressive behaviour than larger dogs.

Breeds scoring low for aggression included Basset hounds, golden retrievers, labradors, Siberian huskies and greyhounds. The rottweiler, pit bull and Rhodesian ridgeback scored average or below average marks for hostility towards strangers.


I think it is down to the clueless owners you mention. In many people's minds "small dog" = "harmless dog". I remember a story someone at the dog park I used to frequent told me about having her ankle torn open by a Chihuahua. The owner picked up the dog and bolted for the car. There are a lot of people who are not willing to take responsibility, and that extends to proper training as well.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
6. Thank you for the thoughtful response.
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:40 AM
May 2018

With ownership/companionship comes responsibility. Our doggie is as sweet as they come, but extremely protective toward Mr. pig and me. Among other things, we call her "Doggie Doorbell" because she alerts us for every Amazon delivery.

However, we live near a school and avoid walking her during opening/dismissal times. I'm sure she wouldn't bite, but she barks at little kids as they walk by the house, so we just keep her inside.

Bad, irresponsible pet owners make me stabby.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
8. Absolutely plus breeders who don't know what
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:53 AM
May 2018

the hell they're doing. No breed of dog is bad, owners and breeders are the problem.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
7. We had two older dachshunds that we took in when their owner died
Wed May 23, 2018, 04:51 AM
May 2018

they were brothers. The one didn't like my father and would growl at him when he came near but were never aggressive or tried to bite anyone. Those dogs were sweet and lovable after bring thru so much losing their original home. Even the one who didn't like my father eventually stopped growling, they never became buddies but at least tolerated each other. This has been awhile ago though late 80's, greedy breeders probably corrupted the breed.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
9. My grandfather had Irish Setters when I was a kid back in the 50s.
Wed May 23, 2018, 05:14 AM
May 2018

I can't remember the last time I actually saw one. They were having inbreeding problems back then - hip dysplasia, etc. I adored them.

Have they been bred out of existence?

mnhtnbb

(31,374 posts)
10. There used to be a woman with a dachsund
Wed May 23, 2018, 05:15 AM
May 2018

in the neighborhood where I lived in Chapel Hill. That dog never failed to bark when I walked by with Snowy or bark and pull at it's leash if we encountered it when we were out walking. It was a nasty little dog and the owner was clueless about how to control it.

pansypoo53219

(20,955 posts)
12. neighbor got hismom's old one when we moved nexxt door. then he got pepper.
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:24 AM
May 2018

to replace her other old dog.a dauchsund/golden retriever. he was a sweetie. then a dauchsund/setter?also a good boy. friend had a mini one. he was not so nice.

airmid

(500 posts)
13. Considering dachshund's were first bred to hunt badgers in their dens, it's not surprising. My first
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:41 AM
May 2018

dog at 5 yrs old was from a dachshund that got into our backyard. This dog was a repeat biter...

RockaFowler

(7,429 posts)
14. I have had Dachshunds for years
Wed May 23, 2018, 06:42 AM
May 2018

At one point I had 4 of them. We now have 2. They are the sweetest dogs ever. But they love to bark. Why?? Because they are so little and they are scared. Hoagie (our standard) loves to bark at people as they walk by the house. That's it though. Once people get close, he turns the other way and goes under a bed somewhere. Jasmine (our mini) has always been ornery, but she's just very protective of us. She doesn't like anyone but us. But again once you get to know her you really love her.

I cannot believe they would ever attack someone, but this was a pack of dogs. I have a feeling they were stray dogs and were protecting their "home". It's just so weird to see someone die from them. I feel horrible.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
17. The article is a little lacking in information on the owner
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

It said that the owner consented to having the dogs put down. It also says that the dogs were covered in ticks and had been living in the woods for a while. So was there a single owner of all the dogs? Did they form a pack before or after they started living in the woods? I'll admit it's weird and there seem to be pieces missing. Makes me angry to think an irresponsible owner horded seven dogs.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
15. Three of my neighbors have owned pit bulls at various times...
Wed May 23, 2018, 07:01 AM
May 2018

And all three of those dogs have been nothing but sweeties. Hell, the only thing that you'd have to worry about is the fact that they'd all lick you to death.

This Weiner dog problem looks serious. Give me a pittie sweetie any day.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
19. 40 lb Weiner dogs. Nice. Might there be some Terrier in there?
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:22 PM
May 2018

My point is about as empty of meaning as yours.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
16. FAKE!
Wed May 23, 2018, 08:29 AM
May 2018

Please change the thread title or delete.

The dogs were NOT Dacschunds. They were Terrier mixes and one Collie mix.

This was sorted out over a week ago.

Floyd R. Turbo

(26,545 posts)
21. When a kid my best friend had a dachshund. It was never aggressive toward humans but would
Wed May 23, 2018, 02:28 PM
May 2018

attack other dogs. Unfortunately a neighbor’s boxer burrowed under my friend’s fence and was killed by the dachshund!

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