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Wed May 23, 2018, 08:59 PM

In trumps America money is free speech but not protest. How is this what the NFL is doing

Constitutional? Where is the ACLU? What are your thoughts?

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Reply In trumps America money is free speech but not protest. How is this what the NFL is doing (Original post)
onecaliberal May 2018 OP
applegrove May 2018 #1
onecaliberal May 2018 #2
MichMan May 2018 #4
applegrove May 2018 #5
PoliticAverse May 2018 #7
applegrove May 2018 #8
MichMan May 2018 #10
applegrove May 2018 #14
MichMan May 2018 #16
onecaliberal May 2018 #6
MichMan May 2018 #11
brooklynite May 2018 #18
MichMan May 2018 #3
kelly1mm May 2018 #9
Decoy of Fenris May 2018 #12
MichMan May 2018 #13
mythology May 2018 #15
brooklynite May 2018 #17

Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 09:09 PM

1. Colin Kaepernick is considered a starting quarterback by internal NFL

memo. Owners convinced players last year that Trump had the fans hating on the NFL. As if they are all in it together. It is never logical or fair how things like "free speech" are distributed across the US. That is a form of inequality in itself.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed May 23, 2018, 09:30 PM

2. I'm done with the NFL. People are just rolling over for these assholes.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:05 PM

4. Why do you think freedom of speech applies to private employers?

Pretty sure I can't say anything I want to my boss and think I should get to keep my job.

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Response to MichMan (Reply #4)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:59 PM

5. Because during an anthem people should be able to salute it, or not solute

it as they see fit. Free speech.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Wed May 23, 2018, 11:33 PM

7. They are being given the option not to come out and stand during the anthem. n/t

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Response to PoliticAverse (Reply #7)

Wed May 23, 2018, 11:37 PM

8. Free speech for some with Citizens United. Not for others with this NFL rule.

And the NFL owners get to benefit from both.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #5)

Thu May 24, 2018, 07:18 AM

10. I see you diidn't answer the question I asked

If indeed you have free speech at work, can you say anything you want to your boss and still keep your job?

Can I stand outside his house and hurl expletives at him after work and not be fired?





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Response to MichMan (Reply #10)

Thu May 24, 2018, 10:34 AM

14. Black Lives Matter is not hurling explosives. Unless of course you are republican

and protect your wedge issues like a mother bear.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #14)

Thu May 24, 2018, 11:25 AM

16. Please explain how standing for the anthem is covered by the first amend

Specifically and those other things aren't. I am disappointed with the general ignorance people have of freedom of speech and where and when it applies.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the sincerity or motivation of the anthem protest

I call out someone who doesn't understand what the 1st really means regardless

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Response to MichMan (Reply #4)

Wed May 23, 2018, 11:20 PM

6. Are yuh forced to stand for the anthem at work? Pretty sure your not. False comparison.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #6)

Thu May 24, 2018, 07:22 AM

11. So free speech doesn't apply to private employers ......

.. unless it is the anthem? Is it in a different category than other forms of speech?


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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #6)

Thu May 24, 2018, 11:27 AM

18. Yes, you are...

...if your employer makes it a job requirement.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Wed May 23, 2018, 10:03 PM

3. How in any way do you think this is unconstitutional ?

What do you expect the ACLU to do?


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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 01:20 AM

9. The Constitutional protections in the 1st amendment restrict the GOVERNMENT from

punishing you for your speech. Your employer (unless it is the government) is not constrained by the 1st amendment.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 07:25 AM

12. The players can practice free speech. That doesn't shield them from consequences from the employer.

Don't get me wrong, I support and encourage taking a knee during the anthem for political concerns. That said, as with any employer, acting against company/business policy is punishable by fines and/or termination. That's a standard employer/employee thing no matter where you go. The Constitution doesn't apply to private businesses.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 08:23 AM

13. I am disheartened on why so many do not understand the First Amend.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 10:56 AM

15. Please actually read the constitution

 

It might help to know what's in it. Just because you really really really hate something, doesn't actually make it unconstitutional.

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Response to onecaliberal (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 11:26 AM

17. Is the NFL a Government Agency?

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