Do you think your average Deplorable can explain

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Separation of powers
Checks and balances
Due process
The roles of the legislative, executive, and judicial branches
The Bill Of Rights
Pluralism
Majority rule/individual rights
Habeas corpus
Liberal democracy
Democratic republic
Judicial review

[Stuart G]

1. The average "Deplorable" doesn't care about any of those 5 ideas.

especially the last one...."The Bill of Rights."

[Takket]

2. 1/10th of it anyway

[Stuart G]

4. You are correct...I forgot the part about owning a gun under all circumstances..

That is what they think about the 2nd Amendment...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I added four more

[el_bryanto]

3. Deplorable is kind of a synonym for politically illiterate

I mean I would guess that the deplorable politicians could explain those things (the explanations might be wrong, but would be there) - and i'm guessing politically illiterate liberals couldn't.

Perhaps the big difference is that left leaning politically illiterate people assume that maybe since they don't know the issues they shouldn't vote - while conservative illiterates (deplorables) are happy to vote based on what their political leaders tell them.

Bryant

[lunasun]

6. They vote and will in November

[irisblue]

7. No, but they vote

[Mc Mike]

8. No, they can't, because they're unamerican treasonweasels.

[RKP5637]

9. They don't care, the words are too big for them! n/t

[SCVDem]

10. I would add,

The Budget
Trade Deals
Intelligence and
The Importance of Allies!

Extra points if they can explain the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich.

[yurbud]

11. We need to get back to teaching this stuff in school instead of letting vendors & foundations of the

rich dictate curriculum.

I teach college and a lot of my students view politics like music or pro sports, something you can safely ignore if it's not your thing.

They don't realize it's a matter of life and death.

[Grins]

27. Heard somewhere long ago..

A teacher goiung off on homw important policits was. Said something to the effect politics determines how and where you will be born, the type of electrical outlets in your home, "even "how deep your grave has to be!"

Never for that last one!

[Shipwack]

32. +1000 nt

[jayschool2013]

12. Nope

The extent of their civic education:
Gunz r gud.
Bortions badd.

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. Feeding children and child health care bad.

[LakeArenal]

33. Also Hillree an' 'Bamma bad.

[barbtries]

13. out of that whole list

they'd jump on the word liberal and lose it.

[Heartstrings]

15. Yes! They have "liberal" stuck in their heads

as the root of all evil....they wouldn't be able to get past that word!

[First Speaker]

38. they've reached the point where they hate liberal democracy...

...and not just "liberalism". And that's where we are. We've crossed a Rubicon. If liberal democracy is going to be saved, it's going to require both political action from the mass of the people, *and* a leader who understands the stakes, is pragmatic in his tactics but unyieldingly radical in his strategic goals--another Lincoln or FDR. If we can't get both of these, this country is finished.

[barbtries]

40. yes.

it is dark days for the country.

[BadgerMom]

14. Do you think the President can explain them?

I bet he couldn’t cogently discuss even one of those topics.

[TNNurse]

17. Cannot imagine who would bet against you on that.

[tazkcmo]

51. Isn't it obvious?

A deplorable would.

[Ferrets are Cool]

16. Explain them? They can't even read them. nt

[HenryWallace]

18. Yes

Replace "Deplorable" with "libtard" and this could be a post from infowars.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. The difference is they would be wrong.

If you believe this woman :






can explain the features of American government I cited there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

[HenryWallace]

42. The real question is

..... how is infantile belittling of your opposition helpful!

[link:|]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

43. If you believe...

If you believe wearing a pussy hat is tantamount to applauding sexual assault:

which is what the woman in the photo is suggesting:






there is nothing I can do to disabuse you of that notion.

Perhaps you are lost.



P.S. Do you believe suggesting sexual assault is acceptable is "infantile" or something arguably a lot worse ?

Thank you in advance.

[HenryWallace]

44. You are missing the point!

Basing your "feel-good" posts on asinine caricatures of the worst in American culture, does nothing in order to advance the Party's message of championing the interest of all Americans (you might say that by focusing on them, you actually hurt the cause).

Though it makes you feel better, it reinforces the perception of a petty, vindictive, elitist, tribal-Party.

It is this kind of vision and leadership that once again has gotten us here:

[link:http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/388832-reuters-poll-shows-republicans-leading-generic-ballot-for-first-time|]

No more!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

45. I hate to disappoint you.

I hate to disappoint you, , but that poll is already defunct:


https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-05/2018-reuters-tracking-core-political-05-23-2018.pdf


PAGE 15


BTW, keep up your insults, i.e. "Basing your "feel-good" posts on asinine caricatures..." I wear them like a crown.



Defunct polls, flawed and tortured analogies, ad hominem attacks. I can't wait for an encore.

[HenryWallace]

48. You guys really don't like polls!

Here is another one to consider:

[link:|]

[DemocratSinceBirth]

50. You posted a defunct reuters poll. I merely posted a current one.

[LanternWaste]

46. What specifically leads you to imply

"Basing your "feel-good" posts on asinine caricatures of the worst in American culture..."

What specifically leads you to imply the photos of Trump's supporters are the "worst" of Trump's supporters rather than an accurate indication of many, if not most of them?

Or (and I find this a wee bit more likely) the false equivalency you presented us with has no objective evidence to support it, and your allegation is merely designed to "make you feel better..."






"It is this kind of vision and leadership that once again has gotten us here..."

In addition to the False Equivalency fallacy, you also allow us the Post Hoc Ergo Prompter Hoc fallacy as well!

Well done!

[HenryWallace]

49. Its a supposition...

"Basing your "feel-good" posts on asinine caricatures of the worst in American culture..."

What specifically leads you to imply the photos of Trump's supporters are the "worst" of Trump's supporters rather than an accurate indication of many, if not most of them?

... So, your supposition is that picture is representative of at best 31,500,000 adult Americans (most Trump voters) and at worst 118,000,000 eligible voters? Not likely; try getting off this site once in awhile!

Or (and I find this a wee bit more likely) the false equivalency you presented us with has no objective evidence to support it, and your allegation is merely designed to "make you feel better..."

....This is not as hard as you are making it; you win elections by proposing, working for and passing good legislation, legislation that provides material benefits for all this country's citizens; you lose election by failing to do so (and you can lose with flair if you manage to alienate any portion of the core electorate over the course of two of the most winnable elections in a century).

"It is this kind of vision and leadership that once again has gotten us here..."

In addition to the False Equivalency fallacy, you also allow us the Post Hoc Ergo Prompter Hoc fallacy as well!

...Is this parody or possible satire (false..fallacy)? And yes, we are talking about causality; labeling it a "fallacy" doesn't really speak to the merits of the issue.

Well done!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

59. Let's use the Socratic method and elicit the truth by asking questions.

Trump's approval ratings hover in the high thirties to mid forties. The people who say they approve of the job he is doing are aware of his mendacity, cupidity, contempt for the rule of law, Islamophobia, nativism, transphobia, racism, et cetera.


I choose to describe those who hold those beliefs or approve of those who hold those beliefs as deplorable, sir. How would you describe them ?

[HenryWallace]

60. Citizens

... misinformed Citizens, but .... Citizens.

... your the problem.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

61. When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. - Maya Angelou

If you meet a person who holds anti-semtic, Islamophobic, nativist, racist, transphobic views , et cetera his or her only flaw is that he or she is "misinformed" and that there is no evidence of moral rot in him or her ?


And does that mean the Germans who supported Hitler's destruction of European Jewry were merely "misinformed Citizens" as you contend ?

Do you agree or disagree with the proposition that citizenship doesn't confer morality on the thoughts and actions of a citizen ?

Thank you in advance.


BTW, we are making a kind of progress. You're no longer posting defunct generic ballot polls.

[hurple]

19. They can't even explain

That all "men" are created equal

How are they supposed to understand any of those hard things?

[Victor_c3]

22. I hate to say it, but until I took a political science class, I didn't know all of these

Especially the terms:

Liberal democracy
Judicial review
Pluralism

I’m a retired adult and I’ve been taking classes at my local community college for my own enjoyment and edification. I have a degree in chemistry and I used to work as one, so I’m not looking for another degree. So with my time I’ve been taking bunches of history courses, music courses, and political science courses.

The professor in my political science course is only one year older than me and I really connected with him and the topic. The whole idea of judicial review comes from a misquoting of the constitution by Marshall. There is a lot of debate whether or not this was intentional, it’s an interesting read.

https://www.jstor.org/stable/3649310?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

[BobTheSubgenius]

23. Habeus Corpus.

It's not the dead body of someone named Habeu.

[Glamrock]

52. Hahahaha

[bucolic_frolic]

24. I don't think they get beyond

two more donuts with my cheeseburger please

[Soxfan58]

25. Seperation of church and state!

[CanonRay]

26. USA! USA! USA!

See, that was easy!

[NoMoreRepugs]

28. I honestly believe most deplorables don't understand

the word "liberal." To them thats someone who doesnt watch fox news..... rather than the defenders of their individual rights and social safety net.

[concreteblue]

29. A lot of them can.....

But only in their Sean Hannity/Flush Rimjob/Mark Levin/Savage Wiener voice!

[PJMcK]

30. The lack of civics education in our schools has contributed to this problem

How can we expect people to know these important things about their country when they weren't taught them in school? I'm older so when I was in junior high school (as it was called back then), we had two years of Social Studies classes where we learned about different ideologies and the U.S. Constitution. In contrast, my nephew who graduated from high school a year ago, never had any civics classes and his education about the U.S. system was limited to a single unit of the U.S. History class.

Republicans have destroyed the public education systems in our country. The result is the tremendous number of Americans who are simply ignorant.

[NCTraveler]

31. I doubt your average voter can. nt

[Vinca]

34. Did you read the post yesterday that had a deplorable tweet threatening

to impeach Obama if we impeach Trump? I doubt any of them could name the SCOTUS judges for a million dollar prize.

[Snake Plissken]

35. The average Deplorable doesn't even know what a deplorable is

[LakeArenal]

36. Do they know ......

the Constitutional definition of a “well regulated militia”?

Regulations are well loved by Republicans. (Not)

[PaulX2]

37. Emoluments

[Initech]

39. Not only do they not know, they don't care and they are proud of it.

Why think for yourself about the issues when you can have Fox News do it for you?

[Kablooie]

41. They don't have to.

They've got daddy Trump to take care of all of that for them.

[lame54]

47. Yes...

The damage Trump is doing these ideas and institutions is pissing off liberals
Enough said

[Glamrock]

53. It's not their fault....

Their brains are too full of crazy ass conspiracy theories to accept any more info.

[madaboutharry]

54. Remember when the republicans were all twisted about Cap and Trade?

It was an issue in 2008. Sarah Palin brought it up at her nut job rallies all the time. Her cult followers would get all worked up and shout about the horrors of Cap and Trade.

CNN sent a reporter out to cover them and people would always list Cap and Trade as one of the reasons not to vote for Barack Obama. Then they would be asked to explain how it worked. They had NO CLUE WHAT THE FUCK CAP AND TRADE WAS.

[Blue_Tires]

55. We're not allowed to call them ignorant racist yokels

might hurt them in the feels

[Eliot Rosewater]

56. Not to save their lives.

[Kirk Lover]

57. I have to separate the internet deplorables from real life ones. There is no hope for internet

deplorables. NO HOPE.

[Blue_true]

58. There is a reason that they are deplorables. Thinking isn't one of their best skills. nt