Why is Trumps Lawyer Emmet Flood at these meetings with DOJ?

[sunonmars]

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Disgraceful.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Since when does an attorney for someone under investigation

get to attend a meeting of the investigators? It's outrageous.

[sunonmars]

2. This is beyond disgraceful and i hope Schiff and others raise hell over this

[Hortensis]

30. Yes. Of course, Flood is the White House's attorney,

not Trump's. As for the question, though, why would ANYONE get to attend a meeting? None should be. No doubt they made up a reason.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

40. That's true, but the effect is probably the same,

since presumably Flood will fill in Trump's personal lawyers as to whatever he learned. One interesting point, though: Since WH counsel is not the president's lawyer, their communications are not protected by the attorney-client privilege.

[Hortensis]

47. Good point. Wonder what being in the middle of

this sleazy business does to Flood's reputation. Will he be regarded as on the side of rule of law, like the Democrats and intelligence chiefs? Over the years, a lot of attorneys and others have ruined their reputations and careers working with crooked Republicans.

I heard that Adam Schiff was in both meetings (Nancy Pelosi asked him to sub for her) so he could witness that the same material was presented in both. This was after the Democrats cut up big time over that.

[FBaggins]

3. He isn't actually Trump's lawyer

He's the White House attorney. His participation would be appropriate (at least to the extent that such a meeting itself is appropriate).

[arthritisR_US]

4. He replaced Ty Cobb so he is 45's personal lawyer so your

defence of him doesn’t hold.

[FBaggins]

9. Sorry - Ty Cobb was also not his personal lawyer.

But go ahead and keep pretending that I'm "defending him"

[SHRED]

7. McGahn is the Whitehouse lawyer

[FBaggins]

12. The WH counsel's office has quite a few attorneys

27 as of March - None of whom are Trumps personal attorney.

Hasn't anyone ever seen The West Wing?

[SHRED]

16. I thought you were claiming Emmett Flood was Whitehouse counsel

[FBaggins]

17. A reasonable assumption since I said "The"

But he's one of a couple dozen attorneys in the WH counsel's office - but I think he's the one in charge of the investigation and related concerns.

[SHRED]

20. White House Counsel

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_Counsel

[FBaggins]

23. Yep

The others are "assistant" or "deputy" or "special" (or combinations) WH Counsel

https://abovethelaw.com/2017/03/making-the-white-house-counsels-office-great-again/?rf=1

[Kirk Lover]

13. No he is RUMP's personal atty. This is beyond fucking outrageous. nt

[FBaggins]

15. Nope

He's part of the White House Counsel's office.

He didn't replace Cohen (one of Trump's personal attorneys)... he replaced Ty Cobb.

[kentuck]

18. ???

where do get that info?

[SHRED]

22. FBaggins appears confused

[FBaggins]

25. Which part?

All of that was publically reported. Ty Cobb is stepping down at the end of the month and this guy replaced him.

[H2O Man]

29. What you said is true,

and what the others said is also true. He plays both roles, despite the glaring conflict of interests.

[FBaggins]

36. He really can't.

The confusion is natural because Trump is both himself personally and President. Obviously a White House Counsel who successfully defends the President in some question is benefiting him in his personal role too if there is potential personal liability... but the jobs are really very different (not the least of which is that one of them is paid by the Executive branch and the other is paid by Trump personally).

White House Counsel can't have anything to do, for instance, with the porn star allegations... and (whoever replaced Cohen) can't sit in on meetings like this one.

[H2O Man]

41. Earlier today,

CNN reported that he has participated in Trump's personal lawyers' meetings regarding the criminal investigation.

I do agree 100% that he is not supposed to do so. It's a gross violation per conflicts of interest.

[FBaggins]

44. True... because Trump is both an individual and the chief executive

Obviously they would coordinate strategy in some areas... But there are also areas where he would have to excuse himself from the conversation.

[Kirk Lover]

28. Ya know what it doesn't even matter because no attorney should of been there period.

[FBaggins]

33. I agree IF the meeting shouldn't take place at all

If we accept that the meeting will take place... I would expect White House Counsel, Majority Counsel (both House and Senate) and Minority Counsel (same) to be represented.

[SHRED]

21. You are correct

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/02/ty-cobb-resigns-565621

[FBaggins]

38. Entertaining. Did you read past the first sentence?

Flood will replace Ty Cobb, the top Trump White House attorney who had been handling the Russia investigation.

“Emmet Flood will be joining the White House Staff to represent the President and the administration against the Russia witch hunt,"

Note "president" and "administration"... and the lack of anything implying Donald Trump in his personal capacity?

Or that when they mention "personal attorney" is when they shift to talking about Rudy?

[SHRED]

42. McGahn represents our Whitehouse

Flood represents Trump's legal affairs.

Am I wrong?

[FBaggins]

43. Yes... you're wrong

McGahn is the head of a couple dozen attorneys representing the WH. Rudy is the head of who knows how many attorneys represent Trump’s personal legal affairs.

The first group is paid by the executive branch and the second by him personally.

Flood is in the first group:

[SHRED]

45. Is it appropriate for Flood to go to this meeting?

[FBaggins]

46. See my #33

If he shouldn’t be there, it would be because the meeting shouldn’t happen (a question I haven’t formed an opinion on).

If the meeting itself is legit... then there are at least five attorneys who should be there. He would be one of them.

[stonecutter357]

35. wrong !

[SHRED]

5. Who allowed him there??

[sunonmars]

6. Its beyond inappropriate.....Trump may as well have attended himself.

[SHRED]

8. This whole thing is a charade

[kentuck]

10. Did he come with the court jester and the clown ?

Were there any Russians there ?

[Kirk Lover]

11. I called my Senators...I am outraged...WTF is he doing there. He has ZERO business being there! Is

this legal. I'm really pissed.

[world wide wally]

14. I hope the DOJ team just fed them pure bullshit

[Zoonart]

19. Fuckery...thy name is Trump!

[triron]

24. I called Senator Heinrich's (NM) office.

They didn't even know who Emmett Flood is!

[sunonmars]

27. we ain't surprised at that.

[janx]

31. Martin knows who the guy is.

The person answering the phone may not have. It's good that you called.

[triron]

32. Yes I figured that. But why isn't his staff informed?

[H2O Man]

26. Recommended.

There are only two possibilities: the first, and most glaring, is that this is a gross conflict of interests, seeking non-legal advantage for Trump's legal team; the second is that he was there, at least briefly, in order to document there was no "spying" or politically motivated motives involved, in order to have leverage in speaking to Trump about the need to drop this line of nonsense.

The first holds true, regardless of the second. But, from a defense team's position, this current behavior by Trump -- devised by Hannity and Otis the Drunk -- lends evidence of obvious obstruction.

[janx]

34. Here is Sanders' explanation:

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[itcfish]

37. I Am Confused

Why is Flood allowed in this meeting?

On May 2, 2018, it was reported that Flood would be replacing Ty Cobb as the White House attorney dealing with the investigation of President Donald Trump by Special Counsel Robert Mueller

[kentuck]

39. My guess is that Trump ordered him to go ?

He would have known better . There is no rule or law that the trump will not break .