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spanone

(135,816 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:45 AM May 2018

the silence from republicans this morning after the 'reveal' is stunning.

as trump was getting on the helicopter this morning, no reporter thought to ask about the 'spy' in his campaign.

not one reporter asked why his lawyer and chief of staff showed up at the gang of 8 meeting.

one asked about harvey weinstein.

why are reporters not hounding nunes in the halls of congress?

no follow up?

c'mon liberal media.




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the silence from republicans this morning after the 'reveal' is stunning. (Original Post) spanone May 2018 OP
Someone should have asked: kentuck May 2018 #1
How about a simple "Why did your campaign have so many Russian connections? " dem4decades May 2018 #26
Ha, I like it. klook May 2018 #27
Ha! jayschool2013 May 2018 #28
... CentralMass May 2018 #52
Maybe they did the switch during her "kidney" procedure, lol FM123 May 2018 #54
FLOTUS is still not holding his hand. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2018 #53
I'll take malaise May 2018 #2
Bingo!!!! spanone May 2018 #3
The Daily Double!!! ... This politician is the most hated in all the land... InAbLuEsTaTe May 2018 #32
And yet.... vi5 May 2018 #4
It's like a bad marriage. Some have to believe the corporate media really is on the side of jalan48 May 2018 #6
That was by design MythosMaster May 2018 #11
You bet your bottom dollar that if Hillary were President the media would be just as stupid LiberalLovinLug May 2018 #31
That is absolutely the truth!!! rainy May 2018 #39
I haven't watched national news volstork May 2018 #18
Yes mikeysnot May 2018 #30
Expect very little from msm and you will not be disappointed. BSdetect May 2018 #5
No, they know exactly what they're doing. Dave Starsky May 2018 #9
repubes are busy cooking up new lies to spew at American citizens Achilleaze May 2018 #7
Love this meme. iluvtennis May 2018 #13
Why are US journalists so dumb? DemocracyMouse May 2018 #8
Hey, now. jayschool2013 May 2018 #29
No kidding. a la izquierda May 2018 #36
My heart goes out to you, a la iz. Been there too. DemocracyMouse May 2018 #38
Your post and analysis of today's universities is spot on. llmart May 2018 #42
Dems need to start treating the media like the cons do Fullduplexxx May 2018 #10
I think anyone who asked that would be escorted off the premises ehrnst May 2018 #12
Yes, the media fear losing access to people who lie to their faces and despise them gratuitous May 2018 #15
I know. At this point if I was a WH journalist, I would have to wonder ehrnst May 2018 #19
Or develop other methods for getting a story gratuitous May 2018 #23
There isn't a substitute for a WH press pass ehrnst May 2018 #24
I subscribed to I F Stone's Weekly when I was very young. We need another I F Stone. fierywoman May 2018 #37
Liberal media fuck randr May 2018 #14
LIEGATE! Love that Schiff came up with apt catchphrase, outwitted el gallo in WH RestoreAmerica2020 May 2018 #16
if their questions are too tough NewJeffCT May 2018 #17
Access to what ? kacekwl May 2018 #33
pretty much NewJeffCT May 2018 #34
Do we know that any media were allowed within shouting distance? n/t Orsino May 2018 #20
yes they were....and they asked about NK and harvey weinstein spanone May 2018 #21
Sorry, misread the OP. Orsino May 2018 #22
its another dud like the previous Nune's shenanigans .You would think they would have learned. drray23 May 2018 #25
If our democracy survives the OrangeTurd, we can thank people like Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu YessirAtsaFact May 2018 #35
The WH is demanding True Blue American May 2018 #44
That's because he warned them he'd cut them off if they reported any bad news about him. C Moon May 2018 #40
One, the media isn't "liberal"-friendly. Two, are you guys crazy? Hortensis May 2018 #41
I agree True Blue American May 2018 #46
:) Breaking out of cable is the best way of identifying Hortensis May 2018 #47
What I want to know is LittleGirl May 2018 #43
this way he controls everything. he can walk away when he doesn't like a question. spanone May 2018 #45
He really is a walking LittleGirl May 2018 #50
Hey, if they won't do it, why not do it yourself? Hortensis May 2018 #48
Really? How? LittleGirl May 2018 #49
How about a general boycott of the media? Anon-C May 2018 #51

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
1. Someone should have asked:
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:48 AM
May 2018

"Mr President, do you still hope to find the spy in your campaign?"

Just to keep the story going and to remind people that he is full of shit.

InAbLuEsTaTe

(24,122 posts)
32. The Daily Double!!! ... This politician is the most hated in all the land...
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:44 PM
May 2018

Adamant Bernie Basher: Who is Bernie Sanders?

Bzzz, bzzzz

Alex: Nooo, I'm sorry... Donald "Tiny Hands" tRump... that takes you down to zero... sorry.

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
4. And yet....
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:59 AM
May 2018

...so many on here still watch. Waiting....hoping....giving them your eyeballs and your attention and your time. In the hopes that they throw us a crumb and then the praise is endless.

jalan48

(13,856 posts)
6. It's like a bad marriage. Some have to believe the corporate media really is on the side of
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:13 AM
May 2018

the average American and will do the right thing next time.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
31. You bet your bottom dollar that if Hillary were President the media would be just as stupid
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:43 PM
May 2018

Egged on by Republicans, and their rival Fox News, they'd be hounding her with email questions, Benghazi questions, and any new invented scandal the the Republicans had come up with by now.

volstork

(5,399 posts)
18. I haven't watched national news
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

since the inauguration. I got up that morning and thought, “Well, they are all going to pretend like all of this is perfectly normal, and I’ll be damned if I’m going to watch it happen.”

mikeysnot

(4,756 posts)
30. Yes
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:41 PM
May 2018

I cancelled my cable and cited the Election coverage and net neutrality as reasons for not paying for tv.

I have two tv's that are barely on. PBS cooking shows on Sat and a few WGN Cubs games about it.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
9. No, they know exactly what they're doing.
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:26 AM
May 2018

As the old saying goes, when someone's paycheck depends on a person not understanding something, count on them "not understanding" it.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
8. Why are US journalists so dumb?
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:18 AM
May 2018

...because most of our professors have been pushed into being adjuncts and can be fired if they are too insistent on rigor from their students. This is another under-reported national crisis, one which affects this country's intellectual core. (And those adjuncts are voiceless in the universities they serve). Adjuncts are also enduring the indignities of sleeping in their cars, going hungry, and doing multiple jobs just to survive. Our best and brightest cannot afford to have a family and thus pass on a critical, thinking culture to a new generation. They are too busy surviving and doing several jobs to stay on campus to help foster an intellectual culture.

So why are US citizens – and journalists – so intellectually lacking? Our education system has been hijacked by the Right Wing business establishment. University presidents and administrator salaries are up, teachers salaries cut in half since 1975. The rise in tuition is due to this "business" approach, just as the cost of healthcare has doubled due to business takeover of medicine.

Personally, I have nothing against entrepreneurial culture and small, for-profit business. Such enterprises are essential for a thriving country. But we had no business ruining the non-profit education and healthcare sectors with the profit motive.

Democrats will win if they articulate "a good ol' fashion" separation of profit and non-profit domains. A for-profit education treats teachers like share-croppers and students like consumers to be coddled, not challenged. And thus these journalists have no roll models for serious debate, serious inquiry and insistent questioning of this flunky Russian puppet.

a la izquierda

(11,791 posts)
36. No kidding.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:30 PM
May 2018

The US university system is dying a painfully slow death.
I teach LatAm history at the university level and can’t wait to quit my job (at a research uni no less). I hate what it’s become and I want no part of it.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
42. Your post and analysis of today's universities is spot on.
Sat May 26, 2018, 07:24 AM
May 2018

It should actually be a thread of its own. Having just retired from a university I can verify that everything you say is true. The business model for running a university is not conducive to teaching critical, independent thinking skills. It's all about the numbers now. Enrollment numbers. Layers upon layers of administrators making tons of money for doing next to nothing. Professors know that they better be graduating every single one of their students, so don't require too much of them. It's appalling and we all pay for the lack of critical thinking skills these graduates have.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
12. I think anyone who asked that would be escorted off the premises
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:39 AM
May 2018

and have their (as well as any of their co-workers) WH press pass seized.

I really think at this point, that would happen.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. Yes, the media fear losing access to people who lie to their faces and despise them
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:49 AM
May 2018

It's a baffling dynamic.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
19. I know. At this point if I was a WH journalist, I would have to wonder
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:03 PM
May 2018

what I would do.

Not ask the hard questions, keep access and some ability to report what is going on.

or

Ask the hard questions, and fall on my professional sword and hope to go down in history like Archibald Cox.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. Or develop other methods for getting a story
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:16 PM
May 2018

I.F. Stone got ousted from a regular beat to report on the goings-on in Washington, so he charted his own course. When the usual doors were closed in his face, he took to haunting the hearings of low-level subcommittees, poring over transcripts when he couldn't be at a hearing, and cultivating contacts and relationships with bureaucrats at the nameless/faceless level. While his self-published periodical "I.F. Stone's Weekly" never gained huge circulation numbers, he broke any number of stories that had slipped by unnoticed in the mainstream media.

It's a different world nowadays than the 50s, 60s, and 70s, but hard work can still find a niche.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
24. There isn't a substitute for a WH press pass
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:20 PM
May 2018

But I do acknowledge that there are other ways of getting information.

As long as you don't get fired from your news org to cover their own butts.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
16. LIEGATE! Love that Schiff came up with apt catchphrase, outwitted el gallo in WH
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:54 AM
May 2018

[Gallo: rooster; colloquial-smart ass, jerk]


NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
17. if their questions are too tough
Fri May 25, 2018, 11:56 AM
May 2018

the journalists are afraid they'll lose access to the Trump clown car

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
34. pretty much
Fri May 25, 2018, 05:17 PM
May 2018

Their job is to be there - if they get shut out, they may get fired because they no longer have access.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
25. its another dud like the previous Nune's shenanigans .You would think they would have learned.
Fri May 25, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

After the democratic leaders raised a stink, they had to admit Schiff in the meeting. This probably derailed the entire scheme.

No doubt they were planning to give the info to the white house as well as claiming all sorts of nonsense knowing the DOJ would not be able to refute it publicly since its classified. Having schiff in there torpedoed the whole thing.

YessirAtsaFact

(2,064 posts)
35. If our democracy survives the OrangeTurd, we can thank people like Adam Schiff and Ted Lieu
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:04 PM
May 2018

It's mind boggling that the troglodytes can't see the treason.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
44. The WH is demanding
Sat May 26, 2018, 09:45 AM
May 2018

A transcript of the proceedings.

You can bet the DOJ gave them as little info as they could. These guys are not dummies. They have worked for years to expose smarter men than Trump.

Rudyis just a senile old man. Even his firm said he did little work in the last 10 years. They just wanted his name. That name is now soiled goods.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
40. That's because he warned them he'd cut them off if they reported any bad news about him.
Sat May 26, 2018, 04:22 AM
May 2018

Our media is owned by money.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. One, the media isn't "liberal"-friendly. Two, are you guys crazy?
Sat May 26, 2018, 04:52 AM
May 2018

Blind? Investigative journalism has never been better. We're flooded with so much information we can't follow it all, and that's entirely due to the fourth estate.

Mueller investigation wouldn't exist without media revelations, and they aren't talking. The FBI hid Russian involvement with Trump all through 2015-2016 and certainly wouldn't be revealing all this to the citizenry in 2017-2018.

We ONLY know anything because of journalists. Yes, some big ones are clearly partly corrupted, including the NYT, but not all are and big information is coming out in spite of it anyway.

Now, WHERE did this trumpster-level negativism about the fourth estate come from?

WHO have enormous interests in demoralizing and creating fake disillusion toward the media in Democrats?

Put down the Kool-Aid.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
46. I agree
Sat May 26, 2018, 09:51 AM
May 2018

Have gone way past the MSM. Various sources are there for all. Why waste time on the crap repeated over and over, hour after hour!

I just learned about the Don Jr. meeting right here!

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
47. :) Breaking out of cable is the best way of identifying
Sat May 26, 2018, 10:02 AM
May 2018

the themes they hit hour after hour -- and especially noting what isn't being talked about. Because elsewhere it is.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
43. What I want to know is
Sat May 26, 2018, 08:44 AM
May 2018

Why is it that IQ45 can't have a press conference?

He's always answering questions with the roar of a helicopter in the background. He's always yelling the answers!

Why is the media allowing this? Why can't they say, shut that engine off and have a proper press conference for crying out loud.

I can't stand the man but for the love of Pete, we must demand that we are given proper protocol for information to the masses from the POTUS.

spanone

(135,816 posts)
45. this way he controls everything. he can walk away when he doesn't like a question.
Sat May 26, 2018, 09:47 AM
May 2018

he can feign that he can't hear the question.

he controls it all.

the media = lap dogs

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
50. He really is a walking
Sat May 26, 2018, 12:32 PM
May 2018

reality star isn't he?
A control freak, must see himself on the news constantly.

The media needs to wise up.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
48. Hey, if they won't do it, why not do it yourself?
Sat May 26, 2018, 10:05 AM
May 2018

Just stop allowing it. Be the change you want to see.

LittleGirl

(8,282 posts)
49. Really? How?
Sat May 26, 2018, 12:31 PM
May 2018

I don't have press credentials but if you mean, shout it out on Twitter to whoever will listen, yes. I can do that.
In about a month.
I'm moving countries right now and my time is focused on packing and selling the house.

I can't listen to the man's voice. I read the highlights from the press like a normal person because he infuriates me!

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