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Source: CNN
London (CNN)The Duchess of Sussex has been bestowed with a coat of arms, days after her royal wedding to Prince Harry, Kensington Palace announced Friday.
Emblazoned with personal touches like the golden poppies from her home state, California, and wintersweet, which grows at her new residence, Kensington Palace, the coat of arms was designed by the College of Arms and approved by Britain's Queen Elizabeth.
The blue background of the shield itself represents the Pacific Ocean off the Californian coast, while the two golden rays across the shield are symbolic of the Golden State.
A Coat of Arms has been created for The Duchess of Sussex: https://t.co/mJb3mqZfaZ pic.twitter.com/0EgbiS29Rb
Kensington Palace (@KensingtonRoyal) May 25, 2018
The figures on either side of the shield, known as supporters, are a songbird and a golden lion wearing a crown.
"It is customary for Supporters of the shield to be assigned to Members of the Royal Family, and for wives of Members of the Royal Family to have one of their husband's Supporters and one relating to themselves," Kensington Palace said in a statement. "The Supporter relating to The Duchess of Sussex is a songbird with wings elevated as if flying and an open beak, which with the quill represents the power of communication."
Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/25/europe/duchess-sussex-meghan-markle-coat-of-arms-intl/index.html
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)I shouldn't have said anything... I find the notion of "royalty" utterly silly so made a bad joke, but I certainly don't fault anybody for taking pleasure in anything harmless in this short and precious life. For example, I just drew a yawn-inducing silly picture of my dog, Picasso style.
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)Goodheart
(5,318 posts)demmiblue
(36,838 posts)canetoad
(17,149 posts)I actually did this a couple of years ago and had it sitting on the computer. Dogs are Nelson, Willie and Rosie.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)A weekday in the 80s. Possibly the most famous painting of the 20th century.
I was alone in the gallery, except for the guard keeping his eye on me.
Then this middle age woman came sweeping around the corner, stopped in front of the painting, and in a thick Bronx accent, which I can barely imitate, said;
"They cawl this AHT? They cawl this AHT? My two year old nephew could do bettah than this!"
The guard and I burst out laughing. She looked indignant and charged away.
brush
(53,764 posts)canetoad
(17,149 posts)And you don't know whether to laugh or cry. The magnificent Jackson Pollock "Blue Poles" was at our State Gallery and I heard, "A kindergarten kid could do that." Bloody philistines!
Goodheart
(5,318 posts)My own took about four minutes and can't compare.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Pretty coat of arms though.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)I can't think of any other reason why they'd put it there.
CharleyDog
(757 posts)I was wondering the same thing. Why the crown around the bird's neck? Guessing... the duchess will never wear the crown, but she is now in the royal family, hence the crown is not on the head (?)
calimary
(81,193 posts)Not sure what that means. The Middletons got a coat-of-arms, too, for their Duchess Kate. It has acorns on it, reflecting the oak trees on the Middletons' estate. Her parents gave her a wedding gift of earrings with acorns suspended from little oak leaves and studded with little diamonds, reflecting the family's new coat-of-arms. Kinda sweet, I thought. But then again, the whole British royalty thing fascinates me (as do the fascinators!).
catrose
(5,065 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)nothing nefarious is intended. Maybe its not on the doves head because it is specifically showing she married into royalty but did not come from a family that had a coat of arms.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Monarchs and queen consorts have crowns on their arms. Children of monarchs, children of the heir apparent and peers have coronets.
I believe you're essentially correct. As she is none of the above in her own right, but as the consort of a h. app the coronet could be displayed. It didn't have to be, but it is a nice touch.
canetoad
(17,149 posts)It's Harry's Ducal coronet.
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Luz
(772 posts)look odd, though.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)It would be interesting to see the coat of arms of commoners marrying into royalty or titled families have something similar.
The coat of arms is supposed to tell a story of that person that anyone can read and in this case who that person married, by combining features from both families. It has a reason to be created.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)fascinating. As you said a family had its history encoded in these oats of arms, and it is fascinating to look at major figures from this period, such as the astonishing she-wolf of France Eleanor of Aquitaines coat of arms and what it says about her history.
As people are saying Meghan herself wont ever be queen so this representation of the crown is traditional. I love the California references and a songbird for Meghan is beautiful.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)there are other coats of arms of similar marriages and how the crown is depicted on the commoner side?
tammywammy
(26,582 posts)And here's an article comparing a few different ones.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/965188/meghan-markle-coat-of-arms-pictures-Princess-Diana-Kate-Middleton-royal-news
lunatica
(53,410 posts)British history is quite interesting.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,489 posts)Choking the bird, so to speak.
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Yavin4
(35,432 posts)eShirl
(18,490 posts)anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Yavin4
(35,432 posts)The show will do that for him. There will forever be a bitter divide among the fans.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts) there are fascinating appearances of coats of arms, family sigils, in medieval history and literature. The visual symbolism is very sophisticated.
This is very pretty and the California twist is cool! This (the beautiful wedding) has been about the only thing making me happy recently since the news is so fcking depressing so thank you!
Wwcd
(6,288 posts)It's honorable, beautiful & just very cool!
Well done Duchess
calimary
(81,193 posts)I think we ALL needed that pleasant, entertaining, and genuinely happy diversion - from these grim times holding us hostage. It was a real joy watching all those hours of live television - and not a SINGLE mention of donald trump. Can you say "RELIEF!!!!" Not ONE WORD! He probably hated it, especially having not been invited. And that just makes it all the better.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)You're right. When you how to read them, arms can tell you a lot. The Spanish royal arms are precis of Spanish history.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)But it strikes me as funny in my own twisted way to think that Meghan Merkle is sacrificing a life of possible interesting debauchery for a stiff upper lip future as Princess. Dull Glam or Fabulous Fun?
erronis
(15,222 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)Last edited Fri May 25, 2018, 06:23 PM - Edit history (1)
have the world drag them through every kind of scandal if they could just debauch freely?
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)Her choices in the wedding ceremony made that clear to me. The Queen obviously accepts her for who she is and seems to adore her (she even let Megan's doggie ride in her car!). I think Megan's role will be not to stiffen her own upper lip, but to soften theirs, and I think the Queen approves. (The young Queen portrayed in "The Crown" often questioned tradition and did her best to toss off its yoke.) And all of that aside, she is truly in love with Harry and he with her. (And that in itself spits in the eye of royal tradition.)
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I was just expressing a bit of my twisted humor. I did include that disclaimer.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)I find it interesting that they chose to honor not the country of her birth, but the state she is from. The touches this choice lends are bright and pretty, like the woman herself, and soften the overall aura of the shield. I, too, am unsure why they chose to place the crown around the bird's neck rather than upon its head. That's the only part I feel looks odd, though.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)...in an unutterably dreary day after day news cycle.
I think we all needed this. And I have no problem with British royalty. Let people have their traditions. The royal family actually brings in a lot of tourist money for GB.
msongs
(67,392 posts)book form
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)And totally approve!!
Hekate
(90,627 posts)It's an arcane subject.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)The balance of her supporter (the feathers for communication, the open beak of the song bird, the wings showing the bird about to take flight) are all about actively using her position to champion the causes she chooses. The crown, rather than sitting decoratively on the birds head, is drawing attention to the throat - another indicator that she will actively use her royal status to speak for what she believes in.
Hekate
(90,627 posts)Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)tammywammy
(26,582 posts)I don't think it symbolizes anything. Probably just that it's more flattering there than at the top of the animal's head.
appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)But no symbols for the (lost) US, 'the American Colonies.' Lol.
Raine
(30,540 posts)and being a native Californian myself it's very nice to see my state represented.
Silver Gaia
(4,542 posts)I love it, too!
appalachiablue
(41,118 posts)Good for California!
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I think the flower has very personal, and romantic, meaning for Meghan and Harry.
One report said that it grows in their garden at Nottingham Cottage. Harry picked springs of the greenery to put in her bridal bouquet and now we see it again in a prominent place on this really beautiful coat of arms.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)I quite like this story of Megan and her Prince. Very fairytale.
Raine
(30,540 posts)Trump's it's Meghan's own that she's entitled to she didn't steal someone else's.
Donkees
(31,367 posts)Coat of Arms of Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, wife of Charles, Prince of Wales (2005-present)
Raine
(30,540 posts)doesn't have the beautiful and gentleness of Meghan's. The boar being chained with the crown around the neck to the land definitely means something.