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Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
Fri May 25, 2018, 08:58 PM May 2018

The police refuse to name the Indiana student who shot two people today..Why?

Who are the police protecting. So what if he is 12 or 13. He tried to kill people. He and his family lost their special privilege of his being a kid and a student, when he tried to kill people. People in the area know who he is as do his fellow students. So what is the big deal? Maybe I am being insensitive, but who is he? And why is that suburb keeping this asshole a secret? You tell me, please.

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The police refuse to name the Indiana student who shot two people today..Why? (Original Post) Stuart G May 2018 OP
Juvenile. n/t rzemanfl May 2018 #1
Is the "juvenile" going to escape being named? Stuart G May 2018 #2
Not really...many states have Very strict juvinile disclosure rules AncientGeezer May 2018 #4
No. Not if the law prevents it. GulfCoast66 May 2018 #5
If he's tried as an adult he will be identified RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #9
The law does not allow naming juveniles SCantiGOP May 2018 #3
I don't care what his name is. mainstreetonce May 2018 #6
Maybe he got them from a family member..I think over time we will find out Stuart G May 2018 #8
And if he stole the guns, Igel May 2018 #10
Yes, you can be held liable for acts committed with your stolen car jberryhill May 2018 #14
Because that's the law. He's a juvenile. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #7
Rememeber the two girls here in Wisconsin who tried to kill their friend for "Slenderman?" Archae May 2018 #11
I remember - that was some weird shit. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2018 #12
Probably because he's white MrScorpio May 2018 #13
This. BumRushDaShow May 2018 #15
Or related to VP Pence. oasis May 2018 #17
I agree with this rule. Laffy Kat May 2018 #16
Why do you want to know? It is a tragedy. He is protected as a juvenile. Tipperary May 2018 #18

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
2. Is the "juvenile" going to escape being named?
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:03 PM
May 2018

Trying to kill someone is certainly beyond privacy..isn't it

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. No. Not if the law prevents it.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:10 PM
May 2018

And if he is, say 13, then do we want him treated like an adult? At that age he is a child.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
9. If he's tried as an adult he will be identified
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:28 PM
May 2018

My guess is there will be several legal steps before that is determined. This really isn't a new thing in any jurisdiction. Are you just learning about the American legal system?

I'm curious as to why it matters so much to you. Like if you know his name is David Smith or Joe Jackson how does it effect you in any way? Are you from Indiana and think you know the family?

Igel

(35,300 posts)
10. And if he stole the guns,
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:40 PM
May 2018

you'd penalize some of his victims for being his victims?

It's like saying that the owner of a stolen car is responsible for any deaths the thief causes. "Something bad was done, I want to find the right people to blame for those actions, but that doesn't mean the perpetrator. I want ________________" where you fill in the predetermined trait of the "truly guilty" party, as opposed to the actually guilty party.

It's the same with suicides. My father bought a Glock and killed himself three months later. He passed the background check; he had a waiting period before he could take possession of the weapon. And he waited. Perhaps he was weighing whether to kill himself or not; perhaps he was considering killing his wife, whose delusions and demented abuse was the trigger for his suicide. Perhaps he was just waiting until his taxes were done and cleaning up the estate and finances would be a cakewalk for me. Dunno. I'm not going to blame Glock or the store, both of which did everything they were supposed to do.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
14. Yes, you can be held liable for acts committed with your stolen car
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:01 PM
May 2018

If you had been negligent in taking ordinary and reasonable precautions from having your car stolen - e.g. you routinely leave it in an area with the keys in the ignition and it is reasonably foreseeable based on the circumstances of that area that doing so would result in someone stealing it - then you can absolutely be held liable.

Someone who does not take what may be determined to be reasonable precautions against their guns being taken and used without their knowledge by a minor, thief or whomever, can certainly be held liable.

In other words, it would be one thing if you kept them locked in an appropriate way, and someone defeated the lock.

It's another thing entirely if you leave them lying around for anyone to grab and go.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
7. Because that's the law. He's a juvenile.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:17 PM
May 2018

If they decide to charge him as an adult they'll probably release his name then. Otherwise the law requires that it not be made public.

Archae

(46,322 posts)
11. Rememeber the two girls here in Wisconsin who tried to kill their friend for "Slenderman?"
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:45 PM
May 2018

They were not named until they were charged as adults.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,681 posts)
12. I remember - that was some weird shit.
Fri May 25, 2018, 09:50 PM
May 2018

But yeah, a juvenile's name can't released by the police unless the kid is to be charged as an adult. I assume this kid's name is already generally known in the area but the police won't say, and most media outlets won't either.

BumRushDaShow

(128,877 posts)
15. This.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:52 PM
May 2018

Black juveniles will usually have DAs quickly decide to "try them as adults" and out come their names.

Laffy Kat

(16,377 posts)
16. I agree with this rule.
Sat May 26, 2018, 12:08 AM
May 2018

Children are children. I also don't believe in charging children as adults. Sorry.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
18. Why do you want to know? It is a tragedy. He is protected as a juvenile.
Sat May 26, 2018, 02:35 AM
May 2018

No worries, no doubt internet vigilantes will out him. Have some patience.

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