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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFirst of all, Democrats are not responsible for Donald Trump.
It is the Republican Party that defends and protects him at the detriment of the country. They are responsible for what he does now and what he might do in the future. Although Trump may be a daily threat to the country and the world, he is where he is at, and where he will be tomorrow, because of the Republicans. They cannot hide in the shadows and refuse to take responsibility, or to blame his divisive rhetoric on the Democrats.
Democrats should wash their hands of this creep. People cannot worry about matters for which they have no control. The Republicans have all the control and they own all the responsibility and blame for whatever the trump might do. They own Donald Trump and the American people need to be reminded daily about who is responsible for what is happening in our country. It is not the politicians in Washington. It is not the liberals. It is not the media. It is the Republican Party. They are the only ones that can do anything about Donald Trump.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Cha
(297,154 posts)the media plays a big part in "both sides do it". And, normalizing trump.. horseraces and ratings, doncha know. They never change.. only get worse.
It is only the Republican Party that has the power to do anything about the situation. Everybody else, including the media, are along for the ride.
Cha
(297,154 posts)and pound on trump like they did on Hillary's emails. Get the danger of trump seeping through to the voters and help get those repubs out of office, who have the power. but won't do anything about trump. Some of them act like Stenographers.. don't ask questions and follow ups because they're scared of getting blackballed or whatever.
Even though trump is doing everything in his power to render them impotent.
I totally hear you.
But if we are talking about who holds responsibility at this moment in time, not in the past, it is the Republican Party. The media cannot impeach him. The Democrats cannot impeach him. The Republicans are the only ones that can rid the country of this tyrant and they refuse to do so. They are responsible for Donald Trump being in power at this moment.
Lil Missy
(17,865 posts)The media help him excessively, gave him what, a billion or so dollars in free coverage during the campaign? Hes good at manipulating them and they are not too smart to fall for it.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)Who is responsible for him right now? A lot of Democrats probably voted for Jill Stein or Donald Trump in the last election? They can't take that vote back and they can do nothing about Donald Trump right now - right this minute. A lot of people can be blamed for putting him into power but only one Party can get him out of power. Donald Trump is the total responsibility of the Republican Party at this time.
Cha
(297,154 posts)Butterflylady
(3,542 posts)Ryan, McDonnell, Dummpy and the rest will be portrayed as traitors.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)Nunes, the biggest traitor of all. He is such toady, spineless little wimp.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)History is written by the victors.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I was devastated about the presidency, and in total disbelief. But when I saw the results for Congress, I was totally destroyed.
They got control of everything. That's why I cried all night. There was no way to stop them.
And I still haven't woken up from this nightmare.
Great post.
Demsrule86
(68,552 posts)and there is always an implicit threat 'or we walk'. Yeah that would help demand the impossible and then if you don't get it make everything worse by helping elect more Republicans. The post that really brings that home was the comparison of the Obama administration and lost undocumented kids It implied that Obama ripped kids from their parents which is not true. These kids arrived unaccompanied. HHS dropped the ball surprise surprise, this always happens with social services...always underfunded by a Republican congress but many of those kids released to family failed to show up to avoid deportation. Families could pick up the kids without fear of deportation...not the same thing we have now...but sure post an article blaming the Democrats. And of course there is DACA...people out protesting Schumer and bitching about Democrats. Trump did this not Democrats. Many who complain the loudest also said awful things about Hillary on social media and other places... whether they eventually voted for her or not, they caused lasting damage. As another poster noted, the loss of the House and the Senate kneecapped Democrats and made it impossible to stop Trump. I believe our Democrats have behaved heroically using what few tools remain from a disloyal electorate to stop as much as they which is if you think about it pretty substantial.
Some have not learned from the 16 election that the most important thing is to vote for and support Democrats period, end of story, always. And there is no point in criticizing the only party that can stop Trump and the Republicans. You only drive away voters and help Republicans.
louis c
(8,652 posts)Those people who have a Liberal political leaning. Who believe in social justice, equality and economic inclusion, who voted for Jill Stein, stayed home, blanked or wrote in a name in the General Election are more responsible for the election of Donald Trump than even Trump voters.
The reason I hold these people in the greatest contempt is because they are supposed to know better.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)....but it it the elected Republicans in the Congress and Senate that are keeping this threat over our heads each and every passing day. That is who holds the responsibility at this moment in our history.
There are numerous people who can be blamed for allowing it to happen in the first place but only a few that can be blamed for allowing it to continue.
quartz007
(1,216 posts)why is this something new? I do not recall Republicans opposing #43, #41, #40 either. That is what republicans always do.
Kyblue1
(216 posts)They have acquiesced in the fascist takeover so that their team can win and stay in power. Party over country. The people of this country need to be reminded of the Republican party's choice of power over all else. McConnell is the best example. He now boasts that they are changing the country for generations to come.
Progressive dog
(6,900 posts)and none of them are Democrats.
The Republicans are the only Americans who can do anything about Trump or about continued foreign intervention in our elections. Of course they have already chosen sides against the Constitution and for the tyrant Trump.
Perseus
(4,341 posts)If the roles were reversed, republicans would be out there in the media yelling all over the place against someone like trump, they did it against Obama, Clinton, Franken, etc., people who have very little to criticize, but they did it anyway. Why is it that the democrats are not yelling harder, the only one I see out there is Adam Schiff but the rest are staying too quiet instead of exposing trump and the republicans. There is so much to say and to tell the citizens of the USA on what is going on.
Democrats should be pressing the media for their role into helping bring trump to the presidency, although I am a firm believer that the votes were rigged, the machines were hacked. But the same way republicans are good at creating memes, so should the democrats, united, do.
You are correct that Democrats are not responsible for where trump is, but they are responsible to fight harder. You are not going to convert the deplorable easily, I understand that, but "get the vote out" and explain in plain English how the republicans are affecting regular people, maybe some of those deplorable will stop supporting trump and the gop.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And so they get less coverage overall- but theyre out strongly denouncing DT and the shit policies he is pushing every single day.
doc03
(35,325 posts)Kyblue1
(216 posts)McConnell and his gang in the Senate will change the country for generations by installing Federalist Society zombies to the federal courts.
Ligyron
(7,627 posts)Welcome to DU, btw!
ananda
(28,858 posts)This is a corruption that can only be cleaned up
by citizens doing their civic duty, whatever that
means, including protest, demonstration, legal
avenues, all concomitant on not standing down
or giving up!!!!!
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)ewagner
(18,964 posts)At first thought, tying Trump around the neck of the Republican Party like the albatross of the Ancient Mariner is a good idea. It would definitely solidify our opposition to him and give us a common cause to take to the polls in November...
on edit:
Forgot to mention: rather that trying to organize around issues which even some Democrats cannot agree upon, focusing on Trump alone...within the party...might prevent some of the normal divisions that take place within the Democratic Party.
The downside is it will also galvanize the trumpsters who believe every lying word that comes out of his mouth and also that he has "already made America Great Again"...as foolish as that is, there are idiots who espouse this to me daily.
IF.....
We can motivate more that we ostracize then it's a good strategy or perhaps sub-strategy for November
Duppers
(28,120 posts)the corporate media did help elect him.
May I ask for opinions on why so many Americans are asleep in their cradles of apathy? Barely anything seems to get thru.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)I believe we all -- all of us in the electorate and anyone else living here -- and all those in Washington definitely need to ALSO do everything they can to put pressure on their Republicans in Congress. It's essential, critical and URGENT.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)quartz007
(1,216 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)so we are responsible for all that has happened and only we ca nfix it
kentuck
(111,079 posts)It is not about who put him there, it is about who keeps him there. We can find plenty of people to blame for who put him into power, but our challenge is with the present.