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pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:35 PM May 2018

Google news is terrible now. If you google the Mueller investigation,

for example, only a handful of today's stories will come up in the search, along with examples of older stories. If some new document has been filed, there might be only one report on it from one outlet, and no way I can see to link to more stories on the same topic.

I've looked at yahoo.com but it seems to have the same issue. Are there any other searches that are better?

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Google news is terrible now. If you google the Mueller investigation, (Original Post) pnwmom May 2018 OP
Avenatti having fun again empedocles May 2018 #1
Of course he doesn't. He's terrified of Avenatti. bearsfootball516 May 2018 #29
In perspective, empedocles May 2018 #2
Welcome to DU, empedocies! nt pnwmom May 2018 #3
Everything slows down on a holiday weekend. Blue_Adept May 2018 #4
This has been happening for several days. The format is different, too. There are no links pnwmom May 2018 #5
The New Google News: 6 Striking Changes You Should Know About Blue_Adept May 2018 #6
Thanks for the info. I still hate it. :) pnwmom May 2018 #7
This is the second major downgrade to Google News in less than a year. Fozzledick May 2018 #8
I've noticed a decline for a while. lpbk2713 May 2018 #9
I don't find that at all. Mueller doesn't give updates, you know. Hortensis May 2018 #10
I know that. But when the NYTimes breaks a story, for example, it is often followed pnwmom May 2018 #11
I see what you mean. Knowing that the NYT has Hortensis May 2018 #14
I just used it as an example. There are many good sources behind paywalls these days pnwmom May 2018 #15
I'm always doing that myself. We canceled our Hortensis May 2018 #20
I find I get better results going in via the standard Google front page muriel_volestrangler May 2018 #12
Thanks, I'll try. pnwmom May 2018 #17
I thought Google news set us up for the same sort of targeting Hortensis May 2018 #21
I didn't think that they could make it any worse 4now May 2018 #13
I'm glad someone could see what I meant! pnwmom May 2018 #16
They changed it for the worse. Scurrilous May 2018 #18
The new design is apparently to accomodate cell phones. Liberal In Texas May 2018 #19
I don't think they're doing it just to save money. It shouldn't be so heavily weighted pnwmom May 2018 #22
I get 153 Million hits. If I change the filter to the "Past 24 Hours," I get 81,700 hits. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #23
Are you on Google or Google News? pnwmom May 2018 #24
www.google.com -- Sorry, I didn't see or use Google News. That's probably like Yahoo News. TheBlackAdder May 2018 #25
I'm talking about news.google.com, which used to be a useful page. Not so much anymore. n/t pnwmom May 2018 #26
None of the links you provided seem to open up to an actual article. Perhaps that's what they're politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #31
Google News and Fox CloudWatcher May 2018 #27
Completely agree. Plus, I selected my sources and excluded Fox, but what do I get? mahina May 2018 #28
This makes it go back to normal, for now.... tableturner May 2018 #30
!! leftstreet May 2018 #32

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
1. Avenatti having fun again
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:44 PM
May 2018

Avenatti on morning joy today, twitters several punches to trump face today. trump who has slandered, etc almost everyone in his orbit, never seems to even mention avenatti.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
2. In perspective,
Sun May 27, 2018, 02:50 PM
May 2018

we have become conditioned to huge amounts of trump or mueller related news. I cannot recall anything like this coverage, in amount, from all sorts of sources, etc.
That said, I would like to see some Mueller coverage. I'm with you pnwmom.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
5. This has been happening for several days. The format is different, too. There are no links
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:02 PM
May 2018

to related articles. I think this is the new Google News.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
8. This is the second major downgrade to Google News in less than a year.
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:27 PM
May 2018

They've eliminated most of the content and functionality leaving a dysfunctional stub.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
10. I don't find that at all. Mueller doesn't give updates, you know.
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:38 PM
May 2018

But there's more discussion than anyone has time to read, knowing that it just keeps coming.

Looks like having so much turned up by investigative journalists that evening shows like Rachel's have to pack whole lists of new scandalous events in an hour may have spoiled us just a little. Remember, we've never known what's really happening in the investigation, only that it keep widening, and widening, and widening.

A quieter spell with nothing but Giuliani's attempts to spin our brains is an opportunity to widen reading to other sources. This is part of a quick muse on this moment, a reminder to be patient rather than anything new though.

Reading the Mueller Tea Leaves During a Confusing Week If the Papadopoulos or Kushner news left you feeling like maybe the Mueller investigation won’t have much to show for itself when all is said and done, there were plenty of other stories this week that suggest we don’t know the half of it.

In a court filing on Wednesday, Mueller’s office said, “The Special Counsel’s investigation is not a closed matter, but an ongoing criminal investigation with multiple lines of non-public inquiry.”

This was the strongest indication from the special counsel itself that it’s work is not close to done and much of it is still secret.

There was also a steady stream of new revelations of corruption and possible collusion with foreign governments on the part of Trump campaign officials and associates.
https://www.justsecurity.org/57023/reading-mueller-tea-leaves-confusing-week/


pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
11. I know that. But when the NYTimes breaks a story, for example, it is often followed
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:46 PM
May 2018

by many stories from many outlets, all of which don't include the same details. If the NYTimes story is behind a paywall, with the old Google you could still read most of it through a combination of other sources. Now that's much, much harder.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. I see what you mean. Knowing that the NYT has
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:01 PM
May 2018

often twisted coverage to benefit the right ("often" during the 2015-2016 campaign meaning every day, or in every Hillary Clinton event for the previous 25 years), though, maybe having to look beyond the NYT sphere is necessarily a bad thing.

ProPublica's been winning awards for its own investigative journalism. These are a couple among many.

A Short History of Threats Received by Donald Trump’s Opponents
The pattern goes beyond Stormy Daniels.
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-short-history-of-threats-received-by-donald-trumps-opponents

A Guide for Digging Through Trump’s Financial Disclosures" Here’s how we searched through President Donald Trump’s financial disclosures, and how you can, too.
https://www.propublica.org/article/a-guide-for-digging-through-trumps-financial-disclosures

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
15. I just used it as an example. There are many good sources behind paywalls these days
Sun May 27, 2018, 04:15 PM
May 2018

and unless you want to have subscriptions to all of them, it is helpful to read reports of other sources that cite them -- or even do their own stories on related topics. It's much, much harder to find these related stories with the new Google news.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. I'm always doing that myself. We canceled our
Sun May 27, 2018, 07:22 PM
May 2018

NYT subscription after their role in throwing the election to the Republicans, including that extremely deceiving article just before the election, and kept WaPo and LATimes, which is my husband's favorite. But they also do excellent investigative journalism, and like you I'm always wanting to read what they're out front on.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,306 posts)
12. I find I get better results going in via the standard Google front page
Sun May 27, 2018, 03:51 PM
May 2018

and then switching to 'News' - this give me the old Google News listing.

So I type 'Mueller investigation' into the normal google.co.uk (google.com for you, I guess). From those results, I then select the 'News' option from the menu at the top of the results ('All News Shopping Videos Images More'). That also then gives me the option of 'Tools' which has 'Sorted by Date', which gives you the latest ones (though that can end up being a lot of ones all based on the same AP report, sometimes).

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I thought Google news set us up for the same sort of targeting
Sun May 27, 2018, 07:30 PM
May 2018

and manipulation that Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and others did. Letting once source choose what you'll see sounds like a very bad idea. They're claiming to be cleaning themselves up, but there's no law requiring it, their executives haven't had brain transplants, and business overall doesn't want Democrats in power.

Liberal In Texas

(13,546 posts)
19. The new design is apparently to accomodate cell phones.
Sun May 27, 2018, 05:05 PM
May 2018

On my phone I noticed after an upgrade or app update the "Newsstand" now just says "News" with a G logo in the icon. When you open it they are the exact same stories I get on my desktop now with the new Google News. They just look like they're designed for the phone and don't work so good on the computer.
Why they couldn't leave well enough alone is a mystery. Probably saves money.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
23. I get 153 Million hits. If I change the filter to the "Past 24 Hours," I get 81,700 hits.
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:29 PM
May 2018

The top page, in order:


News for mueller investigation
CNN Giuliani says origin of Mueller probe was 'illegitimate'
CNN - 9 hours agoPresident Donald Trump's lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, defended the President's
political attacks against special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into the
Trump ...Giuliani says Mueller's Russia probe is “rigged,” no longer legitimate.
Slate Magazine - 5 hours agoPresident Donald Trump blasts '13 Angry Democrats,' Robert Mueller probe in Twitter rant
USA TODAY - 10 hours ago

Mueller Investigation Latest : NPR
https://www.npr.org/2018/05/27/614810154/mueller-investigation-latest
Robert Mueller doesn't speak publicly about his investigation and his office is fighting news outlets seeking information.
NPR's Lulu Garcia-Navarro talks with Watergate prosecutor Jill Wine-Banks.
... So far, Robert Mueller's investigation into possible Russian interference in the ...

the Mueller - Esquire
https://www.esquire.com/.../trump-young-and-beautiful-lives-russian- investigation-tweet/?Cached
President Trump took to Twitter Sunday morning to air his grievances about the
Mueller investigation, or, as he prefers to call it, the "Witch Hunt." It's something ...

President Donald Trump rips '13 Angry Democrats,' Mueller on Twitter
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...mueller.../648303002/?Cached
President Donald Trump blasts '13 Angry Democrats,' Robert Mueller probe in Twitter rant.
President Trump revisited his angry crusade against special counsel Robert Mueller's "rigged investigation" on Sunday, blasting Democrats for failing to investigate the 2016 campaign of ...

Mueller's probe into Trump is a 'rigged investigation,' Giuliani says ...
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/.../mueller...investigation.../story.html
Rudy Giuliani said Sunday that he does not see Special Counsel Robert
Mueller's investigation into Russian involvement in the election as legitimate. “
Not any ...

Giuliani Admits 'Spygate' Is PR About Impeachment - NYMag
nymag.com/.../giuliani-admits-spygate-is-pr-about-impeachment.html?Cached
Rudy Giuliani confirmed on Sunday that the president and his allies' attempts to
discredit the Mueller investigation — including the most recent so-called ...

Donald Trump says Robert Mueller probe has 'destroyed' people's ...
https://nypost.com/.../trump-says-mueller-probe-has-destroyed-peoples-lives/?Cached
President Trump said "young and beautiful lives" have been destroyed by special
counsel Robert Mueller's "Witch Hunt" investigation into Russian interference ...

Rudy Giuliani: Robert Mueller's Russia investigation is 'rigged,' no ...
https://www.washingtontimes.com/.../rudy-giuliani-robert-muellers-russia- investigation/?Cached
Rudolph Giuliani, one of President Trump's lawyers, said Sunday he no longer
thinks special counsel Robert Mueller's probe into Russian ties to the president's
...

Giuliani says Mueller probe 'rigged,' focusing on things that didn't ...
www.foxnews.com/.../giuliani-says-mueller-probe-rigged-focusing-on-things -that-didnt-happen.html
President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani said Sunday again that the president is
eager for Robert Mueller to conclude the Russia investigation and that Trump ...

Giuliani says Mueller's Russia probe is “rigged,” no longer legitimate.
https://slate.com/.../giuliani-says-muellers-russia-probe-is-rigged-no-longer- legitimate.html?Cached
When CNN's Dana Bash outright asked Giuliani whether he thinks the Mueller
investigation is legitimate, Giuliani said no. “Not anymore, I don't,” Giuliani said.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
31. None of the links you provided seem to open up to an actual article. Perhaps that's what they're
Mon May 28, 2018, 12:26 AM
May 2018

talking about.

CloudWatcher

(1,846 posts)
27. Google News and Fox
Sun May 27, 2018, 09:51 PM
May 2018

I gave up on Google News years ago -- when I found I couldn't get it to omit bogus crap from Fox News.

But then, it's been years. Maybe they've added the ability to filter out the crap since then.

mahina

(17,646 posts)
28. Completely agree. Plus, I selected my sources and excluded Fox, but what do I get?
Sun May 27, 2018, 10:04 PM
May 2018

Fox is always in my feed. I never click the links but they keep showing up. Ugh.

Reddit has supplanted google news for me. Of course down side, there are subreddits even for trump fans. But world news is good. I’ll have a look for US news.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/
Please excuse text illegibility but I am adding this info in case you hesitate to click links, as I do.
Here’s what you can read on reddit world news now, and lots more:

r/worldnews143du/sinfemAccounts of int'l leaders
Facebook declines to say why it deletes certain political accounts, but not others | US news
theguardian
Share4074 Comments52270
r/worldnews34du/retrotronica
Saudi-Led Airstrike at Yemen Wedding Killed at Least 20 | World News | US News
usnews
Share177 Comments589
r/worldnews2du/darrylfzx
GDPR: US news sites blocked to EU users over data protection rules
bbc
Share16 Comments87
r/worldnews1yu/arslan555pk
US Navy banned from using sonar that harms dolphins and walruses | US news
theguardian
Share133 Comments1578
r/worldnews213du/tngpcTrump
Democrats push bill to stop a Trump pre-emptive strike on North Korea | US news
theguardian
Share62 Comments162
r/worldnews2du/DoremusJessup
GDPR 'doomsday' shakes up internet services: Just when you thought the emails would stop, things may have taken a turn for the worse. GDPR has arrived with some unforeseen consequences, including US news sites blocking access and companies suspending service
dw
Share19 Comments25
r/worldnews208du/OXOloveTrump
Donald Trump tweets dismiss George Papadopoulos as 'low level volunteer' | US news
theguardian
Share47 Comments100
r/worldnews1yu/screaming_librarianTrump
NSA director says British intelligence was not asked to spy on Trump | US news
theguardian
Share73 Comments364
r/worldnews4yu/Taniwha_NZ
Report will detail how Jimmy Savile abused up to a THOUSAND young boys and girls on BBC premises. (xpost from r/news because I forgot that's for US news)
theguardian
Share189 Comments946
r/worldnews51du/BransonOnTheInternetTrump
Ex-Trump aide Paul Manafort approved 'black ops' to help Ukraine president | US news | The Guardian
theguardian
Share9 Comments59
r/worldnews3yu/jogam123
Cuba to Export Cancer Vaccine to US, New York Governor Confirms
telesurtv.net
Share83 Comments732
r/worldnews2yu/MexWevC
Immigration News Today: Mexico Deportation Rate Outpaces US, Most Deportees Are Not Criminals : US News
latinpost
Share160 Comments114
r/worldnews43du/awaisshabbir3785Trump
Donald Trump praises Syria strikes and declares: 'Mission accomplished' | US news
theguardian
Share18 Comments3
r/worldnews7yu/KenDubYa

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