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Sun May 27, 2018, 05:07 PM

Fascism has definitely come to America

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Reply Fascism has definitely come to America (Original post)
ProudLib72 May 2018 OP
SummerSnow May 2018 #1
Stuart G May 2018 #2
walkingman May 2018 #11
lastlib May 2018 #12
walkingman May 2018 #17
brooklynite May 2018 #3
ProudLib72 May 2018 #6
VOX May 2018 #22
ck4829 May 2018 #24
Skidmore May 2018 #4
ProudLib72 May 2018 #7
lastlib May 2018 #14
bdamomma May 2018 #18
sky rot May 2018 #5
Ferrets are Cool May 2018 #8
trof May 2018 #9
ProudLib72 May 2018 #10
murielm99 May 2018 #15
StevieM May 2018 #13
lostnfound May 2018 #16
ProudLib72 May 2018 #20
Liberalagogo May 2018 #19
ProudLib72 May 2018 #21
VOX May 2018 #23
ck4829 May 2018 #25

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 05:15 PM

1. Truth

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 05:36 PM

2. very sad..............k and r....................

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #2)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:21 PM

11. What does K and r mean? I see it all the time.

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Response to walkingman (Reply #11)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:27 PM

12. "Kick" (for visibility) & "Recommend"

you're welcome.

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Response to lastlib (Reply #12)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:35 PM

17. Thanks!

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 05:58 PM

3. No, it hasn't

Our democratic institutions may be at risk, but it has definitely not "come".

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:19 PM

6. You misunderstand

The Rump is fascism; what he desires is fascism. Whether or not he wins and turns the nation completely fascist is up to us.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #3)

Sun May 27, 2018, 09:21 PM

22. Respectfully disagree.

All three branches of government are currently under one-party rule, and the executive branch has a greater concentration of power (shifting toward authoritarian rule) which it deliberately and doggedly uses to destroy the boundaries of those branches; the end result of which is a chief executive who can pressure the judiciary, or the congress, or law enforcement.

Some common characteristics of fascism include opposition to parliamentary democracy; opposition to political and cultural liberalism; and totalitarian ambitions. The Trump “administration” has more than signaled its position in these diagnostic areas.

The trappings of fascism are evident on a daily basis: the cult of personality, built around a hollow man with no intellect or scruples; militarism on a grand scale, with the threat of military action (including nuclear weapons); extreme xenophobia, the demonization of immigrants and POC; a flood of private and corporate monies designed to buy favor; and a radical flouting of established law.

Fascism is here. And the longer it is in power, the deeper its roots will sink.

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Response to VOX (Reply #22)

Sun May 27, 2018, 11:41 PM

24. +1

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:03 PM

4. So do we handwring and

accept it or do we prevent its creep?

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #4)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:37 PM

7. Resist!

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #4)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:29 PM

14. we Stand Up. we Speak Out. we RESIST!

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #4)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:36 PM

18. no not accept, His freaking

base may because they don't know better but we are the MAJORITY, we will not stand for this crap.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:09 PM

5. The idiot doesn't even realize he's holding the book upside down.

 

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:47 PM

8. K and R

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 06:57 PM

9. "It Can't Happen Here"



It Can't Happen Here is a semi-satirical 1935 political novel by American author Sinclair Lewis,[1] and a 1936 play adapted from the novel by Lewis and John C. Moffitt.[2]

Published during the rise of fascism in Europe, the novel describes the rise of Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip, a politician who defeats Franklin Delano Roosevelt (FDR) and is elected President of the United States, after fomenting fear and promising drastic economic and social reforms while promoting a return to patriotism and "traditional" values.

After his election, Windrip takes complete control of the government and imposes a plutocratic/totalitarian rule with the help of a ruthless paramilitary force, in the manner of Adolf Hitler and the SS. The novel's plot centers on journalist Doremus Jessup's opposition to the new regime and his subsequent struggle against it as part of a liberal rebellion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

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Response to trof (Reply #9)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:07 PM

10. Where are our Jessups?

I envision the Rump as the sole actor who steps away from the chorus in an ancient Greek play. The chorus never gets another separate line for the rest of the play. It's all the Rump and the chorus joining in to add to the Rump's lines. That's not tragedy; that's farce.

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Response to trof (Reply #9)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:33 PM

15. I own that book.

I reread it when Dubya stole the election. It is even more relevant now.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:28 PM

13. Agreed, but Donald Trump is not to blame by himself.

Paul Ryan, Jason Chaffetz and others have been driving us in this direction for years.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:34 PM

16. Misspelled fascism? Or was that intentional? Nt

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #16)

Sun May 27, 2018, 08:27 PM

20. Whoops!

Fascism and I don't get along you see.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 07:57 PM

19. FYI don't use a fake quote to attack the Shithole

 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/sinclair-lewis-on-fascism/

However, Reagan said:
"If fascism ever comes to America, it will come in the name of liberalism."
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ronald-reagan-fascism-liberalism/

Proof that his senility was kicking in during the 1970s.

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Response to Liberalagogo (Reply #19)

Sun May 27, 2018, 08:39 PM

21. Yikes! It's amazing that there are so many memes, even bumper stickers attributing this

quote to Lewis. So here is something strange. Was this the beginning of the "quote"?

In 2005 a letter to the editor of a Poughkeepsie, New York newspaper attributed the saying to Sinclair Lewis and incorrectly cited a book that does not contain the expression:

In his book, “It Can’t Happen Here” (1935), Sinclair Lewis wrote, “When fascism comes to. America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross.” https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/07/28/flag/


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Response to ProudLib72 (Reply #21)

Sun May 27, 2018, 09:30 PM

23. It's tricky. But Sinclair Lewis DID say this about fascism:

It’s easy to see how the quote is so often attributed to him:
https://english.illinoisstate.edu/sinclairlewis/
From It Can't Happen Here: "But he saw too that in America the struggle was befogged by the fact that the worst Fascists were they who disowned the word 'Fascism' and preached enslavement to Capitalism under the style of Constitutional and Traditional Native American Liberty."

From Gideon Planish: "I just wish people wouldn't quote Lincoln or the Bible, or hang out the flag or the cross, to cover up something that belongs more to the bank-book and the three golden balls."

There was also a play by Sherman Yellen called Strangers in the late 1970s which had a similar quote, but no one, including one of Lewis’s biographers, Richard Lingeman, has ever been able to locate the original citation.

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Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 11:41 PM

25. Kick

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