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struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:41 AM May 2018

The battlefields of WWI are fading into greenery

Last updated 12:04, May 29 2018


A sign marks where the main street once passed on the site of the former village of Bezonvaux, France. Bezonvaux, like a host of other villages in the region, was obliterated during the intense artillery and trench warfare between the German and French armies during the Battle of Verdun.


A preserved Belgian World War I trench system near Passchendaele.


A piece of barbed wire dating from World War I stands on the site of the former village of Bezonvaux, France.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/europe/104289641/over-horror-nature-grows-after-100-years-the-battlefields-of-wwi-are-fading-into-greenery

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The battlefields of WWI are fading into greenery (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2018 OP
very poignant, thanks yonder May 2018 #1
"I am the grass; I cover all..." Hekate May 2018 #2
My grandpa fought in ww1 askyagerz May 2018 #3
Here's "Grass" read by Carl Sandburg longship May 2018 #4
+ struggle4progress May 2018 #11
as with the WWI scenery. here i shall HIGLY recommend a WWI book. pansypoo53219 May 2018 #5
Flanders Field sky rot May 2018 #6
I visited Verdun in 1998 and was surprised by the huge area.... rgbecker May 2018 #7
The death toll was staggering just from the protracted battle of Verdun Uncle Joe May 2018 #9
I was there about 50 years ago. The ossuary is a horror. The battlefield itself, before struggle4progress May 2018 #10
Modern aerial photos melm00se May 2018 #8
Both of my grandfathers fought in France Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #12

askyagerz

(776 posts)
3. My grandpa fought in ww1
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:14 AM
May 2018

Wish I knew more about where he was fought so I could visit some of the places. All I know for sure was he got a shrapnel wound in the trenches somewhere in Belgium.

pansypoo53219

(20,969 posts)
5. as with the WWI scenery. here i shall HIGLY recommend a WWI book.
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:39 AM
May 2018

Floyd Gibbons- and they said we wouldn't fight. an amazing book. so glad i grabbed it at an estate sale. now i know why it was in such a bad condition, but complete.

rgbecker

(4,826 posts)
7. I visited Verdun in 1998 and was surprised by the huge area....
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:00 AM
May 2018

of land still showing the result of the artillery shells. As your first picture shows the whole place is like a skier's mogul nightmare. Endless bomb craters over acres and acres. At first I couldn't figure out what I was looking at. Then seeing pictures of the battlefield during and after the war I realized what the artillery had caused. The mausoleum which contains the remains of 100,000 soldiers blown to bits shows none of the beauty of the flower covered cemeteries.

Uncle Joe

(58,345 posts)
9. The death toll was staggering just from the protracted battle of Verdun
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:37 AM
May 2018


(snip)

Poor weather delayed the beginning of the German attack until 21 February, but the Germans enjoyed initial success, capturing Fort Douaumont in the first three days of the offensive. Afterwards the German advance slowed, despite many French casualties. By 6 March, ​20 1?2 French divisions were in the RFV and a more extensive defence in depth had been constructed. Pétain ordered that no withdrawals were to be made and that counter-attacks were to be conducted, despite exposing French infantry to fire from the German artillery. By 29 March, French artillery on the west bank had begun a constant bombardment of German positions on the east bank, which caused many German infantry casualties.

In March, the German offensive was extended to the left (west) bank of the Meuse, to gain observation of the ground from which French artillery had been firing over the river onto the Meuse Heights. The Germans were able to advance at first but French reinforcements contained the attacks short of their objectives. In early May, the Germans changed tactics and made local attacks and counter-attacks, which gave the French an opportunity to begin an attack against Fort Douaumont. Part of the fort was occupied, until a German counter-attack recaptured the fort and took numerous prisoners. The Germans changed tactics again, alternating their attacks on both banks of the Meuse and in June captured Fort Vaux. The Germans continued the offensive beyond Vaux, towards the last geographical objectives of the original plan, at Fleury-devant-Douaumont and Fort Souville. The Germans drove a salient into the French defences, captured Fleury and came within 4 km (2.5 mi) of the Verdun citadel.

In July 1916, the German offensive was reduced to provide artillery and infantry reinforcements for the Somme front and during local operations, the village of Fleury changed hands sixteen times from 23 June to 17 August. A German attempt to capture Fort Souville in early July was repulsed by artillery and small arms fire. To supply reinforcements for the Somme front, the German offensive was reduced further and attempts were made to deceive the French into expecting more attacks, to keep French reinforcements away from the Somme. In August and December, French counter-offensives recaptured much of the ground lost on the east bank and recovered Fort Douaumont and Fort Vaux.

The Battle of Verdun lasted for 303 days and became the longest and one of the most costly battles in human history. An estimate in 2000 found a total of 714,231 casualties, 377,231 French and 337,000 German, for an average of 70,000 casualties a month; other recent estimates increase the number of casualties to 976,000 during the battle, with 1,250,000 suffered at Verdun during the war.

(snip)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Verdun


struggle4progress

(118,273 posts)
10. I was there about 50 years ago. The ossuary is a horror. The battlefield itself, before
Tue May 29, 2018, 09:43 AM
May 2018

the remains were finally collected, must have been a real nightmare

Rhiannon12866

(205,161 posts)
12. Both of my grandfathers fought in France
Wed May 30, 2018, 05:13 AM
May 2018

My paternal grandfather signed up with his brother. They were first generation, parents both emigrated from Ireland. And my maternal grandfather emigrated from Poland - in 1912 at age 18. They made him a citizen and sent him to France to fight for his new country. Fortunately, both of them made it back or I wouldn't be here...

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