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queentonic

(243 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:29 AM May 2018

Don't you see the pattern?

Trump tweeting "Happy" Memorial Day was deliberate. He is attempting to denigrate anything sacred to the American tradition. By doing so he will enable his supporters in Congress to keep him from being impeached and removed from office because Americans will have no faith in anything as true no matter how much factual data Mueller provides. But it's more sinister than that. I highly recommend Jacques Ellul's book "Propaganda" if you want to get an idea of how Goebbels Nazified Germany by doing exactly what Trump is doing. Tell a lie often enough and long enough and it will be believed - but it must have a kernel of truth to it. An informant becomes a spy, an investigation becomes a witchhunt, etc., etc. Ellul does a very good job of breaking down Goebbels' methodology and how he was able to make the German people believe right up until the end of the war that they had secret weapons which would save Germany at the very last minute.

I also recommend Erik Larsens' book "In the Garden of Beasts: Love, Terror, and an American Family in Hitler's Berlin" if you want to see how Nazification takes place incrementally over time. This is precisely what Trump et. al. are doing via immigration, name calling, bullying etc, etc. It's all there for anyone to understand how it happened in Germany and how it is happening now in the U.S.

We learned from an interview of Ivana Trump by Vanity Fair that "Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist." Source: Vanity Fair, by Marie Brenner September 1, 1990 3:08 pm.

What comes next will be the brown shirts if this model holds true. Perhaps ICE is the beginning of that trend. It's now becoming acceptable for 1,500 children to disappear or as Rick Santorum put it Sunday - the roughly 1500 migrant children whom the government has lost track of aren't lost. Call me paranoid but ask anyone who lived through Germany in the 1930's and they will agree. We are slowly but surely becoming a U.S. version of the Nazi state.

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Laffy Kat

(16,373 posts)
1. Recently read "The Garden of the Beasts" and was floored.
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:58 AM
May 2018

The parallels cannot be denied and the book was published in 2011, I think. It scared living daylights out of me. Even though I have been aware of 45's Hitler admiration, he has always seemed way too stupid to possess or carryout cunningness. You're OP has me re-thinking my skepticism.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
9. Looking for it now. Do you remember who authored it?
Tue May 29, 2018, 08:10 AM
May 2018

I'm finding multiple books with that name, published mostly before 2011.

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
2. If Trump ever gets money
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:05 AM
May 2018

for his border wall, it will include money for more agents. These agents will not patrol the border area, they will patrol everywhere but the border, rounding up people.

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
4. I have been saying that since George W Bush was President...
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:29 AM
May 2018

If you have a platform and lie enough over and over, people start to believe it as true. Trump is a true evil man with know conscience.

alterfurz

(2,469 posts)
5. Wonder what you would have been doing in Germany, as Hitler rose to power?
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:36 AM
May 2018

You're doing it right now. -- Amy Siskind

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
7. Chilling. Let that sink in.
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:59 AM
May 2018


This question should be on giant billboards criss-crossing the entire country/planet.

So now I'm reflecting on what I'm doing and wondering if it's enough or what more can I do.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,664 posts)
6. This message has to be taken beyond...
Tue May 29, 2018, 06:53 AM
May 2018

The digital walls of DU. We have to be reminded, they have to be taught.

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