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Tommy_Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:06 PM May 2018

An open message to John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf and Sara Gilbert:

Last edited Tue May 29, 2018, 01:54 PM - Edit history (1)

You are all talented and accomplished actors and actresses. You have numerous successful credits to your names over the course of your career. We all cherish and appreciate your body of work.

With regards to the situation concerning your co-star, I can understand if you feel some sort of level of affinity or beholden obligation towards Ms. Barr because you feel she may be partly responsible for your level of success today. Or perhaps you think of Ms. Barr like one might think of their elderly grandparent who holds arcane, bigoted views but nonetheless is still a member of the family to whom you've grown emotionally attached.

However, it's not actually like that. Own up to your talent. You built you, not Roseanne. And she's not your loveable but backwards grandmother.

You own her nothing.

I'm saying it's time to cut the ties with this vile woman. There will be plenty of future acting work that can be offered to you on your acting merits alone. The longer you associate with Ms. Barr, the further you risk her bringing you down with her into the mud.

So brush your feet off and be done with her.

What would be losing, anyways, but a sitcom that should have never been revived in the first place.

ON EDIT:

Looks like you are now free to go about your lives once again.

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An open message to John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf and Sara Gilbert: (Original Post) Tommy_Carcetti May 2018 OP
And you are acting with children- dawg day May 2018 #1
Especially since one of her TV grandchildren is African American. n/t demmiblue May 2018 #5
How they can be in the same studio as her is more than I could do. Wwcd May 2018 #2
The depth of talent on that show, not just in front of the camera but behind, producers, writers Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #3
Your post is Wellstone ruled May 2018 #6
I agree. mountain grammy May 2018 #11
Sara Gilbert, played Darlene Conner, called ABC to quit BigmanPigman May 2018 #33
I think John Goodman was saved from having to make a decision. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #34
Excellent EffieBlack May 2018 #4
I agree, but Hayduke Bomgarte May 2018 #7
Also Sarah Chalke and Johnny Galecki RockRaven May 2018 #8
A suggestion Cartoonist May 2018 #9
Rosanne killed off Dan once... askyagerz May 2018 #10
Perfect! mountain grammy May 2018 #12
And it would fit right in with the first episode! Brilliant! Initech May 2018 #25
Yeah Rosanne's mouth is really getting in the way askyagerz May 2018 #31
100% agreement!!! Puzzler May 2018 #13
They make way too much money. joshcryer May 2018 #14
No excuse duforsure May 2018 #15
The other actors will have permanently tainted their careers if they don't revolt. Vinca May 2018 #16
She has tweeted stuff like this for years oberliner May 2018 #18
The most shocking thing about today's tweets... Kotya May 2018 #21
I know, but she's now under ABC's roof and they should fire her ass. Vinca May 2018 #23
And they acted quite swiftly in doing so oberliner May 2018 #36
The worst part is that she isn't even funny... world wide wally May 2018 #17
Sara Gilbert's response: demmiblue May 2018 #19
damage control - no intent to quit lame54 May 2018 #37
"One cast member" -- she's the only reason for the reboot More_Cowbell May 2018 #38
She and other actors do not get a pass, they sold their soul for 30 pieces of silver RestoreAmerica2020 May 2018 #39
Rightwingers must really be conflicted Martin Eden May 2018 #20
Also, perhaps an open letter to the NBA is in order drbtg1 May 2018 #22
This post! Va Lefty May 2018 #24
Thank you, greatly appreciated. drbtg1 May 2018 #27
Oh, nevermind drbtg1 May 2018 #28
Well, she went and got her show cancelled True Dough May 2018 #26
Roseanne's ignorance cost a lot of people their jobs C_U_L8R May 2018 #29
They should replace Roseanne with Rosie O'Donnell True Dough May 2018 #30
I loved the original Roseanne show about a struggling, average family. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #32
Roseanne CANCLED masmdu May 2018 #35
Was there something that led to this advice? RandomAccess May 2018 #40
Totally Disagree flying-skeleton May 2018 #41

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
1. And you are acting with children-
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:09 PM
May 2018

...and it is wrong to force them to be exposed to racism in order to keep their jobs.

Maybe you all can just shrug off your racist colleague, but children should not be expected to just ignore their boss like you can. After all, if she's saying racist things in public, what do you think she's saying to the children in private?

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
3. The depth of talent on that show, not just in front of the camera but behind, producers, writers
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:11 PM
May 2018

WOW it is an ALL STAR show.

Yet, given the leader and primary owner of the show, it MUST go.

And all those people will be harmed now by losing their jobs. But in this case I dont see any other way.

ABC will NEVER cancel it though, money is much more important than morals. But if it was cancelled, Roseanne's claim to fame now will be she went out of her way to destroy all those jobs.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Your post is
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

spot on. ABC seems to subtly promote a white privilege agenda. Some what fimiliar with the Disney operations through a family member who was a cast member and also a production manager.

mountain grammy

(26,619 posts)
11. I agree.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:10 PM
May 2018

ABC has done some excellent programming.. their "American Crime" series was one of the best tv viewing I've seen in a while, but of course it was canceled after three seasons.. no money in truth and reality.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
33. Sara Gilbert, played Darlene Conner, called ABC to quit
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:52 PM
May 2018

and found out she didn't have to, the show was just canceled. I bet the others on the cast and staff are relieved.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
34. I think John Goodman was saved from having to make a decision.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:57 PM
May 2018

I like John and know he is a decent guy from people I know, but he also a. wants a job like that where you make TONS of money and b. has a loyalty to her due to his success from that show.

Hayduke Bomgarte

(1,965 posts)
7. I agree, but
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:38 PM
May 2018

I have to wonder if they signed contracts, that they are now bound to, before they realized what a shitshow Barr would make it into.

Cartoonist

(7,316 posts)
9. A suggestion
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:45 PM
May 2018

I don't watch that show but I feel for the others.

How about they just fire Rosanne and replace her? You could hire Rosie O'Donnell and you wouldn't even need to change the title.

askyagerz

(776 posts)
10. Rosanne killed off Dan once...
Tue May 29, 2018, 12:55 PM
May 2018

Maybe its time to return the favor lol. I really dont think she is bringing anything to the new show anyway. Let her character die of lack of insurance...

askyagerz

(776 posts)
31. Yeah Rosanne's mouth is really getting in the way
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:10 PM
May 2018

Of what could be a really good show. They are still pushing progressive issues and opening up some dialogue fgfor the general public just like the kiss episonde back in the day. I will never understand how rosanne can be a blatent racist and then put out a progressive show. It might just be shock publicity gone awry but its getting real old and isnt really needed if the show can stand on its own.

joshcryer

(62,269 posts)
14. They make way too much money.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

The show is the top show, beating out Big Bang Theory.

This is Hollywood.

edit: holy shit you did it!

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
16. The other actors will have permanently tainted their careers if they don't revolt.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:35 PM
May 2018

I'd have my lawyers check the contract with a fine tooth comb if I were any of them.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
18. She has tweeted stuff like this for years
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:40 PM
May 2018

It's not even close to some of the most vile, racist, nastiest tweets of hers.

Vinca

(50,261 posts)
23. I know, but she's now under ABC's roof and they should fire her ass.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:46 PM
May 2018

She's a vile human being who should never have been hired in the first place, but they're stuck with her now. Either ABC is a racist network or its not. Their decision. There must be a clause in Roseanne's contract that would give ABC a way to separate the network from the bigot.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
17. The worst part is that she isn't even funny...
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:39 PM
May 2018

Unless your idea of fun is just drinking beer at the trailer park and laughing at kids who fall off their bicycles.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
38. "One cast member" -- she's the only reason for the reboot
Tue May 29, 2018, 03:09 PM
May 2018

Roseanne and her vile opinions are the only reason the show came back on at all. So although I feel sorry for the crew, no one who's getting a paycheck as a cast member should be saying this.

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,435 posts)
39. She and other actors do not get a pass, they sold their soul for 30 pieces of silver
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:08 PM
May 2018

They stood wth a known racist, bigot, Barr and trumpf for what? A damn idiotic sit-com/television show that appealed to the worst of us.

A recent interview on PBS with civil rights activist Harry Belafonte was to say the least disheartening, in that, in order for things to change Caucasian--Americans, will have to reject, rid hate once and for all. I just don't see that happening in this hateful, hurtful environment where people of color are being verbally and physically assaulted daily--in some cases murdered in cold blood by police whose job is to protect them; that is not the case, now is it? Hate speech is not free speech. We have allowed trump, republikkklans to use "political correctness" against America when it's ust about being kind, decent, respectful to one another. Here is an excerpt of interview...


Apr 06, 2018 06:20 PM EDT
By — PBS NewsHour/transcript-Charlayne Hunter-Gault]

Harry Belafonte: To realize Martin Luther King Jr.’s dream, white America needs to change course
Nation

Charlayne Hunter-Gault sat down with one of King's closest friends, artist and activist Harry Belafonte, in his home.....So, what do you think it will take today to make his dream of the beloved community a reality?

Harry Belafonte: Until white America begins or even decides to identify a moral course of history, I don't think anything is going to happen. I think America will self-destruct.

Charlayne Hunter-Gault: But the civil rights movement was black and white together.

Harry Belafonte: Yes.

Charlayne Hunter-Gault: That's not the case anymore?

Harry Belafonte: That's the case, but it's not the fact.

The case is that we have to fix it. The fact is that it's not fixable if white folks don't decide to change their course of conduct.

The only thing left for black people to do is to burn it down. We have been lynched. We have been murdered.

And, if you look around, never before in my 91 years of history as an American have I ever seen the nation more racially divisive than it is at this very moment, including the days of the Ku Klux Klan and the segregation laws of the South.







Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
20. Rightwingers must really be conflicted
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

They get a kick out of barr's racist insluts, but they're turned off by the way she sang the national anthem (but at least she was standing at the time).

drbtg1

(1,054 posts)
22. Also, perhaps an open letter to the NBA is in order
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:45 PM
May 2018

"Your marquis event, the NBA finals, is about to be broadcast on the same television network that makes money from a known racist. You did the right thing with Donald Sterling, how about now?"

drbtg1

(1,054 posts)
27. Thank you, greatly appreciated.
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:58 PM
May 2018

I know ESPN (who produces for ABC) goes out of their way to be apolitical, but I could still see a player or coach during a sideline interview, telling Doris Burke or Steven A. Smith, "What the hell is up with this network?!?"

True Dough

(17,302 posts)
26. Well, she went and got her show cancelled
Tue May 29, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018

Too bad for the other cast members, but she doesn't deserve to be a TV star.

C_U_L8R

(44,998 posts)
29. Roseanne's ignorance cost a lot of people their jobs
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

and ABC/ Disney did the absolute right thing... they had no choice.



True Dough

(17,302 posts)
30. They should replace Roseanne with Rosie O'Donnell
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:02 PM
May 2018

Although Rosie has gone off on Twitter too. So maybe not.

keithbvadu2

(36,775 posts)
32. I loved the original Roseanne show about a struggling, average family.
Tue May 29, 2018, 02:33 PM
May 2018

I loved the original Roseanne show about a struggling, average family.
Until they won the huge lottery. Then it got stupid.

Missed the new show and figured to catch it on rerun.
Not going to bother now.

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
40. Was there something that led to this advice?
Tue May 29, 2018, 05:47 PM
May 2018

I rather doubt it, but -- it really seems out of place and presumptuous UNLESS there was something specific that precipitated it.

flying-skeleton

(696 posts)
41. Totally Disagree
Wed May 30, 2018, 02:40 AM
May 2018

They all made their decision to work together with a certified racist. They did it at their own risk. They made their own beds. Now they get to lie in em while on the unemployed roll. #KARMA

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