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(37,748 posts)Damn. That was fast!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)a kennedy
(29,661 posts)lapfog_1
(29,204 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)spew on air to begin with. Pure garbage.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Representing the liberal side as wacky, shouting, out of control, while Trumper Roseanne sits there calmly responding logically. Totally opposite of the real world, but intentional propaganda.
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)Just the beginning. Shes an oaf.
RockRaven
(14,966 posts)And drink in the sweet, sweet bigot tears.
rpannier
(24,329 posts)O' Reilly already came out and said they had to fire her, as did James Murdoch
There will be some, but it will likely gather less steam then it otherwise would have because some in the Conservo-Nut-O-Sphere are backing ABC on this
Though with Shill O' Liellly, I still think he's trying to get back on TV
The Blue Flower
(5,442 posts)Never give up, never surrender!
saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)Response to The Blue Flower (Reply #6)
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Zoonart
(11,866 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Good.
riversedge
(70,218 posts)yonder
(9,666 posts)but no, there it was plain as day.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They don't get a pat on the back now.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)This goes back years and years. They had better properties to try and make some kind of revival with than this.
LiberalArkie
(15,715 posts)to hang themselves.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You give your enemies enough to hand themselves. The concept does not logically pertain to this situation.
ABC did not take this action in order to eventually do harm to a racist bigot.
cab67
(2,993 posts)This is going to cost ABC a lot of money. Most of the cast members were little-known when the first iteration of the show came out, but many of them are big-name now and would have commanded serious compensation. There won't be any return from syndication, and a lot of advertising dollars have disappeared.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)saidsimplesimon
(7,888 posts)sweet is that?
Vinca
(50,271 posts)I actually double checked for another source and it appears this is so. Buh-bye and good riddance Roseanne.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)The show had better ratings than Big Bang Theory.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Roseanne made her statement and ABC made theirs.
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Yikes.
imanamerican63
(13,793 posts)They are standing up to the vitriol hatred that we see in America!
samnsara
(17,622 posts)Initech
(100,075 posts)ooky
(8,922 posts)garybeck
(9,942 posts)n/t
procon
(15,805 posts)hit them financially as well as bring down the wrath of the craziest rightwing fans, and probably provoke Trump into another twitter rage against ABC/Disney.
They started this mess it's only fitting that they clean it up.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Xolodno
(6,395 posts)Note to self, don't piss him off.
Progressive2020
(713 posts)I thought this was a joke at first. I am amazed at ABC and their backbone. I am pretty sure that the Roseanne show was making money for them. For ABC to put principles before profits is admirable.
llmart
(15,539 posts)I'm sure, because of past boycotts, etc., ABC knew that this was going to be a big zero and millions of people would boycott their sponsors. It wasn't done out of any noble reasons.
Having said that, I still give them kudos for doing it so quickly.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)She is a racist and a white supremacist.
Were going to spend a generation dealing with racists who supported Trump.
PearliePoo2
(7,768 posts)BLOTUS and his racist deplorables lost BIG today!
janterry
(4,429 posts)It had to happen,
but they didn't deserve this.
ETA: and the crew. They are all out of work, now, too.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)So they'll largely land fine - unless the stink of all of this rubs off on them in a big way.
It's the crew side where it really hits the most.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)ABC probably cancelled because if each actor started dropping out one by one because of the morality clause, they would have to pay big bucks (remember, they had renewed it already for a Season 2).
ABC lost a shitload of money on this venture.
Freddie
(9,265 posts)(IMO) is bring back the show with all the actors and characters except Roseanne has died. Eventually Dan will remarry to a flaming liberal.
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Piss on her grave.
janterry
(4,429 posts)or something since she developed the show/characters in the first place?
(but other than that, I agree
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)and replace Roseanne with Rosie O'Donnell playing Roseanne Conner, ala the two Becky's or the two Darrin's on Bewitched.
Having someone else play her role would really screw her head over.
Hekate
(90,686 posts)...have a wake and remember the good times and the bad, and get on with their TV lives.
Dan can remain a widower, and the family can continue to squabble and pull together. They don't need a flaming liberal in the lead role, really. I think John Goodman could carry this show.
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)calimary
(81,265 posts)Last edited Tue May 29, 2018, 02:39 PM - Edit history (1)
I was afraid they wouldn't. Glad to hear the good news. Edit: Justs saw Catwoman's thread. I'd forgotten ABC had a new president, Channing Dungey.
Floyd R. Turbo
(26,546 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)John Fante
(3,479 posts)I love it. Trumpism will NOT BE NORMALIZED!
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)... (and I have no reason to believe its not other than it is a little out of character and very swift), it explains her apology. Im sure she got word that ABC was considering this and she rushed out an apology to try and save her ass. Otherwise I doubt she would have backed up at all.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)Shes been awful for ages, but this latest tweet was so disgusting there was no way ABC could or should keep her.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)65,999,999 to go
lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)Too bad for all the other cast and crew that depended on the show for a paycheck.
But they should have expected this from just being associated with a hateful nutjob.
cungar2000
(98 posts)Before the second season is over.
Moostache
(9,895 posts)We need to be rid of this stain before it sets permanently.
Croney
(4,660 posts)Faux News will spin off a sit-com branch, and Drumpf will have cameo appearances every week.
The other actors are respected people who can get good roles.they will not work with her.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)n/t
Bucky
(54,013 posts)or, I dunno, Ted McGinley. He's pretty good at that sort of thing.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Rosie O'Donnell?
Bucky
(54,013 posts)This is what he does, dammit!
https://www.metv.com/stories/in-defense-of-ted-mcginley-televisions-supposed-show-killer
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)replacing Roseanne with another actress playing the same role would not only be good for the show, but would make Roseanne's head assplode.
demmiblue
(36,851 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)underpants
(182,803 posts)Hugin
(33,143 posts)radical noodle
(8,000 posts)heads are exploding on facebook. LOL! All the racists loved Roseanne.
amb123
(1,581 posts)george wallace & donald trump adopted a baby from jews for jesus=rb
See how YOU like it, Roseanne. It's so easy to hate.
Exotica
(1,461 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)Good
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)l bet ABC had a secret agreement with Barr that required her to keep her racist piehole shut but like every true deplorable Trumpsucker, she just couldn't keep the vile hate inside for long.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)global1
(25,247 posts)Trump -- soon to be cancelled.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)are held to higher standards than presidents.
Raster
(20,998 posts)bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)~70% of the American public don't support the behavior of the current Resident. The problem is that enough GOP members of Congress are beholden to donors that don't care as long as they got theirs.
One thing that many people miss is that IQ is rated on a relative scale with 100 being the average. A fairly high portion of the 30% that claim to support Trump have a Lake Woebegone notion that they are all above average.
KPN
(15,645 posts)uponit7771
(90,339 posts)world wide wally
(21,743 posts)sunonmars
(8,656 posts)kimbutgar
(21,148 posts)The ratings were probably not that great after her premiere. I used to watch her old series. Out of curiosity I watched the first one and never went back.
Im glad she got pushed back on her racist butt! Now she will become even more radioactive.
sunonmars
(8,656 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)the air with a syndicated show, although I believe it airs at 4:30 A.M. on Sundays in the market where I live!
Bucky
(54,013 posts)She apologized, she was honest about her ugly language in the past, and she had an established track record for inclusive hiring.
The point isn't to eternally punish everyone who's ever done or said something wrong in the past. The need is to heal the causes and effects of our history of racism and do better in the future. As Jimmy Carter said:
"She was maybe excessively honest in saying that she had in the past, 30 years ago, used this terrible word," Carter told CNN's Suzanne Malveaux in an interview Friday. "I think she has been punished, perhaps overly severely, for her honesty in admitting it and for the use of the word in the distant past. She's apologized profusely."
We have to live in world where redemption is possible, or hope for healing and repairing past damages is going to be impossible.
yonder
(9,666 posts)I am glad however, to see that sitcom cancelled.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)LostOne4Ever
(9,288 posts)hexola
(4,835 posts)I know it got attention the first few episodes - but was it really a hit?
She might have known it was over and went out in a blaze of glory and put ABC on the spot...
rpannier
(24,329 posts)I doubt it was in danger of being cancelled
Until she jumped on her twit account
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)Thank you Wanda Sykes and everyone who took a strong stand!!!
-Puzzler
B2G
(9,766 posts)FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Good size drop off.
Can't believe abc acted this fast. ABC caught a lot of grief after canceling of. " The Chew" last week for no reason.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)It never recovered from it.
FloridaBlues
(4,008 posts)Never watched Roseann show just couldn't do it.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)I watched it back in the old days when I was younger but I knew better with the revival. Better things to do with my time.
The Chew I caught pieces of here and there mostly because my mother watched it in the afternoon as the quick pace and all kept her pretty engaged.
Raine
(30,540 posts)it's on at noon on ABC.
Gothmog
(145,231 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I've been busy so haven't been paying attention to things. I'm glad they got rid of her, I just feel bad that her co-workers have to suffer for her racism.
BTW, does she really believe those things above? If so, there is no hope for her.
murielm99
(30,740 posts)j3161usa
(44 posts)This is what washed-up movie stars and entertainers do to stay in the media. They say and do outrageous crap to get attention. This reboot was going off the air anyway due to low ratings. Rosanne is looking for a spot on foxnews. Remember Dennis Miller who went from comedian, then after his career tanked he went to sports, then when that failed, he jumped on the conservative BS and found a home on foxnews and conservative talk radio. Some go into porn, others go to foxnews.
Bucky
(54,013 posts)But in this timeline, the one in which white racists have been using the word "ape" as a racist slur against people of African dissent for the last 3 centuries, the use of the word "ape" as a slur against an African American woman is categorically racist.
NB: if you've arrived in our current timeline via a time-travel machine, may I borrow it? I have couple of things I'd like to fix and I promise I'll have it back to you by yesterday.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There is an alternate me who dropped me off in this reality, and is probably running around my original reality causing havoc of all kinds. We need to kidnap him and bring him back here, so that I can return to my timeline.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)3catwoman3
(23,985 posts)...on many of their Word of the Day selections.
PunkinPi
(4,875 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,139 posts)Your stay here is looking like it might be a brief one!
marble falls
(57,083 posts)Duppers
(28,120 posts)Bye.
calimary
(81,265 posts)Maybe some outfit with a twisted worldview like that of Pox Noise will offer her a haven at some point. I can't think of anywhere else where her brand would be welcome at this point. Her career is in the deep freeze, at least for awhile. If she had left it at the initial apology tweet and not followed it up with lame comments and trying to blame Ambien, it might have helped a little. But I saw quite a difference between the apology tweet and her later comments. The first almost seemed like someone else had written it for her, compared to subsequent samples.
Somebody on the air pointed out yesterday that Mel Gibson came back. And people can have short memories.
But if it talks like a duck, and tweets like a duck, issues targeted put-downs like a duck, and otherwise behaves like a duck - it's probably a duck.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)such nonsense.
I'll return to kick the thread when he does it!
C Moon
(12,213 posts)Now hopefully the other station airing her reruns will follow this lead.
KPN
(15,645 posts)if the other cast members don't quit. Hopefully, they would do that.
HenryWallace
(332 posts)FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)I don't know if Wanda Sykes had a hand in getting Roseanne cancelled or not, but she quit the show as soon as she saw Roseanne Barr's ridiculous hateful tweet. She quit on the spot, announced she wasn't returning to the show.
So one day later the show is cancelled. Good on you Wanda, and awesome of ABC!
tenderfoot
(8,432 posts)TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Everyone at DU seems pleased about this.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)I would self delete if I were you.
Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Bucky
(54,013 posts)We can't compromise our standards
Moral Compass
(1,521 posts)ABC is owned by Disney.
They really had no choice and they couldnt afford to hesitate.
Action this quick removes any potential that customers/viewers perceive any linkage between Barr and the network.
The show itself was not, from what I understand, was not that incendiary. The garbage that had been spewing from her mouth was.
I think that, in some ways, it is better that Trump has lured all of the enthusiastic racists out into the light.
Remember all that nonsense the MSM was pushing during the 1st Obama inauguration that the election of Obama meant that the US was moving into a post-racial era?
Seems like a million years ago now doesnt it?
The racists are letting their hate flags fly these days. Their problem is that, while Trump may be encouraging and nurturing their vileness, the rest of the world including their employers dont want racism associated with their brand.
TheRealNorth
(9,481 posts)My only explanation for her to launch this tirade out of nowhere and not thinking the things she said would not come back to bite her in the ass.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's the scary thing.
matt819
(10,749 posts)Wouldn't it be great if police departments responded the same way when their officers brutalize people? To wit,
The officers' behavior is abhorrent, repugnant, and inconsistent with the values and training of this department, and we have decided to terminate their employment and explore with the prosecutor the possibility of bringing charges against these officers.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)But I cant help but feel for all the rank and file cast and crew who are finding out right now that theyre out of a paycheck because Ms Racist Conspiracy Theory was drunk tweeting her brains out.
Making a living is hard enough in Hollywood without having your job taken away from you without a new one lined up.
Of course, those with money are going to be alright. But the lighting and makeup people, the gaffers and construction crew, all the people behind the scenes, Rosanne, the producers who pitched this gawd awful mess in the first place and the ABC execs who greenlit it, have all fucked these people, who werent even strangers, in the ass.
And John Goodman should tell Roseanne to her overly Botoxed face why thats a problem.
Hekate
(90,686 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,857 posts)I only ever watched the original series once or twice and didn't care for it. What little I know about Roseanne Barr I do not like. I had no intention of watching the reboot and was disgusted by what little I'd learned about it.
And yes, lots of other entities ought to be equally fast to shit-can racist, misogynist, etc. assholes.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)I can't stand her but I really like John Goodman.
What the hell was she thinking?
klook
(12,155 posts)PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)Oops, totally missed the reincarnation. Goodbye and good riddance Roseanne.
meadowlark5
(2,795 posts)Gaa! Her Twitter page is like a racist, conspiracy filled, paranoid hateful cess pool.
muntrv
(14,505 posts)dameatball
(7,398 posts)wryter2000
(46,045 posts)Never should have been on to begin with.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,141 posts)Sometimes they whirr like a fan and flatten your racist, sloppy ass in a New York minute.
Ahhh, exceedingly fine.
helpisontheway
(5,008 posts)msdogi
(430 posts)Now can Congress please cancel the orange shitshow in our White House?
Loge23
(3,922 posts)While we're celebrating the end of one racist ignoramus, may I caution some on this thread on the use of "flaming liberal"?
What does that mean anyway?
Flaming? As in gay? Isn't that a derogatory phrase?
Liberal? As in what?
Do we call conservatives flaming?
Aren't we contributing to demonizing the word liberal by using the phrase as a verbal caricature?
I'm not trying to be PC here, but I can't see the phrase "flaming liberal" in any positive light, especially on these pages.
Proud Liberal, currently not aflame.
LudwigPastorius
(9,141 posts)3 :intense, passionate flaming youth
2 a : marked by generosity : openhanded a liberal giver
5 : broad-minded; especially : not bound by authoritarianism, orthodoxy, or traditional forms
6 a : of, favoring, or based upon the principles of liberalism
b capitalized : of or constituting a political party advocating or associated with the principles of political liberalism; especially : of or constituting a political party...associated with ideals of individual especially economic freedom, greater individual participation in government, and constitutional, political, and administrative reforms designed to secure these objectives
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)The others I don't know?
area51
(11,909 posts)such a "classy lady" would make a tweet like that?
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)her tweets are very extreme, this should end her career unless she turns into ann coulter. Either way, karma wont be nice to her.
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Azathoth
(4,608 posts)Maybe this will serve as a wakeup call to businesses that the potential profits that can be milked from MAGA-ites aren't worth the unhinged insanity they will have to get in bed with.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)relaized that in order to sell it's marvel and Star Wars movies, they needed to keep Rosie out of the picture.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)Now for page 2.......
Warren_Pointe
(328 posts)She'll make an excellent addition to their sheet squad. She'll even bring her own burning cross.
blue-wave
(4,353 posts)Someone else commented she is an oaf. Times that by 1,000. She also seriously needs to seek mental help.
AdamGG
(1,291 posts)Or her career might have tanked right at the start.
flibbitygiblets
(7,220 posts)I am *NOT* defending her racist ass; I never watched her shitty show before or now either; her loud-mouth schtick always hit my ears like fingernails on a chalkboard.
But, I heard Bill Mahr say she used to be a decent human being, so wondering what changed? Maybe if she got some help, she could redeem herself and even help others? Or did the fame and money just cause her inner asshole to shine through?
LudwigPastorius
(9,141 posts)I tend to believe it because of just how all-over-the-map her attacks have been. (She once called Israel a "Nazi state", but later referred to Palestinians as nazis. After the Trayvon Martin murder, she tweeted the address of George Zimmerman's parents saying the if he wasn't arrested she might go over and arrest him herself. Now she tweets disgusting racists comments.)
Maybe this will be a wake up call for her to get the psychiatric help she obviously needs.
Cha
(297,221 posts)Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Response to PunkinPi (Original post)
chwaliszewski This message was self-deleted by its author.
malthaussen
(17,195 posts)The production staff for a TV show is a pretty big group. Yeah, the star was an abomination unto God, but it is a shame she has to take so many people down with her.
-- Mal
forgotmylogin
(7,528 posts)Roseanne has just singlehandedly wiped out a lot of jobs and a lot of residual money for a lot of people. Hopefully, this will be the finale of her Primetime career in Hollywood.