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PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:09 AM May 2018

Well this sounds interesting! Avenatti's latest Tweet:

"I know for a fact that at least one, & likely many, of the #TrumpTapes contain Mr. Trump’s voice. I know this from the work that we have done and through the assistance of true patriots. If I am wrong, Mr. Cohen and his atty should prove it. They can’t and won’t"

https://mobile.twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti?p=s

I've heard him say that his office is swamped with tips and information from people who want to share and give him leads. So here, in his tweet, he's acknowledging that "patriots" are "assisting". This is terrific news.
It appears to me that someone, somehow got these tapes to him. So now we can speculate whether there's incriminating evidence on them or not.

Interesting, history-making (also frightening ) times we're living in folks!

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Well this sounds interesting! Avenatti's latest Tweet: (Original Post) PearliePoo2 May 2018 OP
I'll say for one thing, he is a tough foe and can match Iliyah May 2018 #1
Yes, he's tough and courageous too. So is Stormy. PearliePoo2 May 2018 #3
He is a great fighter manor321 May 2018 #2
Avenatti 'around' a lot empedocles May 2018 #4
Now I wonder how he knows that? RandomAccess May 2018 #5
Someone in the Cohen or Trump camp perhaps? PearliePoo2 May 2018 #6
IDK RandomAccess May 2018 #7
Second best, the best Uncle Joe May 2018 #8
Ouch RandomAccess May 2018 #9
Avenatti said a reporter called him and said, "Listen to this"! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #24
Oh, I hadn't heard that RandomAccess May 2018 #25
Seeing what Avenatti has discovered, can you imagine Mueller's treasure trove of evidence of treason Pepsidog May 2018 #10
Don't forget about the burner phones that the FBI seized in the Cohen raid FakeNoose May 2018 #12
Love photo. That there has been no leaks from Mueller tells me that they have some incredibly Pepsidog May 2018 #13
Or Cohen saved the conversations for a different reason. Delmette2.0 May 2018 #15
Interesting angle. A snake protecting itself against a scorpion. erronis May 2018 #16
Exactly that! Mopar151 May 2018 #20
I heard the burner phones were old Blackberries that belonged to Cohen's wife. PearliePoo2 May 2018 #23
They could have been discussing the Mets or women or anything Roland99 May 2018 #11
I wish I'd had Avenatti for my divorce lawyer Bayard May 2018 #14
Sounds like a very smart guy this Avenantti LittleGirl May 2018 #17
re: "If I am wrong, Mr. Cohen and his atty should prove it. They can't and won't" thesquanderer May 2018 #18
It's not distraction, it's pressure. shanny May 2018 #27
I'm a bit skeptical of the significance of all this onenote May 2018 #19
I'm a bit skeptical too. I've been on DU since we all had our hopes on "Fitzmas"! lol PearliePoo2 May 2018 #21
Here's a video of Avenatti on MSNBC with Ari Melber saying, "I know for a fact". PearliePoo2 May 2018 #22
Cohen is spending 10 hour days in his office huddled with his lawyers! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #26

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
1. I'll say for one thing, he is a tough foe and can match
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:12 AM
May 2018

any crazy bullshit that t-rump and cronies can dish out . . .

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
3. Yes, he's tough and courageous too. So is Stormy.
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:33 AM
May 2018

He said the threats that he and Stormy get are beyond belief and he takes them VERY seriously.

He also said that there are two very believable women (that he's thoroughly vetted) that had sex and similar contracts with trump that have contacted him. One is scared to death and refuses to come forward and the other is "on the fence".
I can understand that. These are some very dangerous people capable of dangerous things involved with trump.

 

manor321

(3,344 posts)
2. He is a great fighter
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:30 AM
May 2018

It is very interesting that there is at least one Trump tape. Probably means many more and prosecutors will be very interested in them. So am I.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
4. Avenatti 'around' a lot
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:59 AM
May 2018

some here even whine about that. He is appreciated womewhat for enlarging and deepening the 'debate'. Less appreciated is how he takes left pressure to rush the investigation [used by the cons against Mueller] off of Mueller by providing dems with daily raw meat , to alleviate their 'needs', [and offset the daily trump bs deluge hogging the media spotlight]. Also, he provides law based, hard edged, pithy, penetrating, useful remarks, [which help counter soft media commentary like, 'President Trump sometimes pushes on ethical limits, etc. etc.']

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
5. Now I wonder how he knows that?
Thu May 31, 2018, 10:15 AM
May 2018

One would presume it wouldn't be common knowledge, nor that either the court or the principals involved would have told him.

So -- ??

Any ideas?

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
24. Avenatti said a reporter called him and said, "Listen to this"!
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:05 PM
May 2018

So where and how in the hell did the reporter get the tape?

And bless that reporter's heart!

FakeNoose

(32,532 posts)
12. Don't forget about the burner phones that the FBI seized in the Cohen raid
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:17 AM
May 2018

There's probably way more info on those phones, maybe even saved messages etc. I'm sure that Cohen took no care to delete messages because he probably thought they'd never get the phones.

I've no idea if the tapes Avenatti is talking about are related to the cellphones, so I guess we have to wait and see.


Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
13. Love photo. That there has been no leaks from Mueller tells me that they have some incredibly
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:28 AM
May 2018

damaging information and all involved know this and it’s consequences. There are the lawyers involved, support staff, grand jurors and court personnel none of who have leaked. To me they all know that this is a moment in American History never seen before that a true traitor who cares nothing for our country occupies The White House. I think the lack of leaks tells us much about the Mueller investigation.

Delmette2.0

(4,156 posts)
15. Or Cohen saved the conversations for a different reason.
Thu May 31, 2018, 11:40 AM
May 2018

Cohen knows what Trump is like, he helped 45 screw people over for years. I think Cohen saved everything he could in case 45 turned against him.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
23. I heard the burner phones were old Blackberries that belonged to Cohen's wife.
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:01 PM
May 2018

But I have no doubt the FBI will get into them!


LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
17. Sounds like a very smart guy this Avenantti
Thu May 31, 2018, 12:07 PM
May 2018

He's got his strategy down pat. I admire people that can take on someone like the rump mob and make them fear for their life.
LOL. Bring it on!

thesquanderer

(11,968 posts)
18. re: "If I am wrong, Mr. Cohen and his atty should prove it. They can't and won't"
Thu May 31, 2018, 12:12 PM
May 2018

They can't prove Trump's voice is not on any tape without releasing every tape. So it's kind of silly to ask for this proof of a negative. It's just PR. {sigh} I hate silly distractions.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
27. It's not distraction, it's pressure.
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:28 PM
May 2018

How often have we seen tRump unable to stfu? And how often has that inability added fuel to Mueller's fire?

onenote

(42,501 posts)
19. I'm a bit skeptical of the significance of all this
Thu May 31, 2018, 12:15 PM
May 2018

This may not be a popular point of view here but:

First, it is hardly surprising that the search of Cohen's office would result in the seizure of recordings of phone conversations (or voicemail messages) from Trump. Trump and Cohen have had a long relationship and it would be far more surprising if there weren't recorded conversations. Many people now have voicemail technology that converts the message to a voice file and sends it to an email address; it wouldn't be surprising if Cohen had such a set up and had emails with voicemail messages on his computers. What matters is the substance of those messages/conversations.

Second, Avenatti hasn't said much about the substance of those conversations. It could be that he's holding back. It also could be that he doesn't know. And a third possibility is that he knows and the substance isn't particularly revealing of anything sinister.

Third, I have my doubts as to Avenatti's claims that he's getting a lot of information from "patriots" -- the number of folks with specific information about what was seized from Cohen's office is limited and I don't think they'd have much interest in taking the risk of communicating with Avenatti.

Eventually we will know. For the time being, I'm less excited by what Avenatti is dishing out than others seem to be.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
21. I'm a bit skeptical too. I've been on DU since we all had our hopes on "Fitzmas"! lol
Thu May 31, 2018, 12:46 PM
May 2018

All good points you made!

But whatever's going on with Avenatti and what he has or doesn't have, he's doing the best freakin' head-fake on BLOTUS that ANYONE ever has! It's masterful!

And for that, Mr. Avenatti gets a tip of my hat and I'd LOVE to get the chance to buy this man a beer!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
22. Here's a video of Avenatti on MSNBC with Ari Melber saying, "I know for a fact".
Thu May 31, 2018, 01:29 PM
May 2018

It's hard not to get just a wee bit hopeful after watching this!

https://www.msnbc.com/the-beat-with-ari-melber/watch/avenatti-i-know-for-a-fact-cohen-has-a-tape-of-trump-1244978243644?cid=sm_npd_ms_tw_ma

Pretty compelling interview. Man, this guy is as cool as a cucumber!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
26. Cohen is spending 10 hour days in his office huddled with his lawyers!
Thu May 31, 2018, 09:13 PM
May 2018

Meanwhile, the FBI is piecing together all the material they collected from his shredder bin! hahahaha

He's barely sleeping and not eating. He and his wife have each lost over 20 pounds and counting.

This thug is going down and BLOTUS is sweating and dangling pardons.



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