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kpete

(72,041 posts)
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:16 PM May 2018

Sally Fields response to Ivanka/Bee

Actress Sally Field has the perfect response to the controversy over Sam Bee calling Ivanka a ‘c*nt’


Actress Sally Field weighed in on the controversy surrounding Sam Bee’s “c*nt” insult towards Ivanka Trump by taking it a step further.

“I like Samantha Bee a lot, but she is flat wrong to call Ivanka a c*nt,” the actress wrote. “C*nts are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest.”



https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/actress-sally-field-perfect-response-controversy-sam-bee-calling-ivanka-cnt/

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Sally Fields response to Ivanka/Bee (Original Post) kpete May 2018 OP
I can get behind that. MontanaMama May 2018 #1
THAT is the answer. I LOVE IT Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #2
I love Sally Fields Gothmog May 2018 #3
I like her! Marty Marzipan May 2018 #26
I see what you did there - LOL TexasBushwhacker May 2018 #37
Field, not Fields. Can we at least get her name right? Tipperary Jun 2018 #40
Umm... HopeAgain May 2018 #4
+1 RandomAccess May 2018 #7
That's what she meant. In other words, she was going the "reclaiming" route. moriah May 2018 #11
British guys use it all of the time MountCleaners May 2018 #15
Good response. Ty Pepsidog May 2018 #24
Mysogynstic men think treating men as they do women is the greatest insult. Marcuse May 2018 #34
Here's Australian politicians using it IronLionZion May 2018 #36
Yes I find it very offensive. Let's start calling them plain ol assholes. flying_wahini May 2018 #33
Agree Raine May 2018 #35
It was used in context. SF is not condoning it, she's putting it to bed. Lil Missy Jun 2018 #54
Oh. my....... a kennedy May 2018 #5
Funny Stuff ProfessorGAC May 2018 #6
When you think you have seen every possible turn...... Stuart G May 2018 #8
sally deflates the issue. juxtaposed May 2018 #9
People are calling for Bee's show Scarsdale May 2018 #32
Gotta love ms fields Fullduplexxx May 2018 #10
Such a perfect response JI7 May 2018 #12
Sally Field is my personal hero today! Heartstrings May 2018 #13
Field. Tipperary Jun 2018 #41
Because it isn't the point. Control-Z Jun 2018 #43
So it is ok if someone spells your name wrong? Tipperary Jun 2018 #46
There! Edited for du correctness.... Heartstrings Jun 2018 #49
We are all really sorry Tipperarys FSogol Jun 2018 #52
I can't seem to get outraged about a typo or honest error. olegramps Jun 2018 #56
Well done, Sally Field! mnhtnbb May 2018 #14
It was just locker room talk. Quixote1818 May 2018 #16
Speaking of which... Louis1895 May 2018 #17
Not really a fan of that word, but also never heard it used quite like that. TNNurse May 2018 #18
This will be no doubt a minority opinion, BUT .... marble falls May 2018 #19
This is certainly K&R worthy! LonePirate May 2018 #20
Ask Ivanka what she thinks of Daddy calling her a 'piece of ass'. keithbvadu2 May 2018 #21
Eeeeeeeuuwww SunSeeker Jun 2018 #45
Repub family values. Friendship hug for wife. Sexually intimate hug for daughter. keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #50
What do you expect from a damn degenerate. olegramps Jun 2018 #57
"You like me! You really like me!" kag May 2018 #22
Faux Outrage By Trump Pretty Amazing, Considering ... DoctorJoJo May 2018 #23
Many words are made "bad", not by their definition, panader0 May 2018 #25
Once again Ms. Field sucinctly assesses the situation. I like this as much as when she reminded us mulsh May 2018 #27
Brava, Sally. Brava!!! (nt) ehrnst May 2018 #28
Isn't calling a woman a cu*t jb5150 May 2018 #29
Not at all, ironically! forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #44
And Ivanka has neither the warmth nor the depth EOM The Mouth May 2018 #30
A Flying nun said that? rurallib May 2018 #31
Tina Fey: Bitched get things done! SNL from 2008 question everything May 2018 #38
Sally Field nailed it! burrowowl May 2018 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author forgotmylogin Jun 2018 #42
Totally agree Labiglabocce Jun 2018 #47
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2018 #48
You're right Sally... Biggles53 Jun 2018 #51
Perfect response to Trump and his defenders. kcr Jun 2018 #53
From Joss Whedon Gothmog Jun 2018 #55
YES!!!!!!!!!! niyad Jun 2018 #58
Sally Fields rocks! UpInArms Jun 2018 #59
If a word is wrong to use, it's wrong to use. The Mouth Jun 2018 #60

Eliot Rosewater

(31,134 posts)
2. THAT is the answer. I LOVE IT
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:19 PM
May 2018

Coming from a fantastic woman who you can be certain was called that name many times by men in Hollywood and elsewhere.

But she is stronger than they are, outlasted those pricks.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
4. Umm...
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:22 PM
May 2018

No. The word is primarily used as a slur by misogynists and supports sexism and objectification. Vaginas are are powerful, beautiful, nurturing and honest.

moriah

(8,311 posts)
11. That's what she meant. In other words, she was going the "reclaiming" route.
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:46 PM
May 2018

I don't object to hearing it in the context of visiting women's collectives where they're discussing books titled that about getting past the shame given by millennia of men afraid of that organ and its functions to embrace the power of being the gateway of life.

Or (that much) on Game of Thrones, because it's usually a guy calling another guy that, or in one memorable scene, a woman calling a guy that. Maybe I skipped over any scenes of the reverse where it wasn't obvious that the male using the word to a woman in a derogatory fashion is Not To Be Emulated. I think they did have Arya use it against the Waif, but to be fair Arya'd had too much time with the Hound. And the Waif did end up trying to kill her.

Outside of a show filmed and apparently at least partially written in a country that doesn't have the same connotation of the word here, and obviously feminist without attacking other women in the process use....

If we have a word that literally still is the worst thing you can call a woman, that reflects on her womanhood in general by its derivation, and is one that dehumanizes her to being merely her anatomy, there may be times when one's emotional reaction to heinous things women, particularly mothers to very much already born and home from the hospital and onwards children, do makes them think of that word.

Even me. I really don't want to go into details about why that's the only word that summarizes my opinion of a certain female I'm acquainted with, but the reasons my emotions are so strong that's where my mind goes are because her actions have harmed her daughter psychologically so much that I want to kill the woman. "Bastard" used to be probably the closest equivalent "worst word to call a man", but there's no universal "worst word to call a human being". And sometimes, there are people who trigger us that much to wish there was.

MountCleaners

(1,148 posts)
15. British guys use it all of the time
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:06 PM
May 2018

As a woman, it doesn't bother me. It depends on who is saying the word, and why.

Marcuse

(7,561 posts)
34. Mysogynstic men think treating men as they do women is the greatest insult.
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:21 PM
May 2018

Bitch, Pussy, F*** You. Suck my d*** et cetera.

Raine

(30,541 posts)
35. Agree
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:26 PM
May 2018

I wish that women in the public eye would quit using racist and sexist slurs against other women (no matter who that woman happens to be or whose side they're on) it just perpetuates that kind of ugly thinking and language.

ProfessorGAC

(65,381 posts)
6. Funny Stuff
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:23 PM
May 2018

I was never a fan. Her acting always seemed stiff to me, but what a great response to this "controversy".

Stuart G

(38,458 posts)
8. When you think you have seen every possible turn......
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:30 PM
May 2018

There is a turn, view, a take, a comment, an image, or whatever..?????????????

,,,,,you never ever expected....and today....Sally Field....filled the bill, and executed the perfect ad on..
..................to this show...that does not seem to end, think about it.....

........................arguing about ..C*nts..on the internet????? you got to be kidding...???


.......... .......... .......... ...........

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
32. People are calling for Bee's show
Thu May 31, 2018, 07:00 PM
May 2018

to be cancelled "They cancelled Roseanne's show" Bee insulted ONE tRump member Barr insulted an entire race of people. Get real. Ivanka should go home and raise her kids, instead of travelling worldwide to get patents for her (stolen) merchandise. Representing her father when she is as unqualified as he is for the job.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
13. Sally Field is my personal hero today!
Thu May 31, 2018, 04:53 PM
May 2018

Last edited Fri Jun 1, 2018, 07:20 AM - Edit history (1)

Not a fan of that word....however when used in the correct context, it works!

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
43. Because it isn't the point.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:56 AM
Jun 2018

We all know who we're talking about. And I, for one, am tired of being so hard on people for small, harmless mistakes.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
46. So it is ok if someone spells your name wrong?
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 03:00 AM
Jun 2018

Bullshit. I guess i just get tired of duers pretending to be the smartest people in the room, but they cannot get a well known star’s name right.

TNNurse

(6,931 posts)
18. Not really a fan of that word, but also never heard it used quite like that.
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:18 PM
May 2018

It does give a different perspective.

There is nothing that is too low or too offensive to describe Trump, his family and his administration.

keithbvadu2

(37,040 posts)
21. Ask Ivanka what she thinks of Daddy calling her a 'piece of ass'.
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:31 PM
May 2018

Ask Ivanka what she thinks of Daddy calling her a 'piece of ass'.
.

kag

(4,079 posts)
22. "You like me! You really like me!"
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:33 PM
May 2018

Yes, we do, Sally. Even more now.

And I agree with the previous comment that this is a strong woman helping to "reclaim" the word by pointing out the true attributes of the organ to which it refers.

Well done, Ms. Field!

 

DoctorJoJo

(1,134 posts)
23. Faux Outrage By Trump Pretty Amazing, Considering ...
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:38 PM
May 2018

... he once called teen Ivanka "a fine piece of ass" on the Howard Stern radio show.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. Many words are made "bad", not by their definition,
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:48 PM
May 2018

but by the derogatory way they are used. C*nt is from Latin cunnus, meaning vulva.
As ni**er is from the Spanish word for black, negro.

mulsh

(2,959 posts)
27. Once again Ms. Field sucinctly assesses the situation. I like this as much as when she reminded us
Thu May 31, 2018, 05:55 PM
May 2018

that Hillary Clinton was campaigning to be president not our best friend.

forgotmylogin

(7,539 posts)
44. Not at all, ironically!
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 01:57 AM
Jun 2018

Interesting how calling a male (or a female, for that matter) a "dick" doesn't carry the same stigma.

I'm not advocating the c-word as a derogatory term, but I find it amusing that calling someone a dick implies they are bothersome, invasive, unpleasant, but the term as a putdown generally doesn't carry the stigma that dropping a c-bomb does.

There is no "third-rail" term for male anatomy. "Bitch" has been in some respects taken back and owned by women with a potentially positive connotation similar to "nasty woman" - a person who gets what they want regardless of other feelings (which is wackily an admired male trait) though applied to man can imply derogatory ownership. "Pussy" even isn't quite so strong - generally being used to imply "coward" or "doormat" for either gender, possibly conflating both the "receptive" and "feline" inferences. The closest equivalent with the same baggage is the n-word.

Being compared to a penis isn't as shameful as being compared to a vagina and it shows how hung up the US is about female sexuality. Other countries don't put the same shameful connotation on the word "cunt" and use it in a similar nongendered fashion similar to "dick" or "bitch".

Response to kpete (Original post)

Response to Labiglabocce (Reply #47)

The Mouth

(3,169 posts)
60. If a word is wrong to use, it's wrong to use.
Fri Jun 1, 2018, 03:35 PM
Jun 2018

By anyone.

If someone thinks gender, race, political affiliation or religion are contexts that make it OK for one person and not for another, they are part of the problem.

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