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The Dems exceeded by 6-12% their primary turnout in California as compared to 2016 in almost all districts.
They weren't shutout in ANY district from getting on the ballot.
44% of the women candidates that ran won.
"Establishment" candidates kicked ass.... Bernie-backed candidates performed poorly.
America wants a sane center-left opposition party to take on Trump.
And today... we see the generic ballot back up to +7 for Dems according to Quinnipiac.
Blue Wave is still rolling...
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)Stargleamer
(2,728 posts)Shut the republicans out in 8 or more other districts, so perhaps overall it was good
George II
(67,782 posts)...a few hundred votes apart.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)Could you please explain your running sock to me ? Thank you.
pazzyanne
(6,760 posts)rpannier
(24,927 posts)It's Cook (R) and Donnelly (R)
Doyle may or may not choose to challenge it
But, the SoS has it two Republikkans
RandySF
(84,328 posts)dbackjon
(6,578 posts)lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)but only about my congressional district... CA-10
Representative Jeff Denham is seeking a fourth term in Californias 10th District, an area of the Central Valley centered on Modesto, and three Democrats are vying to challenge him: Michael Eggman, a farmer who has run against Mr. Denham twice before; Josh Harder, a venture capitalist; and Virginia Madueño, a public relations executive. The race was close in 2016, and Hillary Clinton won the district, making it a target for Democrats this year.
CANDIDATE PARTY VOTE PCT.
Jeff Denham* Republican 24,640 37.7%
Josh Harder Democrat 10,244 15.7
Ted Howze Republican 9,394 14.4
Others 21,064 32.2
65,342 votes, 100% reporting (477 of 477 precincts)
Harder has not yet been certified to come in second. If Howze makes up the difference... I will not have a Democrat to vote for come November.
deurbano
(2,986 posts)Geez, our SF mayoral race might not be decided for another two weeks. I hope i don't have to keep worrying about Modesto, too! (Of course, in SF the mayor will be a Democrat, no matter what... so not really the same issue.)
I posted this on another thread:
<<My MIL used to be very involved in the Democratic party in Modesto, so she is not the typical, under-informed voter. Yet, when she came to see our younger daughter perform in a dance recital in SF last Saturday, she had already mailed in her ballot with a vote for a Democratic candidate who had no chance of coming in first or second in CA 10. She wanted Denham (R) out, but wasn't thinking through the prioritizing needed to make that happen, and just thought anti-Denham sentiment would ensure one of the Dems would make it into the top two. She was enthusiastic about her choice and had even attended a house party for the candidate, and that enthusiasm and participation should be encouraged... but within the constraints of a normal primary. >>
i think there were three other Dems on the ballot in addition to the three you mentioned, and my MIL's choice was one of those other three. I really hate the "nonpartisan" primary.
lapfog_1
(31,904 posts)the second place finisher is TDB.
deurbano
(2,986 posts)still_one
(98,883 posts)President. Add that to the fact that we have a semi-open primary, where non-Democrats are allowed to help decide who should be the Democratic nominee, and as far as I am concerned if not this time, it will eventually bite us
Unfortunately, I doubt it will ever get rolled back by a proposition. The NPP voters like it the way it is
Greybnk48
(10,724 posts)into a coma. When I thought the next sentence out of Williams' mouth was going to be "Democrats are known for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory," I shut off the T.V. and came to DU to see what was what in CA and elsewhere.
George II
(67,782 posts)....what's with all the phony exaggerated hand gestures? Really? And he probably spends a half hour every morning arranging those rolled up sleeves of his, and IRON those freaking khakis he wears!!!
Brian Williams? Well he just puts me to sleep. If ever I'm suffering from insomnia I just pop in a DVD of one of his shows, I'm asleep within minutes.
kag
(4,197 posts)His hand gestures don't bother me at all. What I love about him is his freakishly detailed knowledge of whatever election he happens to be talking about. And it's not just that he studies it (of course he does) but he understands the nuances of why things happen the way they do.
I will watch any show on MSNBC (even Tweety) when Steve is at the "big board".
Power 2 the People
(2,437 posts)It's good to see someone with genuine enthusiasm when covering electoral politics.
redstateblues
(10,565 posts)There have been several primaries that he hyped all week that turned out to be not even close. This week he touted that it could be a disaster for Democrats. It wasnt. Im tired of his act
Rhiannon12866
(255,595 posts)During any election night, he's the guy you want to weigh in on how things are shaping up!
calimary
(90,039 posts)Just refused. All day Monday they were busy building coffins for the Blue Wave and all things Democratic. I'd had enough.
Kornacki makes me crazy. GOD does he need to switch to decaf! That desperate panting horserace crap is just that: CRAP. Yeah, I know, the bosses think it makes for drama, edge-of-yer-seat entertainment, would-be cliff-hangers, excitement, and more. I think it makes for excess stomach acid, sleeplessness, discouragement, and depression. And I don't care to play, thankyouverymuch.
Thank you, DU. I got all the news I needed from here.
Cha
(319,089 posts)in quotes.
Yes, the Brilliant Dems Kicked Ass!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)The GOP and Americas enemies (mostly enemies of Western democracy) want us to lose hope. So one of their propaganda approaches is to incite despair.
Dont give in. Stay positive. We are going to win. Keep working.
4now
(1,598 posts)c-rational
(3,203 posts)calimary
(90,039 posts)They're counting on us getting discouraged and staying home, huddled in our corners and sucking our thumbs - and certainly not getting out there and voting and being counted. Not gonna play. And DEFINITELY not gonna give up early and throw the game.
Indivisible groups in your area are HIGHLY recommended.
4now
(1,598 posts)this time.
I hope we learned something.
Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)so badly and I knew how important California was and all those Dems running made it too close for my comfort...so glad it ended well. Californians who understand the process better were not worried so that made me feel somewhat better.
Stargleamer
(2,728 posts)remember, that in California on election night, things typically can often look really bad at first because conservative votes tend to be counted first, but then as the night wears on, things start looking better and better. It has been that way in California for years now. I remember sweating out parental notification initiatives until 2 or 3 o'clock in the morning, until at last the "no" vote overtook the "yes" vote for good.
tiredtoo
(2,949 posts)How about we enjoy our victories rather than posting divisive stuff.
"Bernie-backed candidates performed poorly."
First of all it is not accurate. Just a couple of weeks ago, the narrative was the opposite, in fact.
These momentum-related things have an ebb and flow to them. Extrapolating "America wants ... " is fraught with poor analysis and logic. There will be time for gloating later (but gloating over one side of the Democratic Caucus is still the wrong way to go into November).
Secondly there's a rule in this forum about supporting Democrats, not just certain ones to the OP's approval (irrespective of backing, criticizing Democrats in open or closed primaries, before or after the primary election, appears to violate that rule).
And third, most obviously ... perpetuating divisiveness is unhealthy overall for the Democratic Party. If the OP want to "let the healing begin", this is a lousy way to foster that.
But then that may not have been the OP's premise.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,689 posts)Demsrule86
(71,542 posts)None of these entities folks are Democrats thus, maybe the should just stop.
https://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/story/news/2018/06/06/analysis-how-did-bernie-sanders-democrats-do-primaries/676864002/
calimary
(90,039 posts)Not sure what their game is, but it's certainly not about uniting and conquering.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)For a long time I have defended the "jungle primary" and tried to explain it to people who are hostile to it.
In all fairness I think that some folks at DU are trying to understand how it would work in their area where it probably would not be a good idea.
It has worked very well in California but it does require that both Democratic candidates and voters need to be disciplined so that we don't have an "owned goal" in the future.
It is ironic that the only way that we could get blocked out in a competitive district is that we have TOO MANY WELL QUALIFIED CANDIDATES RUNNING AT THE SAME TIME, something that the Republicans will never have to worry about.
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)With two in every race, there is possibility of shutting out GOPers, and it maximizes the vote share for the two Dems.
If there are more than three...then the potential to get shut out grows.
The state party needs to strongly back 2 candidates in each race, and strongly encourage all others to drop out.
still_one
(98,883 posts)Governor, and the same for Senate, is confusing and ridiculous, and add the open primary where non-Democrats can help choose the Democratic nominee, it isn't a good thing.
ProudProgressiveNow
(6,189 posts)tavernier
(14,443 posts)Democrats probably didnt do as well as they expected
My thoughts... Poop on you.
And we did.
brooklynite
(96,882 posts)...that it took $28 Million to win those second place slots, two of which came in by 3% or less; that cash could have completely funded 10 other House races.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Overall, though, I think the potential negatives outweigh the potential positives and I'd rather we did away with our top-2 system.
Just because CA-8 was the only district in which we got shut out this time around doesn't mean disaster couldn't strike in the future. And in those districts where the top 2 were Dems, a Dem would win those districts regardless.
Someone suggested in an earlier thread that this system was brought about by the CA Democratic Party. It wasn't. It was the brainchild of a group led by Schwarzenegger.
echler
(10 posts)Sorry, couldn't resist!
RandySF
(84,328 posts)The anchor tried to push Harry Enten into saying it was a bad night for Dems and he never took the bait.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Dems finished 3rd, 4th and 5th in that race. The Dem who finished 3rd would have undoubtedly come in 2nd had there not been 2 other Dems competing. Apparently those who finished a distant 4th and 5th, respectively, determined they were more important than the party and the nation as a whole.
rpannier
(24,927 posts)But, the difference is 800 votes, so Doyle may challenge it
It's an incredibly red district from everything I've read. And last night's totals put the total vote at 64.1% for the combined republikkans
Interesting bit of trivia about Mr Cook's seat. He was elected in 2013. His district was obviously realigned, as the previous Representative (according to Wikipedia) was Nancy Pelosi
Magoo48
(6,721 posts)find an identity which can see a clear way forward.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/01/21/schumer_calls_trump_dysfunctional_president_on_senate_floor.html
https://www.msnbc.com/david-gura/watch/rep-maxine-waters-trump-is-most-deplorable-human-being-that-i-ve-ever-encountered-in-my-life-1211471427942
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/democrats-propose-funding-teacher-pay-raises-by-canceling-tax-cuts-for-the-wealthy
Cha
(319,089 posts)are stuck on that supposedly insult word "establishment".
I told him that they were Winning and helping to take back our Democracy.
And, asked what the Losers were doing for us?
Cha
(319,089 posts)our Democracy.
Remind us what the Losers are doing for us?
Gothmog
(179,871 posts)niyad
(132,446 posts)ucrdem
(15,720 posts)
p.s.
oasis
(53,695 posts)GetRidOfThem
(869 posts)You know, in the middle of the ocean a tsunami is barely noticeable. But when it hits shore, it builds and builds and builds....
And before it hits, all the water retreats, and you can see all of the little critters that live on the bottom of the sea....
Cary
(11,746 posts)Of course concern trolls still troll.