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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsToday, once again, I make fun of the "small, incremental steps" approach to saving our civilization.
Or, actually, mother nature does.
How's the war on global warming doing? In which direction are we making small, incremental steps? Anyone wanna hazard a guess?
We need major, sudden, drastic changes. NOW.
Or Mother Nature will make them for us.
Time to choose.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)that once all the people are gone mother earth will restore herself to her natural bueaty. too bad we won't be around to see it.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)We need some drastic changes...
Germany has done it by making a large scale switch to solar energy. This is the kind of drastic change we need. Electric cars, strict pollution controls, it has to happen now.
While Republican and DLC-fan naysayers are saying it's impractical or too costly, we're being shown a clear preview of the price we'll pay if we don't.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)energy-consumption wise.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)sendero
(28,552 posts).... since internal combustion engines are about 20% efficient and electric motors more than 80%. Even with transmission and other losses that is a hard deficit to overcome.
Now if you are talking cost wise, well that would be different. We still need cheaper batteries and I have no doubt they will be developed.
I don't think that electric vehicles are going to "save the world" but I think internal combustion engines are in the process of singing their swan song.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)That's when I started noticing things getting all bizzaro-world here in Fargo. That winter we did not have any snow until the middle of January. The came a cool, humid, and extremely wet summer. Then came 3 years of flooding in a row, and now this drought.
Something in the climate system lost a screw in 2006.
cali
(114,904 posts)And our civilization is already done for. And you offer nothing in the way of a plan. In any case, it's too late.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Really, you keep making this same mistake. Over and over again.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)(well, i am anyways)
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)This isn't about me, and you will not show where it is. So that argument is dead.
And... melodrama? Go tell that to the corn farmers in Missouri, or the people who got hit by TWO derechos this year, or the scientists who are watching global warming trends.
So now I'm laughing at the way your illogical "points" just exploded in your hands.
dionysus
(26,467 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)XemaSab
(60,212 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)it's a bunch of vague garbage.
and you keep posting the same self-important crapola over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and on and on.
Zalatix
(8,994 posts)My a plan, and it's a viable plan. I MENTIONED SPECIFICS. Germany has already executed some of it. Your arguments are a bunch of vapid garbage. It is garbage now, and it was garbage the last time you posted, it, and the time before, and the time before that.
Every time you show up, you offer no solutions of your own, none whatsoever.
So yeah, I am going to keep doing this, I am going to keep showing that you have no solutions.
Once again, my specific plans:
A large scale switch to solar energy. DONE, by Germany.
Electric cars: ALREADY INVENTED.
Strict pollution controls: ALREADY HAPPENING in America.
What do you have, except "nay nay nay nay nay nay nay nay nay nay"?
sendero
(28,552 posts)... of the "small incremental steps" approach to saving our economy. 4 years and nothing. And we are not remotely out of the woods yet, the bottom could fall out any day.
Just like global warming, nothing of substance will be done until it's really too late. I have believed for a couple of years now that worrying about climate change is pointless, it is already too late to stop it.
woo me with science
(32,139 posts)We are not even making incremental steps. We are being played like fools.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)She just follows laws.