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malaise

(269,157 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:07 PM Jun 2018

The Guardian view on Trump and the G7 summit: a watershed moment

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/10/the-guardian-view-on-trump-and-the-g7-summit-a-watershed-moment
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The failure of the G7 meeting in Charlevoix, Quebec, marks a watershed for the 21st-century democracies. It is the moment when Donald Trump’s disruption of the international order moved from annoying threat to damaging reality. Mr Trump went to Quebec only under protest. He made no effort to compromise on his tariff war. He arrived late for meetings, chided the other leaders and left early. He snubbed the final communique. He tweeted insults to his Canadian hosts from his plane as he headed off. By the time his North Korean summit ends later this week, Mr Trump may be on chummier terms with another authoritarian dictator than with America’s democratic allies.

The immediate upshot is bad enough. The US refused to sign a G7 communique that was too weak, especially on climate change, but that should have been supported. Mr Trump’s steel and aluminium tariffs were the flashpoint; but the G7 countries actually have much in common on trade, not least on forced technology transfers to China. The communique also challenged Russia’s destabilisation tactics, said Iran’s nuclear programme must remain wholly peaceful and contained declarations on gender equality and fair tax regimes. Mr Trump has not signed off on these either. But the longer-term damage of this division could be even worse.

Some will argue that this was merely another bout of Trumpian theatrics, inseparable from his boundless narcissism and essential for fuelling his supporters’ anger in election year, and that the underlying substance of the US’s relationship with its fellow liberal democracies remains resilient enough to survive. This has been the default position of most of America’s allies ever since Mr Trump became president. They are doing their self-sacrificing best to keep him in check in the hope that he will be a passing phenomenon. This view should not be dismissed. But it has become too naive.

The truth may now be more serious. The US is the cornerstone of the post-1945 international order. If Mr Trump wishes to remove that cornerstone everything else is threatened. That has not yet happened. The thankless task of doing what can be done to mitigate Trumpian disruption must continue. But a fissure is growing. And it got wider in Quebec.

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The Guardian view on Trump and the G7 summit: a watershed moment (Original Post) malaise Jun 2018 OP
Great article, my dear malaise! There is much horrifying truth, esp. here: CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #1
He is a raving lunatic who must be stopped malaise Jun 2018 #2
Damn right! CaliforniaPeggy Jun 2018 #3
We are at a dangerous crossroad domestically and internationally. suffragette Jun 2018 #4
Credit where it's due Fritz Walter Jun 2018 #5
Where my shock comes in is seeing how easy it was mountain grammy Jun 2018 #11
Are these aluminum tarriffs designed to help Russia , duforsure Jun 2018 #6
Without the US the other G7 nations lack as much clout to make the system work pangaia Jun 2018 #7
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2018 #8
This brings it into focus. Real damage is being done. He is, in fact, a Russian agent. Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #9
Trumpy hasn't registered as a foreign agent. Eyeball_Kid Jun 2018 #14
Another unsettling thing................. MyOwnPeace Jun 2018 #17
I know. I can't wait for Judgment Day on all the traitors. J-Day being history & documentaries Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #18
K&R... spanone Jun 2018 #10
K & R mountain grammy Jun 2018 #12
K&R smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #13
Trump is a threat to our national security orangecrush Jun 2018 #15
Actually he's a threat to the entire planet malaise Jun 2018 #16

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,694 posts)
1. Great article, my dear malaise! There is much horrifying truth, esp. here:
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jun 2018
This view should not be dismissed. But it has become too naive.

He is an enormous force for radical destabilization.



Fritz Walter

(4,292 posts)
5. Credit where it's due
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 05:15 PM
Jun 2018

What we’re seeing here is execution of Putin’s plan to destabilize the world economy in general — and our national economy in particular.

He’s lashing out — through his stooge, cadet bone spurs — after Russia was rightly removed from the G8 after annexing Crimea.

Everyone else has to deal with the consequences of this vindictive behavior. Regardless of the costs.

mountain grammy

(26,647 posts)
11. Where my shock comes in is seeing how easy it was
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jun 2018

to get millions of Americans to see Putin as some kind of hero.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
6. Are these aluminum tarriffs designed to help Russia ,
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 05:16 PM
Jun 2018

especially the russian billionaire close to putin? Will trump bar Canadian tar sands oil from being pipelined through this country next to hurt Canada , and help russia and putin?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
7. Without the US the other G7 nations lack as much clout to make the system work
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 05:23 PM
Jun 2018
Without the US the other G7 nations lack as much clout to make the system work. The EU remains feeble. But the rest of the G7 must try. If not, Europe, Canada and Japan risk becoming standing invitations to humiliation by Russian disruption, Chinese strategic authoritarianism and Trumpian nativism. This puts the liberal value system of democracy, peace, trade, liberty and the rule of law at risk. It threatens the ability of the liberal democracies to stand up to threats. Not for the first time.


Putin's end game..


WHEN will media stop beating around thew bush,, EVEN as close as THE GUARDIAN GETS.... much better than most.


Thanks Malaise.



Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
9. This brings it into focus. Real damage is being done. He is, in fact, a Russian agent.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 05:53 PM
Jun 2018

There is no other explanation. It's as if Putin is walking in his shoes.

MyOwnPeace

(16,937 posts)
17. Another unsettling thing.................
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:26 PM
Jun 2018

the Republican morons in DC are NOT doing a damned thing about it - they are treasonous - allowing our country to be sold out to an enemy country and betraying our dearest and most valuable allies.

AWAY WITH THEM ALL!!!!! : grr:

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
18. I know. I can't wait for Judgment Day on all the traitors. J-Day being history & documentaries
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 06:58 PM
Jun 2018

and movies. This is unbelievable. I saw an inkling of this, just an inkling, during the Bush administration, when they so willingly went along with the Patriot Act...the Republicans who are so "Freedom!" and government conspiracy oriented. But they so willingly jumped off the bridge for being surveilled by the govt without court approval, before or after.

So we are here, now. Willingly going along with pushing what Putin wants, and damaging decades old relationships with our closest allies, including the two we share borders with! The damage, the damage.

spanone

(135,870 posts)
10. K&R...
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 05:59 PM
Jun 2018

'moved from annoying threat to damaging reality'

people don't like to be bullied.

trump is a bully.

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