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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 07:19 PM Jun 2018

Don't have a cow, Trump! Wisconsin produces more milk than all of Canada! What difference

would it make to American milk prices and American dairy farms and jobs if Canadian milk "flooded" America...nada!

But if American milk entered Canada it would be a flood, farmers would be decimated. If aluminum is a national security issue, then so is milk and cheese. Canada must protect it's milk production for national security!

Also, the American milk production is already in massive oversupply, even with massive amounts of diafiltered milk not subject to tariffs being imported by Canada to make cheese.

"Major diafiltered milk production plants have been built in recent years along the Canada-U.S. border in states like New York and Wisconsin to service Canadian demand. Because of an ongoing oversupply of milk – and its ingredients – within the United States, the American dairy industry has been exporting the product in liquid form to Canadian processors. The Canadian Border Services Agency considers it to be a protein ingredient and therefore it is not subject to Canada’s high dairy tariffs."

In March, 2018 Canada moved to change this loophole. Enter angry wealthy major milk factory producers and you get mad Trump.

Not about farmers, it is about protecting millionaires.

Besides, will Americans get rid of their growth hormones banned in Canada?

Canadians have no problem with supply-side management and safer milk and fairly compensated family farms and will pay higher prices.

Producers are compensated fairly for their products and many dairy farms in Canada still are family farms (Producer)
Farmers’ margins and returns are predictable as dairy prices remain stable without fluctuation in the market (Producer)
Higher quality milk with less hormones and additives (Consumer)
Disadvantages:


Difficult for new entrants into the market (Producer)
Increased consumer prices due to supply quotas (Consumer)


Yes, the actual milk in Canada is different from the milk in the US, as Canada has stricter regulations on the use of hormones and additives.

"For example, rBST, a growth hormone for dairy cows to stimulate milk production, is not allowed in milk in Canada, but it has been used in the US. Also any cows that are administered antibiotics have their milk discarded until there is no longer than trace of antibiotics in the milk. All milk is tested for antibiotic residues and if there is any milk that tests positive for antibiotics, the product is not sold to the public and the farmer responsible for the contaminated milk is fined and has to cover all expenses of the discarded shipment. (In poultry and pork within Canada, antibiotics can be used, but there are no growth hormones administered. However, both are administered to Canadian beef cattle just as they are with US beef cattle.)

The US also does test for antibiotics, but the FDA allows for “safe levels”. Recently there has been controversy in that the tests for antibiotics are only testing for traditional antibiotics, like penicillin, but there are several new antibiotics that are not covered in the test that farmers are now administering to their cattle. Although Canada is ahead of the US in banning these hormones and antibiotics in milk, they are still behind Europe, where some EU countries like Denmark and Sweden ban all growth hormones and antibiotics from all human food."

Anyway, long article, but great explanation...in short, Trump lies.

Edit: links - https://americanadiangal.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/canadian-milk-expensive-but-more-safe/

https://ipolitics.ca/2017/04/22/dairy-101-the-canada-u-s-milk-spat-explained/

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Don't have a cow, Trump! Wisconsin produces more milk than all of Canada! What difference (Original Post) Fred Sanders Jun 2018 OP
Who wants our toxic milk anyway. C_U_L8R Jun 2018 #1
I don't get it - KT2000 Jun 2018 #2
Thank you for explaining. Delmette2.0 Jun 2018 #3

KT2000

(20,577 posts)
2. I don't get it -
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 08:29 PM
Jun 2018

the US has price supports for dairy as it is.
Why do millionaires want to make people sick and kill them? Like Astra-Zeneca that makes pesticides, they also buy up cancer pharmaceutical firms.

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