With the election of the new president the SBC is now totally controlled by Calvinists.

[bobbieinok]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the General Discussion forum).

The most shocking aspect ot this to me is that the so-called 'New Calvinists' led by Al Mohler, the prez of the flagship SBC seminary in Louisville and the 'pope' of the SBC, teach 'Limited Atonement', the concept that contrary to John3:16, Jesus did not die for everyone but only for those who have already been chosen by god to be saved. It therefore does not matter if a person accepts 'Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior' and prays the Sinner's Prayer; if god did not choose to save that person before the origin of the universe --- then that person is just out of luck. So why evangelize, send missionaries, --- it makes no difference. It's just a big con game (for money and power?? You can't help wondering.)

From what I have read in the posts and comments at the blog thewartburgwatch.com and elsewhere, most of the people in the many, many SBC churches are unaware that this takeover has been carried out for years. All the heads of the SBC seminaries and boards are New Calvinists. And now the convention president is openly a New Calvinist. (The president and his associates choose the people in all positions of power within the convention.)

[brooklynite]

1. So, you're saying I can act anyway I want?

God's already decided so it won't make any difference?

[bobbieinok]

2. Sorta seems like that to me. I find it VERY unlike what I heard in SBC churches in 40s, 50s

I think they have some super serious theological reason why that doesn't work.

I believe the MA colonists were Calvinists. From what I remember from history, in that group if you didn't act totally and completely upright, you proved you were not of the elect, not chosen by god. So you constantly had to care how your actions and demeanor were viewed by other people.

I think people knew if you had been chosen if you were successful in your family, business, financial life. Poor people were clearly NOT chosen by god.

Seems like some of these ideas play a large role in contemporary political views (see GOP!).

[Drahthaardogs]

3. Christianity ends where Calvinism begins

What they teach is very different from Catholic, Orthodox, and most other Protestants

[muriel_volestrangler]

4. Locking - since this is a religious discussion, it should be in the Religion group

Please repost there. Thanks.